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WAITE HOYT 2

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Cats look to be in good shape moving forward.

Bigs:

Brooks for another year
Diarra 3 more years
Elle 2 more years

PG:

Logan 3 more years

Wings:

Cumberland 1 year
Williams 2 more years
Scott 1 more year
Moore 2 more years
Frederickson 1 more year.
Prince 4 more years
Hardnett???

In coming

Curtis wing

Feel free to correct any errors I may have made.

I like how things shape up over the next couple of years. Looking at the improvement Williams made and the Potential of Logan added to all we have returning and the team should be very solid going forward. Next year we lose JJ and Broome. But if Loagn and Curtis replace them and Moore steps up we should be fine.

Anyone have a opinion on Cumberland leaving early? I think he will stay his last year.
 
WAITE HOYT 2 said:
Cats look to be in good shape moving forward.

Bigs:

Brooks for another year
Diarra 3 more years
Elle 2 more years

PG:

Logan 3 more years

Wings:

Cumberland 1 year
Williams 2 more years
Scott 1 more year
Moore 2 more years
Frederickson 1 more year.
Prince 4 more years
Hardnett???

In coming

Curtis wing

Feel free to correct any errors I may have made.

I like how things shape up over the next couple of years. Looking at the improvement Williams made and the Potential of Logan added to all we have returning and the team should be very solid going forward. Next year we lose JJ and Broome. But if Loagn and Curtis replace them and Moore steps up we should be fine.

Anyone have a opinion on Cumberland leaving early? I think he will stay his last year.
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He def. needs to stay his senior year IMO. He will get so much hype next year and I don't think he's fully ready for the NBA. He shouldn't hurt his chances by leaving too early. Jake had the natural athleticism for the NBA.

As long as his family and people around him convince him to stay. That's what worries me the most is the influences from family & friends.

That being said, he could always average 20+ a game from now until the end of the season and lead us to an elite 8 or better and get a lot of hype that way as well. I'd be ok with that.
 
GarradJ21 said:
He def. needs to stay his senior year IMO. He will get so much hype next year and I don't think he's fully ready for the NBA. He shouldn't hurt his chances by leaving too early. Jake had the natural athleticism for the NBA.

As long as his family and people around him convince him to stay. That's what worries me the most is the influences from family & friends.

That being said, he could always average 20+ a game from now until the end of the season and lead us to an elite 8 or better and get a lot of hype that way as well. I'd be ok with that.
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yes if he plays himself into a first round draft choice that would make me happy as ell.
 
WAITE HOYT 2 said:
Anyone have a opinion on Cumberland leaving early? I think he will stay his last year.
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he'll have to get there with offense. if it was just offense for Jake he'd still be here.


but Kaiser Gates went pro last year, so i mean who has any idea really.
 
WAITE HOYT 2 said:
Cats look to be in good shape moving forward.

Bigs:

Brooks for another year
Diarra 3 more years
Elle 2 more years

PG:

Logan 3 more years

Wings:

Cumberland 1 year
Williams 2 more years
Scott 1 more year
Moore 2 more years
Frederickson 1 more year.
Prince 4 more years
Hardnett???

In coming

Curtis wing

Feel free to correct any errors I may have made.

I like how things shape up over the next couple of years. Looking at the improvement Williams made and the Potential of Logan added to all we have returning and the team should be very solid going forward. Next year we lose JJ and Broome. But if Loagn and Curtis replace them and Moore steps up we should be fine.

Anyone have a opinion on Cumberland leaving early? I think he will stay his last year.
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If there is ever a time for Mick to bring in a Grad transfer point guard its next season.

Not to say Logon or Jarron couldn't handle the duties because they've both shown in my opinion that they're more than capable but we are losing a lot of ball handling with Jenifer and Cane graduating.

I'd just like to have a pure PG on the roster along with Logan with some experience for insurance purposes.

To help soften the blow in case of foul trouble or an injury.
 
WAITE HOYT 2 said:
Cats look to be in good shape moving forward.

Bigs:

Brooks for another year
Diarra 3 more years
Elle 2 more years

PG:

Logan 3 more years

Wings:

Cumberland 1 year
Williams 2 more years
Scott 1 more year
Moore 2 more years
Frederickson 1 more year.
Prince 4 more years
Hardnett???

In coming

Curtis wing

Feel free to correct any errors I may have made.

I like how things shape up over the next couple of years. Looking at the improvement Williams made and the Potential of Logan added to all we have returning and the team should be very solid going forward. Next year we lose JJ and Broome. But if Loagn and Curtis replace them and Moore steps up we should be fine.

Anyone have a opinion on Cumberland leaving early? I think he will stay his last year.
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This is how you maintain success. I just wish we could mix in a one and done talent every other year.
 
Samari drops 47 last night. Heard his league isn't great but he still can score. I know he will be running point sometime next year. How will teams stop Keith, Jarron and Samari? If we had an upgrade in bigs, we truly would be one of the best teams in the country.
 
GarradJ21 said:
Samari drops 47 last night. Heard his league isn't great but he still can score. I know he will be running point sometime next year. How will teams stop Keith, Jarron and Samari? If we had an upgrade in bigs, we truly would be one of the best teams in the country.
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If Mick could recruit worth a shit we would have an upgrade in bigs.
 
GarradJ21 said:
Samari drops 47 last night. Heard his league isn't great but he still can score. I know he will be running point sometime next year. How will teams stop Keith, Jarron and Samari? If we had an upgrade in bigs, we truly would be one of the best teams in the country.
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If other teams were really worried about stopping UC or taking ball out of guards hands, the answer is simple, hack a big, either Eli or Brooks.
 
I feel bad bringing this up but I think UC needs to tell Fredericks he should look for other opportunities. Prince and Hardnett will be eligible next year and I can’t see how Prince is worse than what Rashawn offered this year. Not to mention we have our entire front court back where hopefully Diarra can get some more minutes. This would hopefully allow us to use another scholarship to go after a shooter that can hit a 3.

I would be ok with looking for a replacement for Moore too but I am still hopeful that he will actually turn in to a legit threat from deep.

I am not sure if it is the culture of the team that Mick has instituted but Moore looks timid when shooting and Rashawn is no where near producing at a D1 level despite being a juco all American.
 
HarryBosch said:
If Mick could recruit worth a shit we would have an upgrade in bigs.
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Brooks and Scott were our second and third best players over the final few weeks of the season. Arguably even throughout the year. Their backups were questionable (or non-existent for Scott), but our starting bigs have been quite good.
 
tonka said:
I feel bad bringing this up but I think UC needs to tell Fredericks he should look for other opportunities. Prince and Hardnett will be eligible next year and I can’t see how Prince is worse than what Rashawn offered this year. Not to mention we have our entire front court back where hopefully Diarra can get some more minutes. This would hopefully allow us to use another scholarship to go after a shooter that can hit a 3.

I would be ok with looking for a replacement for Moore too but I am still hopeful that he will actually turn in to a legit threat from deep.

I am not sure if it is the culture of the team that Mick has instituted but Moore looks timid when shooting and Rashawn is no where near producing at a D1 level despite being a juco all American.
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We still have one open scholarship, so there is really no reason to force Frederick's out. Mick tends not to treat transfers/Juco's the same as his program seniors either. Frederick's will not be guaranteed any playing time. Maybe he can make a jump and earn it next year, but otherwise he will just be another guy on the bench.
 
skyblade said:
We still have one open scholarship, so there is really no reason to force Frederick's out. Mick tends not to treat transfers/Juco's the same as his program seniors either. Frederick's will not be guaranteed any playing time. Maybe he can make a jump and earn it next year, but otherwise he will just be another guy on the bench.
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If Moore plans on having another year like this year, i'd much rather have Frederick's. He he had decent stretches to end the season. Trevor was literally nothing "Moore" than 2 extra sneakers on the court for 95% of the season.
 
skyblade said:
We still have one open scholarship, so there is really no reason to force Frederick's out. Mick tends not to treat transfers/Juco's the same as his program seniors either. Frederick's will not be guaranteed any playing time. Maybe he can make a jump and earn it next year, but otherwise he will just be another guy on the bench.
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Right. But why not bring in a guy who will actually contribute and bring something different?
 
tonka said:
Right. But why not bring in a guy who will actually contribute and bring something different?
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We are going to have 4 seniors, 3 juniors, two sophomores (one of whom is a redshirt sophomore), two redshirt freshmen and Curtis who is Ohio Mr. Basketball. There's not a whole lot of room left for a freshman to contribute. Curtis and our redshirt freshmen will likely have trouble getting on the court. It's unlikely Cronin will find one more recruit who will contribute more then Fredericks, much less two more.
 

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