It is getting ugly for Syracuse

[ralph1950]

Asst. Coach Bernie Fine, who has been with Jim Boeheim for 35 years at Syracuse, is under investigation for molesting a ball boy. First Joe Paterno now Jim Boeheim? ESPN is all over this story.

 

[Kingsley Court]

This is disgusting stuff. We'll hear more about the story soon enough..

I'm interested to see how Syracuse reacts. I know they have him suspended for now, but Boeheim is backing his coach 100 percent. If it comes out that the allegations are true, does Boeheim get canned? This situation could be very different than Penn State though. The story keeps unfolding at Penn State, and it seems like there was a massive cover up attempt.

I agree though, it could get ugly for Syracuse.

 

[Thegreatone]

From what I have read it seems that Syracuse and police did investigate at some point but were not able to find any crediable evidence.

Jason Whitlock, who is the best sports writer in America, is questioning the timing of everything. One, is this something ESPN has known about and decided it would be a good time to break the story. Two, are the people looking to get money with the outrage from Penn State.

Regardless Cuse better figure out what did and did not happen. If there is any truth then the assistant needs to be fired.

I think it is way to early to make any serious judgements

 

[DontMissHim]

From what I have read it seems that Syracuse and police did investigate at some point but were not able to find any crediable evidence.

Jason Whitlock, who is the best sports writer in America, is questioning the timing of everything. One, is this something ESPN has known about and decided it would be a good time to break the story. Two, are the people looking to get money with the outrage from Penn State.

Regardless Cuse better figure out what did and did not happen. If there is any truth then the assistant needs to be fired.

I think it is way to early to make any serious judgements

Completely agree. I found the timing odd, and it happened so long ago that it will be tough to investigate. If he truly was molested that is terrible- but hold out until we get more proof. In the Penn State case we had eye witness that told the Head coach (why he didn't do more is beyond me...different topic). If we had eye witnessed in this case I would find it hard to believe nothing has come out until recently....

The timing is unusual also, though maybe he gained confidence and said something after this whole Penn State thing

 

[Thegreatone]

Completely agree. I found the timing odd, and it happened so long ago that it will be tough to investigate. If he truly was molested that is terrible- but hold out until we get more proof. In the Penn State case we had eye witness that told the Head coach (why he didn't do more is beyond me...different topic). If we had eye witnessed in this case I would find it hard to believe nothing has come out until recently....

The timing is unusual also, though maybe he gained confidence and said something after this whole Penn State thing

I keep thinking that same thing, maybe they got confidence from the Penn State thing. I don't know.

I love your sig lol

 

[ralph1950]

From what I have read it seems that Syracuse and police did investigate at some point but were not able to find any crediable evidence.

Jason Whitlock, who is the best sports writer in America, is questioning the timing of everything. One, is this something ESPN has known about and decided it would be a good time to break the story. Two, are the people looking to get money with the outrage from Penn State.

Regardless Cuse better figure out what did and did not happen. If there is any truth then the assistant needs to be fired.

I think it is way to early to make any serious judgements

The ESPN guy from OTL was on Mike and Mike this morning. He said that ESPN did not run the story in 2003 when they found out about it because all they had was the accusations of the one individual with no corrarborting stories. After the Penn State story became public another victim came forward.

 

[DontMissHim]

The ESPN guy from OTL was on Mike and Mike this morning. He said that ESPN did not run the story in 2003 when they found out about it because all they had was the accusations of the one individual with no corrarborting stories. After the Penn State story became public another victim came forward.

The other victim is the step brother of the first victim which also raised a red flag. I'm not saying it didn't happen but a lot of unusual things in this case

 

[ralph1950]

Getting worse for Syracuse, Fine fired, is Jim Boeheim next?

Maybe ACC will withdraw invitation?

 

[DontMissHim]

Getting worse for Syracuse, Fine fired, is Jim Boeheim next?

Maybe ACC will withdraw invitation?

As you said "it's all about football". This has no impact on the ACC....unless you are going to change your stance on the matter?

 

[ralph1950]

As you said "it's all about football". This has no impact on the ACC....unless you are going to change your stance on the matter?

Actually, it is about Political Correctness which is why Joe Paterno got fired. You hear on talk shows that Penn State should not be invited to a bowl game.

So if you are the ACC is it politically correct to invite child molester U to be a member of your conference?

 

[DontMissHim]

Actually, it is about Political Correctness which is why Joe Paterno got fired. You hear on talk shows that Penn State should not be invited to a bowl game.

So if you are the ACC is it politically correct to invite child molester U to be a member of your conference?

I can see your point, if Penn State was the team that got invited I would expect them to withdraw the invite. I just don't think this Syracuse thing is close to what went on at Penn State.

 

[ready2go]

I can see your point, if Penn State was the team that got invited I would expect them to withdraw the invite. I just don't think this Syracuse thing is close to what went on at Penn State.

Disagree. You have to think who you are actually punishing here. In this case it would be the players who had nothing to do with the allegations. You cant do that to those kids. The ones who were involved, have been punished in the most severe way already. Losing their careers.

And I'm not even a fan of Penn State

 

[DontMissHim]

Disagree. You have to think who you are actually punishing here. In this case it would be the players who had nothing to do with the allegations. You cant do that to those kids. The ones who were involved, have been punished in the most severe way already. Losing their careers.

And I'm not even a fan of Penn State

True, but you have to think about possible NCAA penalties. If this is something that would destroy the Penn State program, would the ACC (assuming they sent the invite) still be interested? Will their be any NCAA penalties?

 

[ready2go]

True, but you have to think about possible NCAA penalties. If this is something that would destroy the Penn State program, would the ACC (assuming they sent the invite) still be interested? Will their be any NCAA penalties?

When the NCAA first commented on the Penn State scandal they said it was a police matter. I'm not sure about NCAA violations, but you never know when dealing with the infractions committee

 

[ralph1950]

When the NCAA first commented on the Penn State scandal they said it was a police matter. I'm not sure about NCAA violations, but you never know when dealing with the infractions committee

The NCAA got bombarded for that statement as it was not politically correct. The NCAA has since sent Penn State the dreaded letter of inquiry and will come down hard on Penn State because it is the politically correct thing to do.

 

[ready2go]

The NCAA got bombarded for that statement as it was not politically correct. The NCAA has since sent Penn State the dreaded letter of inquiry and will come down hard on Penn State because it is the politically correct thing to do.

Yes, I as I stated. But as a former college athlete, it would not be fair to punish a TEAM who had little to do with the allegations. Fire those involved and make an example out of them. Those seniors on that TEAM only get one more shot. For them to be punished, in my mind, would be wrong by the NCAA. Punish the school somehow. Take away bowl money from previous years, take away scholarships, things like that.