Colorado Gets Pac 10 invite.

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All the chips are falling. I am glad to see the Big 12 is crumbling and not the Big East (fingers crossed).

It is time to be proactive though. We need to be aggressive.

Break away from basketball schools and go get Kansas, K-State, Baylor and Iowa State.

Kansas and K-State would do it in a heart beat because they want to keep basketball going and dont want to be playing in the MWC. The question would be if Pitt, Rutgers and Syracuse would gaurentee that they are staying.

Do it quick though. Don't let the MWC beat us to it. Dont let the ACC raid us.
 
The Big East has to be proactive, if they wait around too much the Big East will get eaten up by the SEC, B11, and ACC and it will be a basketball only conference.
 
The dominoes are falling. I think by the end of all of this, UC will either be Big East or ACC and it will depend on what the Big 11 and SEC do. Unfortunately, there is really no way for the Big East to prevent anything at this point. Just have to roll with the punches.
 
The exodus west by half of the Big 12 has started.

Colorado is the first to commit to the Pac-10, but the Buffs won't be the last.
"This is an historic moment for the Conference, as the Pac-10 is poised for tremendous growth," Pac-10 commissioner Larry Scott said in a statement. "The University of Colorado is a great fit for the Conference both academically and athletically and we are incredibly excited to welcome Colorado to the Pac-10."

"On behalf of The University of Colorado students, faculty, alumni and fans, we are proud to accept this invitation from the Pac-10 and join the most prestigious academic and athletic conference in the nation," said Philip P. DiStefano, chancellor of CU-Boulder.

"The University of Colorado is a perfect match - academically and athletically - with the Pac-10," said University of Colorado President Bruce D. Benson. "Our achievements and aspirations match those of the universities in the conference and we look forward to a productive relationship."

A formal press conference was scheduled for Friday at Folsom Field in Boulder, Colo.

Sources tell Orangebloods.com, the Pac-16 conference would commence in 2012.


TEXAS, TEXAS A&M MEET

Also on Thursday, Texas and Texas A&M were meeting alone together in the morning, according to sources, before also having a meeting in the afternoon with Texas Tech and Baylor officials.

If Texas and Texas A&M are on the same page in their meeting about going to the Pac-10, then the second meeting - with Texas Tech and Baylor - could be the courtesy notifation to BU officials that the other Texas schools in the Big 12 South are moving on.

Sources close to Texas, Texas A&M and Texas Tech told Orangebloods.com throughout the last week that if Nebraska moved on to the Big Ten, the Big 12 was dead.

And that's what Texas president Bill Powers and Texas athletic director DeLoss Dodds told UT coaches in a meeting Wednesday afternoon.

If Texas and Texas A&M emerge from Thursday's meeting united, there could be announcements almost immediately that Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech, Oklahoma and Oklahoma State are heading west.


PAC-16 TO GET 2 BCS BIDS?

In a related development, sources close to the Pac-10/Big 12 merger say the new, 16-team super conference could push for two BCS bids with the Big 12 dissolving and losing theirs.

In that case, you could have a BCS bid for the Western Division winner among USC, UCLA, Cal, Stanford, Oregon, Oregon State, Washington and Washington State.

As well as a BCS bid for the Eastern Division winner among Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, Colorado, Arizona and Arizona State.

That will be met with resistance from the other BCS conferences as they try to expand and could lead to the formula of each division winner in one of the newly formed super conferences receiving a bid into an 8-team playoff.

There will need to be some representation of the non-BCS schools or legal wrangling and government hearings will overwhelm the process.

But as Orangebloods.com laid out over the weekend, there are athletic directors involved in this whole process who see this coming.


DOOR CLOSING ON BAYLOR

Baylor officials were hoping beyond hope that some 11th-hour change would happen to either save the Big 12 or allow them to get on the train out west.

But one Baylor official told Orangebloods.com, "It's probably 90 percent sure the other Texas schools are gone, but we have to hold onto that 10 percent that something could change."

Orangebloods.com was the first to report Wednesday that Baylor, which has strong ties to the Baptist church, was being met with some resistance in the Pac-10, namely Cal-Berkeley, because of its religious affiliation.

Baylor loyalists, in their argument against Colorado being invited, have pointed out that Colorado's academic and athletic performance lately hasn't been anything the Pac-10 should embrace.

In an announcement Wednesday by the NCAA, Colorado was the only school in the BCS to have scholarship reductions in football for poor Academic Progress Rates. And CU was one of two schools in the BCS to have scholarship reductions in basketball.

There's talk that some Pac-10 schools are down on Colorado's academics and overall sports programs, but sources say Pac-10 commissioner Larry Scott wants the Denver market.

Denver has never been a college TV market, much less a Colorado Buffaloes TV market. It's all about the Broncos and pro sports.

But the thought is if you pair Colorado in games against Texas, Oklahoma and USC, the Denver market will tune in.


A&M LAST PIECE OF PAC-10 PUZZLE

The only potential stumbling point for the six Big 12 schools to move west was if Texas A&M's heart was in it.

The Aggies have been talking to the Southeastern Conference. Gene Stallings, who won a national title as coach at Alabama, is a regent at Texas A&M who has been VERY active in all the talks involving the Aggies and where they could land if the Big 12 fell apart.

Orangebloods.com has been told by sources that Gov. Rick Perry would encourage his alma mater to go where Texas goes to keep harmony in the Texas Legislature.

There is a state-run, multi-billion dollar mineral rights endowment for both Texas and Texas A&M called the Permanent University Fund, which was threatened by lawmakers the last time realignment happened (when the Big 12 was formed) if the two schools split up.

One thing that should be reassuring to Texas A&M is that in a move to the Pac-10 Texas all but loses its chance to start its own TV network.

That was a point of contention for A&M, which has an athletic department $16 million in debt and had to borrow that money from the school's general fund to pay it off.

That became a big rift at A&M between the administration and athletics department and may have contributed to the forced resignation of A&M president Elsa Murano, who wanted the athletic department to be more diligent in paying the loan back.

A&M was not excited about having Texas, with $125 million in revenue and its coffers overflowing, starting a TV network and adding yet another revenue stream that A&M couldn't match.

But with all schools on an equal revenue playing field in the Pac-16 (or whatever we're going to call this league), A&M's worries probably subside.

Stay tuned.

http://www.texas.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1093010
 
The state govt of Texas will not put up with any deal that does not involve Texas moving without TAMU. Dallas paper was reporting that the Governor is involved and he's an Aggie.
 
I'm somewhat suprised that it was Colorado chosen as the 6th school, really thought all the Texas school's would stick together.
 
Colorado fits in with the Pac-10 schools. Texas A&M and Baylor does not. Stanford, Cal, Oregon or some of the most politically liberal schools in the country. Texas A&M is one of the most conservative. The folks at Stanford and Cal have kicked ROTC off their campuses. A&M is a huge ROTC school. Baylor's president is Ken Starr--- the same guy who prosecuted Bill Clinton. In the world of politics the Pac-10 is MSNBC and Rachel Maddow and A&M and Baylor is Fox News and Sean Hannity. They do not mix.
 
Colorado fits in with the Pac-10 schools. Texas A&M and Baylor does not. Stanford, Cal, Oregon or some of the most politically liberal schools in the country. Texas A&M is one of the most conservative. The folks at Stanford and Cal have kicked ROTC off their campuses. A&M is a huge ROTC school. Baylor's president is Ken Starr--- the same guy who prosecuted Bill Clinton. In the world of politics the Pac-10 is MSNBC and Rachel Maddow and A&M and Baylor is Fox News and Sean Hannity. They do not mix.

It comes down to more than this. The fact is Baylor is very much a baptist school and that doesn't fit with some Pac-10 schools. Throw in the Denver market for television purposes and this was a no brainer.
 
Texas could accept an invite to Pac10 next week. So much for Cincy to the Big12. If Nebraska and Texas are gone, even OK will be looking elsewhere.

Don't think that the Pac10 are stopping with Colorado, or even Texas. Neither will Big10. There's gonna be serious movement, and the Big East should try and grab OK and Kansas now.

Also, look for ND to give serious consideration in joining the Big10. It may not occur, but I don't see them joining the BE when the money and prestige is going to be in the Big10....which is going to cause the SEC to grab four from the ACC.
 
I dont think Notre Dame would go to the Big 10. Too much competition for them. They would look really really bad for years.

Nope. Big 10 wont happen.
 
I dont think Notre Dame would go to the Big 10. Too much competition for them. They would look really really bad for years.

Nope. Big 10 wont happen.

I agree. The only way ND goes to a conference is if they feel they will be left behind without a conference affiliation.
 
Good Article, it really respects UC, claiming the B12 may not be done.
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/...12-can-not-only-be-saved-but-made-even-better


Now that Nebraska has gone to the Big 10 and Colorado to the Pac-10, everyone is stating that it is a done deal that the Big 12 South sans Baylor (Oklahoma State, Texas Tech, Texas A&M, Oklahoma and Texas) will join the Buffaloes in their new conference.

There are problems with that, foremost being that there has never been the slightest indication of interest on the part of any of those five teams. This is in contrast to Nebraska, Missouri and Colorado clearly acknowledging that they wanted to leave the Big 12 for the Big 10 and Pac-10 for months.

So why do we assume that those schools A) want to leave and B) want to go to the Pac-10? Just because the Pac-10 offers a place in its conference, that doesn't mean that those schools will say yes.

There are real issues here.

Would Oklahoma State and Texas Tech ever be competitive or respected in the Pac-10? Texas A&M has made it known that if they plan to go to any other conference, it would be the SEC, not the Pac-10. (There is some idea that Texas politicians will force a package deal with Texas—more on that later.)

Texas was adamant about certain aspects as a part of the Big 12, like its desire to avoid revenue-sharing and not wanting to join the Big 12 in the creation of a TV network, choosing instead to create its own network. In the Pac-10, that isn't going to fly.

So why would Texas give up those things in order to join the Pac-10 when they wouldn't do so in order to keep the Big 12 together?

The idea that Texas politicians will keep Texas A&M and Texas together ... how would they pull that off if they can't get Baylor into the Pac-10? Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech and Baylor are a group of four; Pac-10 advocates are selling them as a group of three.

The Pac-10 can't dump Baylor on one hand and then insist that Texas, Texas A&M and Texas Tech have to be this package deal on the other. However, the Texas politicians CAN and WILL work to keep those schools together another way—by keeping them all in the same conference.

The idea that the Big 12 is not viable without Nebraska and Colorado isn't quite accurate.

Colorado hasn't been an athletics powerhouse in years and will likely never be again because the administration doesn't care. The Big 12 can replace Colorado with Utah and get the Salt Lake City market and a much better athletics program. (They can also add BYU in what would be an interesting contrast to the Pac-10's rejection of religious schools like BYU and Baylor. As a matter of fact, the Big 12 rivalry between the Mormons and Baptists would be something to see.)

As far as Nebraska goes, the Huskers are more name recognition and tradition than an actual property with value. There aren't very many TV screens in Nebraska, and now that they have abandoned the veer option their days as a national football power are over. They know that they can't compete with the Sun Belt schools in attracting speed.

So, Nebraska is going to go join similar plodding schools in Ohio State, Michigan, Penn State and Wisconsin.

Who can replace Nebraska? Well, how about a school that is A) in a rich recruiting market and B) can deal payback to the Big 10 by grabbing a school right from its turf? That's right, the Big 12 can add Cincinnati, and all those Ohio TV screens and recruits that would come with it (Cincinnati also has a decent academic reputation).

A Big 12 with Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech, Baylor, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, Kansas, Kansas State, Iowa State, Missouri, Utah and Cincinnati would not only be as good as the old Big 12, but BETTER.

Look, the Big 12 for the past decade hasn't been Colorado and Nebraska, it's been Texas and Oklahoma. Those two teams have all the Big 12 national titles in the BCS era and virtually all the BCS bowl game appearances and victories.

And if Missouri decides to go to the Big 10? Replace it with BYU.

Of course, if the Big 12 South sans Baylor won't go to the Pac-10, then the Pac-10 won't become the Pac-16 unless they add mid-major programs. Instead, the Pac-10 plus Colorado and whoever else joins it will still be USC and everybody else.

Instead, the Big 12 could become the Big 16. Replacing Nebraska and Colorado with Utah and Cincinnati keeps you at 12. Adding BYU gets you to 13. Going to 16 from there is a snap.

Cincinnati's rival Louisville gets you to 14, and it also gets you a good recruiting and TV market in SEC country. Southern Miss gets you to 15 while reaching further into SEC territory and adding decent TV and talent markets. Team 16 is tricky, and would perhaps even require a 17th team if Missouri leaves, but TCU and Houston are options.

So, saving the Big 12 is possible, as is forming a Big 16.

Think about Texas, Oklahoma, Texas A&M, Utah, Kansas State, Louisville, Kansas and Cincinnati football. How many BCS bowls have these programs combined for this decade?

Realize that all but A&M have been to the same number of BCS bowls this decade as has Nebraska, and unlike Nebraska all but Cincinnati have actually WON a BCS game.

And in basketball, you would have Kansas, Cincinnati, Louisville, Texas, and Oklahoma. Not too shabby, eh?

But in order for that to happen, Dan Beebe and the Big 12 have to move NOW. Utah should have been offered Big 12 membership already to replace Nebraska. Invites to Louisville and Cincinnati should come as soon as the Big 12 decides that they want to go to 16 teams to add TV screens and recruiting grounds, as well as strengthen their basketball product.

Still, there is one question that remains. What if Texas wants to go?

That's when the politics come into play. It is in the interests of Texas to go to the Pac-16. How this benefits A&M and Texas Tech needs to be explained to me, but the detriment to Baylor is obvious.

If you take Baylor out of the deal, the other three Texas universities are free to do as they see fit. That would mean that Texas A&M would be perfectly free to join the SEC, and get out from under the Longhorns' shadow. Such a move would also allow the Aggies to be in a conference with their old rival Arkansas, and help in recruiting in Louisiana, Georgia and Florida.

But in terms of the Longhorns, the Texas legislature can demand that they stay put. And in return, Texas won't have to revenue-share and can form its own TV network.

The rest of the Big 12/Big 16 can form a TV network without Texas, especially since it would carry Texas' conference road games.

Saving the Big 12 isn't only possible, but it could be made even better than it once was. It is the best move for all parties involved, but Beebe has to act quickly in order to make it happen.
 
I am cool with that too haha.... All sounds good. I am feelin better we are going to be apart of expansion and not left behind.
 
They already play Michigan, MSU, USC, Purdue, Pitt. I don't see how the Big 10 is adding competition to that?
 
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