Grade Our OOC Performance

[Queens_NYC]

I'd gives us a B+

Positives: No bad losses. Went 2-2 during our tough stretch and traveled three time zones to put together an elite performance against a talented squad. Defense has been fairly stellar.

Negatives: Not competitive against X @ Cintas. Incredibly uncomposed against a beatable Florida team.

Certainly not much to complain about from an on-court point of view but I wanted to see how satisfied others were with where we are now.

 

[UCalum08]

Id give it a C. Like you said, completely irrelevant for the X game and wasted a prime opportunity to beat a more than beatable Florida team. Easily should have went 3-1.

 

[cincyguy13]

C-/D. Went 2-2 in the games that matter but only 1 of those teams looks any good. Florida has been a mess since th PK80. UCLA doesn’t look that good. And a SOS around 300. Long season, but based strickly on the non-conference, not great

 

[cincyguy13]

We also put ourselves in a hole when it comes to getting a decent seed.

 

[CHEER CINCY]

Moving this from another thread.

WHY, yet again, do we seemingly have a conversation EVERY year about our SOS sucking? Cant Cronin pick up the phone and call the MAC, Miss Valley, or some other high RPI mid majors and just schedule a home and home? Its insufferable watching Cronin then add to the fact we are watching Ark PB, its a horrible fan experience. This NEEDS to be addressed. No more excuses. I have written Bohn about this several times over the past year.

 

[Bcatfollower]

Moving this from another thread.

WHY, yet again, do we seemingly have a conversation EVERY year about our SOS sucking? Cant Cronin pick up the phone and call the MAC, Miss Valley, or some other high RPI mid majors and just schedule a home and home? Its insufferable watching Cronin then add to the fact we are watching Ark PB, its a horrible fan experience. This NEEDS to be addressed. No more excuses. I have written Bohn about this several times over the past year.

They prob feel if you play home and home with mid majors you are a mid major.

 

[jacobkdoyle]

Moving this from another thread.

WHY, yet again, do we seemingly have a conversation EVERY year about our SOS sucking? Cant Cronin pick up the phone and call the MAC, Miss Valley, or some other high RPI mid majors and just schedule a home and home? Its insufferable watching Cronin then add to the fact we are watching Ark PB, its a horrible fan experience. This NEEDS to be addressed. No more excuses. I have written Bohn about this several times over the past year.

So instead of watching a game at home, you would travel to mid major arenas? Bc we'd lose a home game everytime we did this.

 

[jacobkdoyle]

Solid B from me. 2-2 is ok in those 4 games. Outscored Florida, Miss St, UCLA by +23 combined. We won our tournament too. The negativity around here is the worst. Someone gave an 11-2 team a C-/D? Really? Who do you think we are? The Warriors? Did you think we were going 29-2 this year? Weird grade to me.

 

[WAITE HOYT 2]

B- for me. Got outplayed by X and turned the ball over 21 times against Florida.

 

[CHEER CINCY]

So instead of watching a game at home, you would travel to mid major arenas? Bc we'd lose a home game everytime we did this.

Id would def travel to Ohio Univ, Wright State, Toldeo, Ball State, Bowling Green, etc etc etc. Ton of season tickets holders dont go to these crappy non-conf blowouts anyways. I dont care what people think of our schedule or if we lose a few home games to travel within 2/3 hours. Its all about tourney time and giving ourselves the best chance to do that. Under Cronin since joining the AAC, we have done ourselves no favors in this space. And whatdya know, X plays Northern Iowa on the road tonight.

 

[cincyguy13]

Solid B from me. 2-2 is ok in those 4 games. Outscored Florida, Miss St, UCLA by +23 combined. We won our tournament too. The negativity around here is the worst. Someone gave an 11-2 team a C-/D? Really? Who do you think we are? The Warriors? Did you think we were going 29-2 this year? Weird grade to me.

I can't believe people are giving them a B. Before the season most people thought this was a final 4 caliber team. Based on the Non conference (which was the question asked), have they looked like that at all? Florida, miss at, and Florida are not/ we're not good when we played them. None are ranked right now and Florida was only ranked because the pol didn't come out yet. 2-2 is fine for an average team but this team was supposed to be great. Can the turn it around? Yes. They might dominate the conference but based on the non conference, what was above average? (Which a B would be).

 

[waterhead]

I'd gives us a B+

Positives: No bad losses. Went 2-2 during our tough stretch and traveled three time zones to put together an elite performance against a talented squad. Defense has been fairly stellar.

Negatives: Not competitive against X @ Cintas. Incredibly uncomposed against a beatable Florida team.

Certainly not much to complain about from an on-court point of view but I wanted to see how satisfied others were with where we are now.

Based on early expectations I would probably give it a B but I might lower that grade a bit because FLA isn't that good. Maybe C+. We should have went 3-1 vs that 4 game stretch. Defense gets an A for the most part.

We are still trying to figure out our identity so we should expect some bumps along the way I guess. Clark and Evans get an A from me. Evans has some turnovers but otherwise is doing very well. Washington is picking up the pace a little. I am starting to agree with others on Cumberland...he's either making a shot or missing bad...I don't get it. Cane is playing much better but obviously coach still has some issues with him to work out. I would give Jenifer a solid B based on not extremely high expectations.

I think we will continue to play better together as we go but we aren't a well oiled machine yet. I think there will be a game or two where we could struggle and lose one that we shouldn't...but hopefully we are clicking late in the season. Our defense should hold us in most games even if we aren't efficient on offense here or there.

Enjoy the ride I guess. Don't complain too much if we hit a bump or two.

 

[cincyguy13]

Is miss st or ucla a tourney team? I don't think they are. So we beat 2 teams that won't be in the tournament. One at home. These iare our big wins. How is above average? What am I missing?

 

[jacobkdoyle]

I can't believe people are giving them a B. Before the season most people thought this was a final 4 caliber team. Based on the Non conference (which was the question asked), have they looked like that at all? Florida, miss at, and Florida are not/ we're not good when we played them. None are ranked right now and Florida was only ranked because the pol didn't come out yet. 2-2 is fine for an average team but this team was supposed to be great. Can the turn it around? Yes. They might dominate the conference but based on the non conference, what was above average? (Which a B would be).

We never dropped below #13 on KenPom at any point in the non-conference. I'm pretty sure that's better than we have ever been. And you can say Miss St and UCLA aren't great, but you act like we beat them on buzzer beater. We didn't. We kicked the crap out of them. That should count for something. Even if you drop a full letter grade for each loss, based on the other wins in the bigger games, winning our tournament, and not losing or really being tested otherwise, how do you get to a D?

 

[jacobkdoyle]

I can't believe people are giving them a B. Before the season most people thought this was a final 4 caliber team. Based on the Non conference (which was the question asked), have they looked like that at all? Florida, miss at, and Florida are not/ we're not good when we played them. None are ranked right now and Florida was only ranked because the pol didn't come out yet. 2-2 is fine for an average team but this team was supposed to be great. Can the turn it around? Yes. They might dominate the conference but based on the non conference, what was above average? (Which a B would be).

Bro what are you watching? Turn it around?

 

[waterhead]

I can't believe people are giving them a B. Before the season most people thought this was a final 4 caliber team. Based on the Non conference (which was the question asked), have they looked like that at all? Florida, miss at, and Florida are not/ we're not good when we played them. None are ranked right now and Florida was only ranked because the pol didn't come out yet. 2-2 is fine for an average team but this team was supposed to be great. Can the turn it around? Yes. They might dominate the conference but based on the non conference, what was above average? (Which a B would be).

I don't know. I guess we can say we took care of most of the teams like we should have. Buffalo was a little too close maybe but we can't be on every night I guess. UCLA we looked really good. Miss st we looked decent. Obviously FLA was a struggle and we got kicked in the teeth early at X. We are still #10 in Kenpom so we must have done something right.

That FLA game stings obviously and X was going to be a tough tough game whether they were ranked #50 or #1. I wish we had the FLA game back though.

 

[jacobkdoyle]

Is miss st or ucla a tourney team? I don't think they are. So we beat 2 teams that won't be in the tournament. One at home. These iare our big wins. How is above average? What am I missing?

We beat them by 29 combined on the back end of a very tough stretch. I mean, if you watched the UCLA game and don't give credit for that performance, you have no idea how to appreciate good college basketball when it's right in front of you.

 

[cincrulz11]

Ill give it a C because it really wrapped around that 4 game stretch.


and out of all the potential outcomes of that, it was middle of the road.


.95 ppp vs x/florida left a bitter taste in my mouth.

 

[cincyguy13]

We never dropped below #13 on KenPom at any point in the non-conference. I'm pretty sure that's better than we have ever been. And you can say Miss St and UCLA aren't great, but you act like we beat them on buzzer beater. We didn't. We kicked the crap out of them. That should count for something. Even if you drop a full letter grade for each loss, based on the other wins in the bigger games, winning our tournament, and not losing or really being tested otherwise, how do you get to a D?

Maybe it is a C, but how is it a B? Our expectations were through the roof and they haven't played great. 3-4 teams we played aren't that good. That's not me being negative, that's the truth. We looked like crap against Florida. Those 4 games are basically all we have to go on. You can't base anything off the other games the teams were so bad. Even in our tournament we struggled with buffalo. This is above average?

 

[Jon Rycek]

Id would def travel to Ohio Univ, Wright State, Toldeo, Ball State, Bowling Green, etc etc etc. Ton of season tickets holders dont go to these crappy non-conf blowouts anyways. I dont care what people think of our schedule or if we lose a few home games to travel within 2/3 hours. Its all about tourney time and giving ourselves the best chance to do that. Under Cronin since joining the AAC, we have done ourselves no favors in this space. And whatdya know, X plays Northern Iowa on the road tonight.

So you'd go to these places? Risk a tough loss every year, and in turn give up a home game, and it's for the fan experience? Lol... how would a season ticket enjoy an away game more than one they can actually go to???