'14 SG Elijah Stewart

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I keep hearing west coast from people on this forum. Yes he is from the west coast however did we ever stop to think he wants to play elsewhere. Look almost every recruit wants to play in front of family but sometimes they want to see other parts of the country and get away from the pressures of home.

Being that he originally committed to a school close to home and only opened it up after they lost their coach I don't think it's all that surprising people aren't putting much stock in the "he's looking to get away" theory.

 

[JackBauer151]

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2014 SG Elijah Stewart (Westchester HS) will visit USC this weekend, source told @CBSSports. Cincinnati and Oklahoma State also in mix.

 

[Ryno99]

He would be a good get, but my guess is they are telling him he would red shirt this year if they bring him in. Which IMO would be good for him, but no kid wants to hear that in recruiting.

 

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hope we land him. i'm not at all impressed with the video I've seen of Shreiner

 

[ucdave]

He would be a good get, but my guess is they are telling him he would red shirt this year if they bring him in. Which IMO would be good for him, but no kid wants to hear that in recruiting.

I really doubt they tell any prospective recruits that they will redshirt. I'm sure that isn't even discussed until basketball practices begin. Your right, no kid would want to hear that in recruiting. So why bring it up in the first place? That would be foolish.

 

[WAITE HOYT 2]

I really doubt they tell any prospective recruits that they will redshirt. In sure that isn't discussed until basketball practices begin. Your right, no kid would want to hear that in recruiting. So bring it up in the first place? That would be foolish.

absolutely right!!! If I'm a recruit I better be hearing they think i have to talent to come in and compete for PT from day 1. I hardly think a good recruiting speech would be we think you could earn some PT after a year as a red shirt.

 

[BearcatNation54]

I think he could take our team to the next level in the coming years with his scoring ability. I want him!

 

[#BearcatNation]

I really doubt they tell any prospective recruits that they will redshirt. I'm sure that isn't even discussed until basketball practices begin. Your right, no kid would want to hear that in recruiting. So why bring it up in the first place? That would be foolish.

Not to mention, who says he'd redshirt? We need a scoring wing right now. He is just that.

 

[Ryno99]

I really doubt they tell any prospective recruits that they will redshirt. I'm sure that isn't even discussed until basketball practices begin. Your right, no kid would want to hear that in recruiting. So why bring it up in the first place? That would be foolish.

I understand your thought makes sense, but it just isn't the case, think about the negative it would be to recruit a kid saying you're going to play then say well we wanted to Redshirt you all along. I know for a fact at times a red shirt is discussed in recruiting and I have it on pretty good info that it has been discussed with Stewart. It is the fair thing to do, and you sell it from other angles, it allows you to learn and be a better player in the long run which gives you a better shot at the NBA in the end.

 

[ucdave]

I understand your thought makes sense, but it just isn't the case, think about the negative it would be to recruit a kid saying you're going to play then say well we wanted to Redshirt you all along. I know for a fact at times a red shirt is discussed in recruiting and I have it on pretty good info that it has been discussed with Stewart. It is the fair thing to do, and you sell it from other angles, it allows you to learn and be a better player in the long run which gives you a better shot at the NBA in the end.

Thinking back on some of the previous red shirts, it seems as though Mick allows the player to decide in the end. He might suggest it, but it comes down to what the player decides to do. I know it was that way with Morman as well as SK. I think Morman was thinking it over when he broke his foot in practice and the decision was made for him.

 

[Ryno99]

Thinking back on some of the previous red shirts, it seems as though Mick allows the player to decide in the end. He might suggest it, but it comes down to what the player decides to do. I know it was that way with Morman as well as SK. I think Morman was thinking it over when he broke his foot in practice and the decision was made for him.

As I said I'm confident it has been discussed with Stewart, take it for what it's worth.

 

[WAITE HOYT 2]

I understand your thought makes sense, but it just isn't the case, think about the negative it would be to recruit a kid saying you're going to play then say well we wanted to Redshirt you all along. I know for a fact at times a red shirt is discussed in recruiting and I have it on pretty good info that it has been discussed with Stewart. It is the fair thing to do, and you sell it from other angles, it allows you to learn and be a better player in the long run which gives you a better shot at the NBA in the end.

you don't use red shirting in your recruiting speech. You allow the player to come in and compete for a spot. If in the end it doesn't look like he will garner much playing time that year you may suggest he red shirt and not waste a year of eligibility.

 

[WAITE HOYT 2]

As I said I'm confident it has been discussed with Stewart, take it for what it's worth.

if that is the case I don't hold out much he he lands here.

 

[JackBauer151]

you don't use red shirting in your recruiting speech. You allow the player to come in and compete for a spot. If in the end it doesn't look like he will garner much playing time that year you may suggest he red shirt and not waste a year of eligibility.

Coaches will use it in their pitches to recruits. It is very uncommon for a 4* recruit to hear that pitch. It's more typically used for high level athletes that have little basketball skill or big men who know they are going to need time to develop (Kelvin Gaines). Obviously many other reasons can factor into a redshirt such as playing time, injuries, academics ect. However to pitch a highly rated recruit on redshirting does not seem like a very good strategy seeing as there are going to be other high majors going after him and will be telling him about the playing time he could compete for.

 

[WAITE HOYT 2]

Coaches will use it in their pitches to recruits. It is very uncommon for a 4* recruit to hear that pitch. It's more typically used for high level athletes that have little basketball skill or big men who know they are going to need time to develop (Kelvin Gaines). Obviously many other reasons can factor into a redshirt such as playing time, injuries, academics ect. However to pitch a highly rated recruit on redshirting does not seem like a very good strategy seeing as there are going to be other high majors going after him and will be telling him about the playing time he could compete for.

I understand that Jack. Thanks for your response. I feel we are a program under Mick that isn't going after projects anymore. Another reason why Coaches don't like to use red shirting in recruitment is because they can't predict the future. Injuries and team make up changes things season to season. Suppose he red shirts and the next year he is injured or another player commits that changes the red shirts opportunity. Lots of reasons to avoid red shirting. Of course your scenario concerning Gaines is a very good reason to use it. Hopefully we have grown beyond that strategy.

 

[ccmbearcat]

Not to mention, who says he'd redshirt? We need a scoring wing right now. He is just that.

Of course. If Mick is lucky enough to land him, there is zero chance he will redshirt. With Lawrence gone there will very likely be no redshirts this year unless there is a major injury.

 

[JackBauer151]

Of course. If Mick is lucky enough to land him, there is zero chance he will redshirt. With Lawrence gone there will very likely be no redshirts this year unless there is a major injury.

There absolutely is a chance he could redshirt. There is also a chance someone on the front line could redshirt as well. There are 5 players for two spots. I dont see two redshirts but if we have 13 scholarship players there are going to be some odd men out. There simply is not enough minutes for everyone. I would be shocked not to see a redshirt if we have 13.

 

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Looks like USC is in the lead on this one. Hope I'm way off. Would love to see him at UC. No way he redshirts

 

[dp3113]

Of course. If Mick is lucky enough to land him, there is zero chance he will redshirt. With Lawrence gone there will very likely be no redshirts this year unless there is a major injury.

you think they are going to have a 12-13 man rotation? it is difficult to play 10 people, let alone 12-13

there will absolutely be at least 1 redshirt without any injuries. Injuries obviously could force more than that.

 

[JasonS]

you think they are going to have a 12-13 man rotation? it is difficult to play 10 people, let alone 12-13

there will absolutely be at least 1 redshirt without any injuries. Injuries obviously could force more than that.

I don't necessarily disagree but I think people should wait until after practices and exhibition games before trying to guess who is redshirting. I bet Mick doesn't even know at this point. A lot can happen between now and the start of the season.