UC President Ono offers full ride to Kim's sons

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Wonder if he does same for Sam kids.

Good question. My guess is it would be a conflict of interest or even a bribe somehow to even offer it in the same manner, but I think in a settlement it could and maybe should be offered. One way or the other UC will be paying his family a ton of money.

I'm glad this cop was wearing a body cam and we got to see what happened. I have alot of respect for Ono and I have full confidence he will handle this situation in the right way. I expect changes to be made regarding training and the jurisdiction UC officers will have. I was shocked to learn UC officers not only could pull people over off campus but that they had guns. I don't know why but I always assumed UC cops were more private security than real cops (not to demean them or put them down).
 
Good question. My guess is it would be a conflict of interest or even a bribe somehow to even offer it in the same manner, but I think in a settlement it could and maybe should be offered. One way or the other UC will be paying his family a ton of money.

I'm glad this cop was wearing a body cam and we got to see what happened. I have alot of respect for Ono and I have full confidence he will handle this situation in the right way. I expect changes to be made regarding training and the jurisdiction UC officers will have. I was shocked to learn UC officers not only could pull people over off campus but that they had guns. I don't know why but I always assumed UC cops were more private security than real cops (not to demean them or put them down).
Campus police are the real deal. UC already got hit with massive lawsuit in 2011 from death of taser. UC police no longer use tasers because of that. I predict an record breaking lawsuit up in 20+ once it's all said and done. UC going to take big hit off this.
 
Campus police are the real deal. UC already got hit with massive lawsuit in 2011 from death of taser. UC police no longer use tasers because of that. I predict an record breaking lawsuit up in 20+ once it's all said and done. UC going to take big hit off this.

Yeah I'm afraid you're right.


EDIT: Although come to think of it, with UC being a public/state school, it will probably be the taxpayers footing the bill like it would be for any other cop. Especially if they're certified (probably not the right term) by the state of Ohio to enforce Ohio laws.
 
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Yeah I'm afraid you're right.


EDIT: Although come to think of it, with UC being a public/state school, it will probably be the taxpayers footing the bill like it would be for any other cop. Especially if they're certified (probably not the right term) by the state of Ohio to enforce Ohio laws.

His family is more than likely going to sue uc,Cincinnati and state.
 
I thought it was interesting when the other day, the Enquirer reported heated meetings with community church groups and leaders over the shooting. One man indicted the meetings were heated, another did not think so. In addition, the community leaders suggested a full and complete investigation and full compensation for the victim's family. Not sure I remember the last time a community group of activists suggested full compensation. My concerns with the victim are as follows:

-arrest record of over 90 arrests in Cincinnati Police records. That does not even suggest all of the crimes he committed that he was not arrested for that he also carried out.

-drug dealing. Not sure, but most people don't carry around 2 pounds of pot on them and not deal. He also had 2$600.00 dollars so my guess is he has already made some deals. He was dealing drugs. Maybe officer Tensing realized that and saw something suspicious and decided to pull him over on the minor license plate violation. Also one must consider all the lives he may have negatively affected because of his drug dealing.

-victim failed to get out of the car after requests by the officer. That in and of itself is a violation. He was uncooperative during the entire period of time.

-The prosecution is making it's case to the public calling Tensing's actions as stupid and of poor judgement.

Concerns with Police officer actions:

-officer in general reacted too quickly in shooting driver

-fatal shots maybe could have been avoided. Could have possibly let him go, however, he may have discovered and know more than the general public as to why he pulled him over. For instance, prior to the stop, Tensing may have witnessed Debose dealing drugs somewhere near campus. We all know that kind of thing happens up there more than it should. When and after the suspicious behavior, he decided to pull over Debose and question him about his license and check further on him.

-may not have been trained properly on use of new guns
 
I thought it was interesting when the other day, the Enquirer reported heated meetings with community church groups and leaders over the shooting. One man indicted the meetings were heated, another did not think so. In addition, the community leaders suggested a full and complete investigation and full compensation for the victim's family. Not sure I remember the last time a community group of activists suggested full compensation. My concerns with the victim are as follows:

-arrest record of over 90 arrests in Cincinnati Police records. That does not even suggest all of the crimes he committed that he was not arrested for that he also carried out.

-drug dealing. Not sure, but most people don't carry around 2 pounds of pot on them and not deal. He also had 2$600.00 dollars so my guess is he has already made some deals. He was dealing drugs. Maybe officer Tensing realized that and saw something suspicious and decided to pull him over on the minor license plate violation. Also one must consider all the lives he may have negatively affected because of his drug dealing.

-victim failed to get out of the car after requests by the officer. That in and of itself is a violation. He was uncooperative during the entire period of time.

-The prosecution is making it's case to the public calling Tensing's actions as stupid and of poor judgement.

Concerns with Police officer actions:

-officer in general reacted too quickly in shooting driver

-fatal shots maybe could have been avoided. Could have possibly let him go, however, he may have discovered and know more than the general public as to why he pulled him over. For instance, prior to the stop, Tensing may have witnessed Debose dealing drugs somewhere near campus. We all know that kind of thing happens up there more than it should. When and after the suspicious behavior, he decided to pull over Debose and question him about his license and check further on him.

-may not have been trained properly on use of new guns
bearcat8920 The 90 arrest are not convictions. How many of the 90 was he found guilty of?
 
good point. We don't know that either. I would assume many are convictions.
The other point is if he was stopped that many times without incident why was this different? Doesn't seem like he was a threat to the safety of the officers who arrested him previously. It also seems both sides are trying the case in the media. How else would we know about the victims past. Just can not reconcile in my mind that the officer couldn't have handled this situation differently. I'm a civilian and I can think of a number of different solutions. He could have shot the tires. I know law enforcement is a tough job. I personally think they should be paid more and trained better. I also think they should not be used to generate revenue or have quotas. It's always puzzled me why the police hide on the highway if the mission was to provide safer roads, wouldn't the best practice be to be out in open where people can see you and slow down. Lots of people being locked up these days. The prison industry is a money making business.
 
Many good points. I also think many things could have been done differently and successfully without killing the driver and stopping him at the same time. One major problem that I see is that many neighborhoods are not safe to travel into. Twenty years ago, we never had this problem. However, now, I won't travel to some areas including Avondale, Roselawn, Bond Hill and Walnut hills as well as Evanston. No thank you. The politicians in Cincinnati tell us crime has been better with the exception of the past year, but we all know it's not true. Too many mentally ill people roaming around our city with no treatment and assistance, county commissioners don't want new jails because that means thousands of new union employees, so the solution is to allow them to walk the streets. Just like Deters son, when the commissioners loved ones are attacked, we will see action. Look how long it took the police to find Deter son's attackers. Not long at all. Can't seem to find others because many in the neighborhoods won't talk out of fear for their lives. witness protection plans are pretty much a thing of the past.
 
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