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Starting this thread early.

Fabian White Jr. Who tore his ACL in May just entered the game in the Houston @WSU game tonight. It's his first game of the season. Great for him and for Houston, in the time of Covid not many top teams are adding star players at this point in the season.

Bad timing for us though. Already the #6 team in the country, they now have back White who would have been a player of the year candidate if healthy.
 
WSU also on fire from 3. 10-21 (50%), quite a few of which haven't been easy shots. Meanwhile Houston is 7-21 (30%).

I'm glad I decided to watch this game, it reminds me how hard some teams (not us most of the time) play. Neither team is backing down.
 
The steal at the end reminded me of Logan Johnson against Memphis a couple years ago. Guys aren't expecting passing lanes to be jumped in those situations.
 
Kind of reminded me of the way Temple has blown it at the end of games. Down 1 with the ball, 15 seconds left and Houston throws it away with a lacksidasical pass and then commits a flagrant foul.
 
cincyguy13 said:
They play cronin ball. Lots of positives to it. Get a lot of wins, also negatives. It has its limits
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you look at the talent on that roster and its hard to believe they are 218 in the county in eFG%. they have 5 guys shooting 34.6% or better from 3. but alas, they are old school with 353 mid range shots this year, compared to 318 shots at the rim (compared to us, we have 193 mid range 2s and 320 shots at the rim).

imagine if they had a coach that believed in new offense.
 
cincrulz11 said:
you look at the talent on that roster and its hard to believe they are 218 in the county in eFG%. they have 5 guys shooting 34.6% or better from 3. but alas, they are old school with 353 mid range shots this year, compared to 318 shots at the rim (compared to us, we have 193 mid range 2s and 320 shots at the rim).

imagine if they had a coach that believed in new offense.
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That way of playing is a dangerous game, (cronin ball). Like I’ve said 100 times. You can’t “out tough” good teams. We’ve tried that going all they way back to Huggins. Good teams do not care how tough you are. They don’t. You have to be able to score. Houston’s had the most talent by far in the league for 3 years now and gotten nothing
 
cincyguy13 said:
That way of playing is a dangerous game, (cronin ball). Like I’ve said 100 times. You can’t “out tough” good teams. We’ve tried that going all they way back to Huggins. Good teams do not care how tough you are. They don’t. You have to be able to score. Houston’s had the most talent by far in the league for 3 years now and gotten nothing
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They have a sweet 16, and coulda been 2 sweet 16’s if not a game winner from Michigan.

I mean, Houston is a top 10 team who had the preseason player of the year coming off the bench before he decided to transfer closer to home.

Add in that Fabian white played his first game all season


For a team that has lost 2 starter level players for almost the whole season and still held it down, it says something about their elite culture built from nothing.

Id trade coaches with Houston right now with out a doubt. John brannen hadn’t proven he can coach defense, champions play defense. And oddly enough he’s never had a top 50 offense. Nor top 50 defense. Downplaying Houston is kinda hilarious when John brannen hasn’t proved he can win a tourney game and coach a top 50 defense and offense.


8 mid major teams were in the top 50 in offense in 2018... NKU and brannen were not one of them. 6 or 7 had top 50 defenses. So mid majors can and do break through to the top 50 in offense and defense and John never could at his time at NKU

And yet some of you think that John brannen has all the tools it takes to win in March. It’s baffling
 
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justinhub2003 said:
They have a sweet 16, and coulda been 2 sweet 16’s if not a game winner from Michigan.

I mean, Houston is a top 10 team who had the preseason player of the year coming off the bench before he decided to transfer closer to home.

Add in that Fabian white played his first game all season


For a team that has lost 2 starter level players for almost the whole season and still held it down, it says something about their elite culture built from nothing.

Id trade coaches with Houston right now with out a doubt. John brannen hadn’t proven he can coach defense, champions play defense. And oddly enough he’s never had a top 50 offense. Nor top 50 defense. Downplaying Houston is kinda hilarious when John brannen hasn’t proved he can win a tourney game and coach a top 50 defense and offense.


8 mid major teams were in the top 50 in offense in 2018... NKU and brannen were not one of them. 6 or 7 had top 50 defenses. So mid majors can and do break through to the top 50 in offense and defense and John never could at his time at NKU

And yet some of you think that John brannen has all the tools it takes to win in March. It’s baffling
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I think we don’t know if Brannen does... but we had proof mick couldn’t.
 
Bcatfollower said:
I think we don’t know if Brannen does... but we had proof mick couldn’t.
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My whole thing with Mick is... I didn’t mind replacing him if we were sure his replacement was better. I don’t think John fit the bill for being for sure better.

But I’m hoping he will be.

A guy like Nate Oates, you could tell he was a star In waiting from the mid majors. His last two seasons at Buffalo he had a top 50 offense and in his final year had a top 50 offense and defense. That’s a guy you can be sure was better than mick. If he were still on the market when Bohn basically tried to push mick out, then I’d get it. If be thrilled to have him.





Anyway, I have no idea what to expect today. It’s been awhile since UC played a good team. But we need big games from the guards because Houston’s “Monster” defense is going to double every post touch and take Vogt out of the flow early
 
justinhub2003 said:
They have a sweet 16, and coulda been 2 sweet 16’s if not a game winner from Michigan.

I mean, Houston is a top 10 team who had the preseason player of the year coming off the bench before he decided to transfer closer to home.

Add in that Fabian white played his first game all season


For a team that has lost 2 starter level players for almost the whole season and still held it down, it says something about their elite culture built from nothing.

Id trade coaches with Houston right now with out a doubt. John brannen hadn’t proven he can coach defense, champions play defense. And oddly enough he’s never had a top 50 offense. Nor top 50 defense. Downplaying Houston is kinda hilarious when John brannen hasn’t proved he can win a tourney game and coach a top 50 defense and offense.


8 mid major teams were in the top 50 in offense in 2018... NKU and brannen were not one of them. 6 or 7 had top 50 defenses. So mid majors can and do break through to the top 50 in offense and defense and John never could at his time at NKU

And yet some of you think that John brannen has all the tools it takes to win in March. It’s baffling
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You make these kind of excuses for cronin? Or like why do you give everyone else a pass for things they’ve had to endure but when it’s our coaches it’s THEIR fault
 
Jon Rycek said:
You make these kind of excuses for cronin? Or like why do you give everyone else a pass for things they’ve had to endure but when it’s our coaches it’s THEIR fault
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This.

He can’t be consistent. It’s really not that hard.
 
justinhub2003 said:
My whole thing with Mick is... I didn’t mind replacing him if we were sure his replacement was better. I don’t think John fit the bill for being for sure better.

But I’m hoping he will be.

A guy like Nate Oates, you could tell he was a star In waiting from the mid majors. His last two seasons at Buffalo he had a top 50 offense and in his final year had a top 50 offense and defense. That’s a guy you can be sure was better than mick. If he were still on the market when Bohn basically tried to push mick out, then I’d get it. If be thrilled to have him.





Anyway, I have no idea what to expect today. It’s been awhile since UC played a good team. But we need big games from the guards because Houston’s “Monster” defense is going to double every post touch and take Vogt out of the flow early
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I mean brannen dominated at nku for a team that was just promoted to division 1. He had the thing rolling, Saying he didn’t do anything is ignorant. You can not want him? Have someone else in mind, that’s fine. We all have opinions, but acting like he wasn’t qualified, isn’t true
 
justinhub2003 said:
They have a sweet 16, and coulda been 2 sweet 16’s if not a game winner from Michigan.

I mean, Houston is a top 10 team who had the preseason player of the year coming off the bench before he decided to transfer closer to home.

Add in that Fabian white played his first game all season


For a team that has lost 2 starter level players for almost the whole season and still held it down, it says something about their elite culture built from nothing.

Id trade coaches with Houston right now with out a doubt. John brannen hadn’t proven he can coach defense, champions play defense. And oddly enough he’s never had a top 50 offense. Nor top 50 defense. Downplaying Houston is kinda hilarious when John brannen hasn’t proved he can win a tourney game and coach a top 50 defense and offense.


8 mid major teams were in the top 50 in offense in 2018... NKU and brannen were not one of them. 6 or 7 had top 50 defenses. So mid majors can and do break through to the top 50 in offense and defense and John never could at his time at NKU

And yet some of you think that John brannen has all the tools it takes to win in March. It’s baffling
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No, we are saying he might. Let’s give him a chance. Big difference between that and saying he’s a legend. It’s not that hard of a concept. To give the guy a chance. The guy was at nku. You act like he should have been dominant college basketball. Use a little common sense.
 
Jon Rycek said:
You make these kind of excuses for cronin? Or like why do you give everyone else a pass for things they’ve had to endure but when it’s our coaches it’s THEIR fault
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Well........ Houston is ranked and 100% making the tourney as a top 4 seed.

So clearly Houston muscled through their issues and kept winning. WSU also made no excuses and lead the league in the standings. UCLA losts best player from last year and lost a pivotal big man, they didn’t make excuses either.



John brannen has had a bunch of players leave unexpectedly, has zero recruits for 2021 and is 7-7.

Luckily we played some slump busters and hopefully figure it out. But he takes too damn long to figure his own team out and next year will have a load of new comers to also try and make mesh quickly.
 
cincyguy13 said:
No, we are saying he might. Let’s give him a chance. Big difference between that and saying he’s a legend. It’s not that hard of a concept. To give the guy a chance. The guy was at nku. You act like he should have been dominant college basketball. Use a little common sense.
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Bruh I just showed you that great coaches at the mid major level
Can and do break through in the low and mid majors when it comes to offensive and defensive efficiency. John was not one of those coaches
 
I’m gonna predict a Bearcats victory.

Just because why not. I been placing bets lately which I never did before and so far made money on the Connor/Poirier fight, last nights fight and the super bowl.

Maybe my luck streak keeps going.
 

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