NCAA Treatment of UC versus UK

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It is being reported that UK and Calipari's turkish recruit Enes Kanter received more than $100,000 dollars over three years internationally. UK is awaiting the NCAA ruling on Kanter and his eligibility. This is going to be interesting to see what happens. Anyone remember Hernol Hal? I remember he was deemed ineligible by the NCAA at the last minute before the season started due to receiving moneys internationally. Does the NCAA have the balls to deny UK and Calipari a major recruit? The NCAA had no issues stripping UC of a recruit, and hopefully UK will experience the same outcome. UC could have really used Hall in the rebuilding process and benefited from his play. UK doesnt even need this kid. They are stacked beyond belief.
NCAA... do the right thing. Be consistent. Even if it is UK and Calipari.
Go Bearcats!
 
nparker1 said:
It is being reported that UK and Calipari's turkish recruit Enes Kanter received more than $100,000 dollars over three years internationally. UK is awaiting the NCAA ruling on Kanter and his eligibility. This is going to be interesting to see what happens. Anyone remember Hernol Hal? I remember he was deemed ineligible by the NCAA at the last minute before the season started due to receiving moneys internationally. Does the NCAA have the balls to deny UK and Calipari a major recruit? The NCAA had no issues stripping UC of a recruit, and hopefully UK will experience the same outcome. UC could have really used Hall in the rebuilding process and benefited from his play. UK doesnt even need this kid. They are stacked beyond belief.
NCAA... do the right thing. Be consistent. Even if it is UK and Calipari.
Go Bearcats!
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Did Hall even receive money? I thought the issue was that he played on a team of professionals and the NCAA has some stupid rule that even if a player is not compensated, he is deemed a professional if he plays on a team with professionals who are being compensated for those games. Maybe that was Adam H but I thought this issue pertained to Hernol Hall.
 
JasonS said:
Did Hall even receive money? I thought the issue was that he played on a team of professionals and the NCAA has some stupid rule that even if a player is not compensated, he is deemed a professional if he plays on a team with professionals who are being compensated for those games. Maybe that was Adam H but I thought this issue pertained to Hernol Hall.
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Now that you mention it, I think you are correct. If so, the NCAA should have no choice but to reject this Kanter kid. We will see I guess. Although I will not be surprised if the NCAA overlooks this for a big school like UK.
Good memory.
Go Bearcats!
 
Two issues I will like to see.

1) The consistancy of the rulings.
2) The timing of the rulings. Seems to me whenever this issue comes up for other schools it is resolved in an expeditious manner. With UC, the NCAA seems to wait until the last possible minute so they can give the finger before they can make any adjustments.
 
If this kid got paid, he won't see the court. The NCAA is very consistent about that.

Adam H. was the one that lost a year because he played on a professional team, James White lost a few games (maybe one) because he played on a professional team (And One league for one game). I believe Hernol Hall was ineligible because the school he went to wasn't in very good academic standing and he took English as a second language and didn't have four years of English credits. He was never declared academically eligible. Honestly I think UC has had bad luck with the NCAA because they've really taken a chance in some cases. If going in you have to get the NCAA's permission to get a kid eligible you shouldn't expect a good outcome.
 
david aka the TYZ said:
If this kid got paid, he won't see the court. The NCAA is very consistent about that.

Adam H. was the one that lost a year because he played on a professional team, James White lost a few games (maybe one) because he played on a professional team (And One league for one game). I believe Hernol Hall was ineligible because the school he went to wasn't in very good academic standing and he took English as a second language and didn't have four years of English credits. He was never declared academically eligible. Honestly I think UC has had bad luck with the NCAA because they've really taken a chance in some cases. If going in you have to get the NCAA's permission to get a kid eligible you shouldn't expect a good outcome.
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No, it was a similar situation with Hall, playing on organized pro tea, but it was his AGE that makes this situation different. I'm assuming Kanter is under 21?
http://www.gobearcats.com/sports/m-baskbl/spec-rel/111806aaa.html
 
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I believe Kanter is 18. But Hall didn't get paid, Kanter did which is fact. Also, it is very unlikely that Kanter sticks around if he can't play this year.
 
Hall was academic issues. Adam H. played on a pro team but didn't get paid which is why he lost a year (same amount of time he played on a team that had other people paid). If the kid got paid he will lose his amateur status and thus will be ineligible.
 
Hall's issue wasn't academic. Hall played on the Costa Rican national team which was considered a professional team.
 
Just to clear things up, the money in question was $33 K that was set aside for educational purposes. The ruling was based on what "necessary and proper" expenses were (grey area not defined by NCAA), and the NCAA deemed that these were not necessary and proper. It has nothing to do with salary.

Also, the rules are different now, you formerly had to sit out a game in college for every pro game you played pro. Now, that rule has been rescinded.
 
david aka the TYZ said:
Hall was academic issues. Adam H. played on a pro team but didn't get paid which is why he lost a year (same amount of time he played on a team that had other people paid). If the kid got paid he will lose his amateur status and thus will be ineligible.
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"The NCAA determined that Hall had exhausted his eligibility due to Rule 14.2.3.5, which assesses a season of eligibility for each 12-month period that the individual competed in organized outside competition after the individual's 21st birthday. In addition to his two seasons of junior college competition at Lon Morris College, Hall, 24, played on the Costa Rica national team and on a team in Nicarugua."
 
TheLongHaul said:
Hall's issue wasn't academic. Hall played on the Costa Rican national team which was considered a professional team.
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nerf said:
"The NCAA determined that Hall had exhausted his eligibility due to Rule 14.2.3.5, which assesses a season of eligibility for each 12-month period that the individual competed in organized outside competition after the individual's 21st birthday. In addition to his two seasons of junior college competition at Lon Morris College, Hall, 24, played on the Costa Rica national team and on a team in Nicarugua."
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I stand corrected. I'm thinking of someone else. Who was the kid from Miami that was supposed to come in but it was determined his high school English credits didn't count?
 
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