What has to happen for UC to WIN?

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dp3113 said:
tire holloway out with the press, don't let him control the game late. also- limit xu's perimeter shots- they have a penchant for shooting ridiculously well in the shootout, particularly dante jackson.
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I agree with some of this. Tire Tu out the whole game, make someone else win it for X. As for perimeter shooting, X is shooting horribly so I don't think that will be a huge factor. Someone also said UC can't let X get to the free throw line, I don't know if that's accurate. They aren't as good of a free throw team as they have been in the past.

If I'm Mick, I get the ball down low to Yancey early and often. If they can get the bigs in foul trouble they can really dominate the game.
 
Seriously though we need to play our game. If we avoid a "off game" I really like our chances.

If we dont play bad and Xavier doesn't go nuts I really like our chances.

I will be extremely disappointed if we lose this year. No reason for it.
 
I would say the keys to the game would be to attack Tu off the dribble, they need to force him to defend and need to go at him early and often, and secondly they need to do what they have been doing and defend the hell out of them. I like UC's chances if they show up any way.....
 
Could this be the ratoinal thread, while the other thread is for the "rivalry speak?"

I was surprised to see how well UC has shot the ball from the perimiter. That scares me as an X fan.
 
Thegreatone said:
Seriously though we need to play our game. If we avoid a "off game" I really like our chances.

If we dont play bad and Xavier doesn't go nuts I really like our chances.

I will be extremely disappointed if we lose this year. No reason for it.
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I really think this is UC's game to lose. Get frease in foul trouble early- while many of you think he isnt a threat at all- he at the very least is a decent threat down low. Get him on the bench and X has no threat in the paint.

I think if UC throws a mixture of defenses at X it would help them in a big way. Xavier has had a lot of dumb turn overs this year- mixing up the defense will confuse the muskies and would make the TO's much worse IMO.

Rebound- I think rebounding will be key for both teams.

----------I agree, rational thread. Leave trash talk to the other one--------
 
Kingsley Court said:
Could this be the ratoinal thread, while the other thread is for the "rivalry speak?"

I was surprised to see how well UC has shot the ball from the perimiter. That scares me as an X fan.
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To add to the bolded statement, it is not just one or two guys shooting well. It is 4 or 5 guys. That should be the part that really scares X.

UC needs to limit XU's free throws. Not because they shoot them well (they really don't) but because it breaks up the flow of the game and gets UC's bigs in foul trouble. UC goes on their runs when they make a couple shots, put the press/trap on and force the tempo to go to a blistering pace. That won't happen if there are a ton of fouls called, especially early, in this game. UC needs to go inside to Yancy early and let him get going.
 
As much as I don't think Frease is all that good he brings an element that Robinson/Taylor doesnt. He is a big body that won't just let Yancy back down and dunk. X needs Frease to play well on defense without fouling.
 
Tire Holloway out is exactly the right answer. He is incredibly good, but he is only one man. The rest of the team wouldn't have a chance against UC, particularly considering Redford's absence. If we can tire him out or get him in foul trouble it won't be a win for UC, it will be an absolute bloodbath.
 
Thegreatone said:
As much as I don't think Frease is all that good he brings an element that Robinson/Taylor doesnt. He is a big body that won't just let Yancy back down and dunk. X needs Frease to play well on defense without fouling.
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I think Mclean actually might guard Yancey if Frease gets in foul trouble. That would open up things for Thomas, but I would rather have things open for Thomas than Yancey. I think Mclean can keep up, speed wise with him and Mclean is a good athlete. Much better then Robinson and..ahem..Taylor.
 
adrock said:
Tire Holloway out is exactly the right answer. He is incredibly good, but he is only one man. The rest of the team wouldn't have a chance against UC, particularly considering Redford's absence. If we can tire him out or get him in foul trouble it won't be a win for UC, it will be an absolute bloodbath.
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oh yeah--Holloway some how gets in foul trouble and doesnt get AT THE VERY LEAST 30 mins of PT- UC owns the game.

K-court- I agree. I think Mclean may guard Yancy a bit.

also something to note- last few games Frease has come off the bench (to save him from early foul trouble i guess, or to bring in a threat off the bench?) Im interested to see if Mack does that for this game
 
adrock said:
Tire Holloway out is exactly the right answer. He is incredibly good, but he is only one man. The rest of the team wouldn't have a chance against UC, particularly considering Redford's absence. If we can tire him out or get him in foul trouble it won't be a win for UC, it will be an absolute bloodbath.
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You know, it's kind of surprising watching X all year, I can't remember a game where Tu was in serious foul trouble. I may be forgetting a game, but it is shocking how he can play so many minutes without being in serious foul trouble. If UC does get him in foul trouble, I don't see how X could keep it close.

I also wonder if Dante will show up or not. In games he has shown up, he only has for a half of the game. If he is on from three, it would be a huge help for X (obviously.) He has had some good games against UC in the past, but I wouldn't be surprised if he has a horrible one on Thursday. He and Lyons are just to inconsistent.
 
Kingsley Court said:
I agree with some of this. Tire Tu out the whole game, make someone else win it for X. As for perimeter shooting, X is shooting horribly so I don't think that will be a huge factor. Someone also said UC can't let X get to the free throw line, I don't know if that's accurate. They aren't as good of a free throw team as they have been in the past.

If I'm Mick, I get the ball down low to Yancey early and often. If they can get the bigs in foul trouble they can really dominate the game.
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my point is, it doesnt matter how good of a shooting team XU is, they always hit shots versus UC.
 
All that has to happen for UC to win is for UC to show up and play like they have played the first 14 games.
 
I think the goal of wearing down Xavier is obvious. UC needs to make everything Xavier does difficult. I don't expect an all out trapping press because Holloway and Lyons are quick with the ball and that could result in too many easy baskets for X, but I do expect ball pressure every single dribble that is taken. We also need to make them work hard on defense and on the glass.

Getting X into foul trouble also is very beneficial, although this is a double edge sword. One, UC is not that deep down low. We can't afford much foul trouble either. I don't want to have to rely on Biggie getting minutes in this game. Secondly, Xavier is a pretty good foul shooting team and Holloway is especially good at getting to the foul line. A ticky tack game probably benefits UC, but it does have its drawback.

We need to keep our cool. X is going to be emotional. They will be talking a lot of shit. We can't get sucked into it. I don't really think this will be a problem with this team though. Every time they have been challenged so far, they have responded with with clear focus. I expect the same.

Hopefully we can win the battle of the glass pretty convincingly so that shooting (either a poor night from us or a great night from them) isn't as big of a deal. If we dominate the glass, I think it will really help us settle into the game and play confidently.
 
Not Guilty said:
Getting X into foul trouble also is very beneficial, although this is a double edge sword. One, UC is not that deep down low. We can't afford much foul trouble either. I don't want to have to rely on Biggie getting minutes in this game. Secondly, Xavier is a pretty good foul shooting team and Holloway is especially good at getting to the foul line. A ticky tack game probably benefits UC, but it does have its drawback.

We need to keep our cool. X is going to be emotional. They will be talking a lot of shit. We can't get sucked into it. I don't really think this will be a problem with this team though. Every time they have been challenged so far, they have responded with with clear focus. I expect the same.
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I don't have the stats with me right now, but I'm not as comfortable as I have been in the past about X free throw shooting. I think Tu is great, other than that I'm not thrilled with them from the line.

As for keeping your cool, I wouldn't be shocked to see a few T's in this game. It will be an emotional game, and physical, for X's sake, I hope they keep the whistles in their pockets (except when Tu drives :) )
 
Xavier shoots 72% from the line, which ranks 77th in the country. Also, late in the game when both teams are likely to be in the bonus, Tu will have the ball a lot. If the game is called tightly and it is a close game, this could really hurt UC.
 

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