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Discussing his upcoming tryout for the World University Games.

http://www.gobearcats.com/allaccess/?media=250720

Maybe it's because of the summer time levity, the success last year or what have you... but Yancy seems much more comfortable in talking to the media. Not that it was ever a big problem for him... but he seems very relaxed and at east in his own skin.
 
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yes he does, he should be reminded daily. Hell he should be watching fortson, martin, hicks, maxiell tapes on the daily.

You sound like the father who works his son to death from the age of 5 and the kid is burnt out and wants to quit by age 12 lol

Yancy is a Bearcat fan. He's aware of the tradition. And i'm sure Mick's shown him plenty of helpful tape.
 
You sound like the father who works his son to death from the age of 5 and the kid is burnt out and wants to quit by age 12 lol

Yancy is a Bearcat fan. He's aware of the tradition. And i'm sure Mick's shown him plenty of helpful tape.

Possibly accurate, although he will be the best damn 12 year player in the state.
 
yes he does, he should be reminded daily. Hell he should be watching fortson, martin, hicks, maxiell tapes on the daily.

id be interested to know if Hicks works out at UC in the summer. based on the Pacman arrest incident, we know he has at least been in town recently.
 
He should watch tape of Hicks but Fortson? As dominant as he was, he had no shot at all. We don't need someone that one dimensional today and if he becomes that way, in the league he will share in Fortson's fate of being traded around for big men who actually do have a jump shot.
 
He should watch tape of Hicks but Fortson? As dominant as he was, he had no shot at all. We don't need someone that one dimensional today and if he becomes that way, in the league he will share in Fortson's fate of being traded around for big men who actually do have a jump shot.

our goal is first and foremost their career at UC, not in the NBA. not all players are blessed with the skills to succeed in the NBA. fortson was several inches shorter and not near as agile as Gates is. regardless, if during gates senior year he was HALF the player fortson was his freshman, we will be in for a VERY good season. gates has no go to post move nor any reliable repotoire. saying he shouldnt emulate fortson- who had the best low post game of a uc player in the modern era- is just silly.
 
our goal is first and foremost their career at UC, not in the NBA. not all players are blessed with the skills to succeed in the NBA. fortson was several inches shorter and not near as agile as Gates is.

I think one in the other is the same for Gates. It isn't as though the college game hasn't changed as well. Players in the NBA aren't spawned from an alternate universe. If the talent there has changed, it stands to reason that's because the college game is different. Most centers in D-1 basketball who are among the best today do more than just dunk and rebound. I agree that his out-put being on Fortson's level stat wise would be great, but I don't think Fortson could have that out-put in todays game.


gates has no go to post move nor any reliable repotoire. saying he shouldnt emulate fortson- who had the best low post game of a uc player in the modern era- is just silly.

Silly is suggesting that a man who played in a smaller conference a decade ago, who could do nothing but dunk or pick up garbage tip ins and had defenders around him nowhere near as good, would do just as well in our current situation.

From what I've seen of Gates this summer, I think he does have a reliable repotoire, especially going from the other hand which he couldn't do last year.
 
I think one in the other is the same for Gates. It isn't as though the college game hasn't changed as well. Players in the NBA aren't spawned from an alternate universe. If the talent there has changed, it stands to reason that's because the college game is different. Most centers in D-1 basketball who are among the best today do more than just dunk and rebound. I agree that his out-put being on Fortson's level stat wise would be great, but I don't think Fortson could have that out-put in todays game.




Silly is suggesting that a man who played in a smaller conference a decade ago, who could do nothing but dunk or pick up garbage tip ins and had defenders around him nowhere near as good, would do just as well in our current situation.

From what I've seen of Gates this summer, I think he does have a reliable repotoire, especially going from the other hand which he couldn't do last year.


fortson could do nothing but dunk or have tip ins? i beginning to think that you did not even watch him play. he is arguably the most offensively polished on the block player uc has ever had. forston was ROUTINELY triple teamed. no matter what conference you are in, you dont do that to guys who can only dunk and tip the ball in. competition was worse, but its not like he had 6'3" guys guarding him.
 
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fortson could do nothing but dunk or have tip ins? i beginning to think that you did not even watch him play.

Force him 8-15 from the basket and let him shoot.
That's all I'm saying. I've seen him play, great rebounder with tremendous strength, I've seen those same attributes in guys who could actually shoot the ball also though. For that reason, some people impress me a lot more than him.



he is arguably the most offensively polished on the block player uc has ever had. forston was ROUTINELY triple teamed. no matter what conference you are in,



No. Conference USA even back then was not the Big East and to pretend it was is horse $h!t. I'm not saying he wouldn't succeed or even do remarkably well, but there's not a snow ball's chance in hell that he scores the same or rebounds the same on our current competition.


you dont do that to guys who can only dunk and tip the ball in. competition was worse, but its not like he had 6'3" guys guarding him.
You do if you have no inside presence due to being in a second rate mid-major conference. If you give up 20-30 points, that's bad. Even if they all come by dunks, hooks and bunnies.
It's not like they had the length or the talent of the teams we play today. If you think the Syracuse or UConn teams last year would have to triple team him, you're nuts.
 
jinxy, you are way off on this. way off. Fortson hardly ever even dunked. You couldn't slide a piece of paper underneath his vert. He had incredible post skills. He was great at getting position and holding position. And he could back just about anybody down and if he couldn't, he was great at hitting those 10-15 footers. He would have been an absolute stud in any conference he played in. You don't become a lottery pick by being an average college player.

If those teams have to double Yancy, which they do, they would have had to double Fortson. I love Yancy, but Fortson was twice the offensive player Yancy was and it's not even close.
 
Force him 8-15 from the basket and let him shoot.
That's all I'm saying. I've seen him play, great rebounder with tremendous strength, I've seen those same attributes in guys who could actually shoot the ball also though. For that reason, some people impress me a lot more than him.







No. Conference USA even back then was not the Big East and to pretend it was is horse $h!t. I'm not saying he wouldn't succeed or even do remarkably well, but there's not a snow ball's chance in hell that he scores the same or rebounds the same on our current competition.



You do if you have no inside presence due to being in a second rate mid-major conference. If you give up 20-30 points, that's bad. Even if they all come by dunks, hooks and bunnies.
It's not like they had the length or the talent of the teams we play today. If you think the Syracuse or UConn teams last year would have to triple team him, you're nuts.

conference usa had louisville, memphis, marquette, depaul (yes they used to be good)...you act like they were playing against high school teams. guess what- four of the teams he played against in the cusa yancy gates now plays against. i never said it was the big east, but c-usa used to be a lot more respected in the day than it is now, and they were playing against d-1 bodies. and you say you want to see what fortson does against big east caliber guys- id like to see what gates does against a c-usa triple team. mick has to announce on his postgame radio show/media appearance that yancy got double teamed during the game to justify when he doesnt score points. being triple teamed in the c-usa is much, much more difficult that man to man in the big east.

sorry man, i dont know if you only saw fortson play in the nba and dont remember or are too young or have a poor memory and dont remember him at UC, but forston never dunked, and like longhaul said- you are way off here.
 
conference usa had louisville, memphis, marquette, depaul (yes they used to be good)...you act like they were playing against high school teams.




First of all, Louisville in the late 90s was nowhere near as stacked as it is now so that doesn't work. Secondly Marquette was always a small squad and while Memphis is a storied program with a lot of talent and some length, Depaul was NEVER known for their length.

It's just not the same thing at all.
Things change, look how much we've changed in that time.

guess what- four of the teams he played against in the cusa yancy gates
now plays against. i never said it was the big east, but c-usa used to be a lot more respected in the day than it is now, and they were playing against d-1 bodies.


No, they weren't the same teams, they only had the same name.
Depaul today is a D-1 program, saying "D-1" tells us nothing.
Those teams didn't have the size or talent of many of the programs that are considered tough teams today.
Teams like Florida, North Carolina, Cuse, Texas, UConn ect were longer and stronger teams than what we played back in those days. I remember C-USA being good, but they weren't a bunch of Hoss teams who you knew could shut down the paint.

and you say you want to see what fortson does...
I already know what Fortson would do, the guy was completely limited and predictable. My problem is that his competition was not the same as ours now and I think he wouldn't fare as well against what we face today. Which is why I think calling on his name liked he'd be super man is a waste of time.

Teams are bigger, stronger, longer and more athletic in our conference now. In the time he was at Cincinnati, all we did was survive tourny games and then lose in the second round, where was his dominant performance there?
I don't recall him being triple teams by OOC foes.

C-USA back then was essentially the A-10. That's reality. We were consistantly over-rated and if you look at the time Huggins had his best squads we never once beat a higher seed than us. That says a lot.
You take away the one final four team and what you're left with is a lot of hoopla.



id like to see what gates does against a c-usa triple team. mick has to announce


Mick never shuts his mouth, Bob Huggins and Mick Cronin are two different people and their personalities cannot be compared, unlike Fortson and Gates. Danny Fortson dunked on short ass skinny mid major teams and couldn't shoot a jump shot if it was 5 feet away and no one else was on the floor. NBA teams realized that and that's why his pro career was a wash.
He was strong, but he wasn't anything special as a ball player.

I think Yancy would shoot it over their heads before the triple team ever formed, such is the advantage of having a ball player rather than just an athlete on your team.
 
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What on gods earth are you smoking? Whatever it is, put that shit down. Fortson was nonathletic. He never dunked on anybody. He was the most complete post player UC has had in the modern era. He was a two time all american, while being a consensus first team all american his junior year. In three years, he became the schools second all time scoring leader. For being nonathletic and "predictable", he sure found a way to score.

Oh, and btw, during Fortson's sophomore year, he had to go against two forwards who were lottery picks. He played against other NBA forwards in Conference USA (and GMW by the way) as well.

You are so far off your rocker it's not even funny. It's obvious you are too young to remember Fortson.
 
Jinxy I suggest you just stop posting. Fortson wasn't that athletic and I never recall him "dunking all over" everyone. If anyone needs to see some film on Danny it is you.
 
In the time he was at Cincinnati, all we did was survive tourny games and then lose in the second round, where was his dominant performance there?

no one here will be able to convince you that C-USA in the mid 90's was anything better than d-3 high school basketball, so i will stop addressing that point.

uc went to the elite 8 in 1996. they blew out GT (marbury/harpring) in the sweet 16 and blew out temple (marc jackson, pepe sanchez) in the round of 32- both by 15+ point margins. were in not for a few late daggers by dante jones, uc was headed to the final 4. not sure how that is determined to be "survive"- but it was a dominating performance up to the elite 8 loss.
 
What on gods earth are you smoking? Whatever it is, put that shit down. Fortson was nonathletic.


He lead the NBA in defensive and offensive rebounding. Being athletic doesn't simply mean jumping ability. He wasn't a great rebounder simply because he was always in the right place...
 
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Jinxy I suggest you just stop posting. Fortson wasn't that athletic and I never recall him "dunking all over"

Go rewatch the shootout at cincinnati gardens where he scored 40 on X. Plenty of it there... I should know, I was at the fucking thing. :D
 
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