Yep, the guy left. I’m not sure why we should want him to succeed and long for him. He left. It’s over.
You have a weird way of showing support. If you got a new wife or girlfriend and constantly criticized their every move and brought up how successful your exes were, I’m guessing they wouldn’t think that’s supportive.I still support Brannen. I mean don’t have another choice.
Support isn’t a pass for awful performance. I’ll still go to the game Sunday. I’ll still be there screaming my lungs out.
But I will pretend that this season is a success. It’s a straight up flop
That’s what it is... and UCLA is a flop to.
But my main point was playing elite defense gives you an incredibly high floor. And I’d like to see John Brannen figure that end of the game out.
He said that this teams identity is defense. Not me. So by his own standard we lack a solid identity.
Is Jarron hurt or not? If so, does that effect the performance of the team? Yes or no?It doesn’t matter. Both our previous coaches set the tone of demanding effort and defense and both proved it works.
I still support Brannen. I mean don’t have another choice.
Support isn’t a pass for awful performance. I’ll still go to the game Sunday. I’ll still be there screaming my lungs out.
But I will pretend that this season is a success. It’s a straight up flop
That’s what it is... and UCLA is a flop to.
But my main point was playing elite defense gives you an incredibly high floor. And I’d like to see John Brannen figure that end of the game out.
He said that this teams identity is defense. Not me. So by his own standard we lack a solid identity.
You buy tickets and support the program. I respect that. But a lot of your points and arguments on this website lack understanding of CJB's situation.
Here are our current Kenpom stats:
Adj O: 60
Adj D: 52
Not great....but I don't think any of those metrics would be categorized as "Awful". And yeah, they have had some bad performances on the defensive end. But that's life as a first year coach at a program....at a higher level. It happens. Mick goes to UCLA after over a decade of competing at UC. He has way more experience in implementing that defense. It took him until 2010 for UC to have an ADj Top 50 defense that you crave so much.
Again. It's a process. He's not the same coach that he will be in 3 years. That's the point. Quit defining him and constantly complaining.
I literally got a user name after 15 years of reading this board because of you. Lol
You have a weird way of showing support. If you got a new wife or girlfriend and constantly criticized their every move and brought up how successful your exes were, I’m guessing they wouldn’t think that’s supportive.
You buy tickets and support the program. I respect that. But a lot of your points and arguments on this website lack understanding of CJB's situation.
Here are our current Kenpom stats:
Adj O: 60
Adj D: 52
Not great....but I don't think any of those metrics would be categorized as "Awful". And yeah, they have had some bad performances on the defensive end. But that's life as a first year coach at a program....at a higher level. It happens. Mick goes to UCLA after over a decade of competing at UC. He has way more experience in implementing that defense. It took him until 2010 for UC to have an ADj Top 50 defense that you crave so much.
Again. It's a process. He's not the same coach that he will be in 3 years. That's the point. Quit defining him and constantly complaining.
I literally got a user name after 15 years of reading this board because of you. Lol
Not the best analogy, but not terrible. I would say decent.I’m not married to John Brannen.
Terrible analogy
Best way to show support in college athletics ?
Spend money. Of which I do every single year.
Cuddling him On message boards isn’t support. It’s not action. It’s like arguing political activism on Facebook. It’s nothing if you aren’t acting on it.
I speak my mind on message boards and show my support with my wallet.
RespectGlad you could join.
See Im out here recruiting for bearcattalk
Even if it’s to fight with me.
They call that user engagement by any means necessary
You’ve said numerous times times you are supportive of brannen but every time there is a bump in the road, you bring up UCLA’s success or talking about why he isn’t a great coach.
You’ve also said to not blame Jarron because he’s hurt but you still continue to hold the fact the Jarron is hurt against brannen. How would have mick done with a hurt Jarron? Honestly. You can’t have it both ways. Either he’s hurt or not. If he is, like you said, that not brannen fault.
First off, it’s a different team. We don’t have brooks or a healthy Jarron. From what I’m told. Also, it’s odd that you think this team would definitely be a top 25 team this year, with or without Jarron. He was healthy as a horse last year and we were barely a finge top 25 team. The fact is if Jarron is healthy we at least win 2 of the 4 quad 3 losses. Maybe all 4 and it’s not even a discussion.We've talked about Cronin plenty when there weren't bumps in the road. Cronin is UC's former coach, many of us are interested to see how he does (whether we are hoping for him to succeed or fail), those who dislike Cronin consistently brought up every Cronin loss early in the year.
Every team has bumps in the road, I am confident this team would be top 25 if Cronin were still here, regardless of Jarron's injury or lack there of - though Nysier Brooks still being here would be the biggest factor. Brannen is supposed to be a great offensive mind, so he should be able to find other guys way to score.
The lack of effort that seems to be plaguing this team lately isn't just Jarron. Maybe with Jarron healthy we squeak out a couple more wins, but the fact is we shouldn't be letting Q3 teams stay close regardless of Jarron's health.
We still have time to turn it around, UCLA still has time to blow it. But looking at the last 10 games, it's hard to think UCLA isn't the better team. Cronin went to a team known for not giving effort or playing D and is now getting both effort and defense at a high-level (though it did take him a while), Brannen came to a team known for giving constant effort and defense and is now getting neither at a high level.
Not the best analogy, but not terrible. I would say decent.
Is Jarron hurt?
First off, it’s a different team. We don’t have brooks or a healthy Jarron. From what I’m told. Also, it’s odd that you think this team would definitely be a top 25 team this year, with or without Jarron. He was healthy as a horse last year and we were barely a finge top 25 team. The fact is if Jarron is healthy we at least win 2 of the 4 quad 3 losses. Maybe all 4 and it’s not even a discussion.
I agree, the effort is terrible and we aren’t good right now. My point is, you can’t give Jarron a pass for not boxing out and turnovers because he’s hurt, then not take that into consideration when talking about the teams success. He’s pretty good when healthy. He makes a world of difference when he’s healthy.
I’m assuming he is hurt.
But That had nothing to do with our teams collective defense and defensive strategy.
We've talked about Cronin plenty when there weren't bumps in the road. Cronin is UC's former coach, many of us are interested to see how he does (whether we are hoping for him to succeed or fail), those who dislike Cronin consistently brought up every Cronin loss early in the year.
Every team has bumps in the road, I am confident this team would be top 25 if Cronin were still here, regardless of Jarron's injury or lack there of - though Nysier Brooks still being here would be the biggest factor. Brannen is supposed to be a great offensive mind, so he should be able to find other guys way to score.
The lack of effort that seems to be plaguing this team lately isn't just Jarron. Maybe with Jarron healthy we squeak out a couple more wins, but the fact is we shouldn't be letting Q3 teams stay close regardless of Jarron's health.
We still have time to turn it around, UCLA still has time to blow it. But looking at the last 10 games, it's hard to think UCLA isn't the better team. Cronin went to a team known for not giving effort or playing D and is now getting both effort and defense at a high-level (though it did take him a while), Brannen came to a team known for giving constant effort and defense and is now getting neither at a high level.
Glad you could join.
See Im out here recruiting for bearcattalk
Even if it’s to fight with me.
They call that user engagement by any means necessary
Brannen isn't even running his preferred offensive system anymore because his best player didn't fit it very well. I think the adjustments made to get Jarron more involved have worked out pretty well.
When CJB has all his pieces in place he can run everything he wants and get every player involved. It will be back to motion offense. I am guessing his bench will be deeper with talent because he is not opposed to "recruiting over" a player or using grad transfers. So he will be able to bench a player for lack of effort and replace him with a capable scorer with fresh legs.
The best players will be on the floor not the most tenured veteran. This process will take more than this year or next to reach a high level. We had a chance this year but he's got limited options right now. Maybe he can still pull a rabbit out of a hat
No one is saying it isn’t disappointing but it’s a different team with a different coach. It isn’t going to translate perfectly. To say cronin would take this team with a hurt Jarron, to the tourney is questionable.Cronin typically goes 7-deep and still manages to get effort out of players. The being unable to put somebody else in seems more like an excuse of Brannen's not reality. There are other guys to put in, you have to trust them to do well enough and count on the improved play of rested players balancing it out.
I'm willing to give Brannen some time, but it's disappointing when last spring before Cronin left we were predicted to be a top 25 team and quite possibly a protected NCAA tournament seed. Now barring us turning it around very quickly (which is possible, but we can't play last we have the last 4 games) we are looking to 2022 for our next NCAA tournament - and a new coach/rebuild if Brannen can't get us there in 2022.
Who knows, maybe our energy levels and effort completely flip starting Sunday and we make the NCAA tournament this year. I'll be happy with that, though the inconsistency in play will still have me concerned.
As for grad transfers, hopefully he does better than he did this year if he's going to rely on grad transfers - though I believe he has stated he prefers not to recruit grad transfers. The only grad transfer of our three who has done semi-well is Jaevin and he still hasn't lived up to the hype.
Cronin typically goes 7-deep and still manages to get effort out of players. The being unable to put somebody else in seems more like an excuse of Brannen's not reality. There are other guys to put in, you have to trust them to do well enough and count on the improved play of rested players balancing it out.
I'm willing to give Brannen some time, but it's disappointing when last spring before Cronin left we were predicted to be a top 25 team and quite possibly a protected NCAA tournament seed. Now barring us turning it around very quickly (which is possible, but we can't play last we have the last 4 games) we are looking to 2022 for our next NCAA tournament - and a new coach/rebuild if Brannen can't get us there in 2022.
Who knows, maybe our energy levels and effort completely flip starting Sunday and we make the NCAA tournament this year. I'll be happy with that, though the inconsistency in play will still have me concerned.
As for grad transfers, hopefully he does better than he did this year if he's going to rely on grad transfers - though I believe he has stated he prefers not to recruit grad transfers. The only grad transfer of our three who has done semi-well is Jaevin and he still hasn't lived up to the hype.