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You can make excuses for every recruit. Why they are available, why we got them, who cares. Are they here or not. Maw looks good. Davenport will at least be Tre Scott level I think. And Harvey who knows. I like the his recruiting so far but you can pick it apart if you want. Especially since we don’t know what these players are yet.


Time and time again, we see that high level recruiting matters in the tourney.

I just don’t get why the school a few miles away can get 4 star after 4 star.

Why can’t we ?


I have high expectations for recruiting. A bunch of 3 stars is not what I’m expecting.

Especially with sooo much time available to play
 
Time and time again, we see that high level recruiting matters in the tourney.

I just don’t get why the school a few miles away can get 4 star after 4 star.

Why can’t we ?


I have high expectations for recruiting. A bunch of 3 stars is not what I’m expecting.

Especially with sooo much time available to play
The big East name is the biggest reason. It’s hard to get those guys within 6 months of taking a job. You have to recruit those guys for years. I didn’t expect him to come in and it start raining 4 stars.
 
Eason would be big. I also expect better recruiting but I like 3 star top 150 guys. Those guys turn into 4-5 stars over time. Just can’t have the misses like we have had in the past.
 
Time and time again, we see that high level recruiting matters in the tourney.

I just don’t get why the school a few miles away can get 4 star after 4 star.

Why can’t we ?


I have high expectations for recruiting. A bunch of 3 stars is not what I’m expecting.

Especially with sooo much time available to play

At XU, which is already a super small school, basketball is the only major sport so those kids literally walk around like Gods those 4 years they're there. At UC and other bigger schools that have football programs that's not the case. A lot of students don't even know who they are or assume they're on the bball team because they're really tall.

That actually makes a big difference for high school kids.
 
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At XU, which is already a super small school, basketball is the only major sport so those kids literally walk around like Gods those 4 years they're there. At UC and other bigger schools that have football programs that's not the case. A lot of students don't even know who they are or assume they're on the bball team because they're really tall.

That actually makes a big difference for high school kids.


Xu had been slowly building up to better recruits. Every hire they made was from the system so there were always the same targets. Plus they've made multiple ncaa tournament runs, and lets face it, that helps recruiting.

This didn't just start recently. Since 2010 (just quick look at 247 sports)

4-stars

Xavier - 20 signed

Cincinnati - 7 signed (plus 5 star Lawrence)


xavier is getting 2 a year on average and we get less than 1 a year on average.
 
Xu had been slowly building up to better recruits. Every hire they made was from the system so there were always the same targets. Plus they've made multiple ncaa tournament runs, and lets face it, that helps recruiting.

This didn't just start recently. Since 2010 (just quick look at 247 sports)

4-stars

Xavier - 20 signed

Cincinnati - 7 signed (plus 5 star Lawrence)


xavier is getting 2 a year on average and we get less than 1 a year on average.

Agreed
 
Xu had been slowly building up to better recruits. Every hire they made was from the system so there were always the same targets. Plus they've made multiple ncaa tournament runs, and lets face it, that helps recruiting.

This didn't just start recently. Since 2010 (just quick look at 247 sports)

4-stars

Xavier - 20 signed

Cincinnati - 7 signed (plus 5 star Lawrence)


xavier is getting 2 a year on average and we get less than 1 a year on average.
Winning in general helps a lot but winning in the tourney is a big part of it. One of the reasons Huggins was able to get that thing rolling. Gonzaga. I’ve always said we can get better players than we have been getting but you have to win. Not just regular season games. No one really cares about those.
 
MAW was a special circumstance because he his coach was fired

Davenport was literally v-tech and that’s it.. and it was mostly local ties to his prep school. He was not sought after in HS or prep and to be honest I see a lot of Trevor Moore in Davenport. A lot of energy, not a ton of basketball IQ

Gabe has major offers. But we had sign his low major brother to get him. We were the only school willing to take both on his major offer list

But his brother has a low major offer list.

Mikey Saunders is mid major offer list as well.


MAW is a high major player. I’m certain of that

But I’m not even close to sold on Davenport


The big one for me will be Tari Eason. We land him and keep Zach Harvey then it’s a good foundation


With Brannon coming into uc late and having to fill a roster for students leaving due to a coaching change, I don’t think Brannen did a horrible job at all. There were no point guards on the roster, I do not blame him for bringing in Davenport to fill a void at the last minute. The pool to get players for this year was very small and I was impressed he got the kids he did that late in the game to make up a roster. He gathered a team the best he could, now he’s trying to actually run an offense, not just pass around then iso. It will take time to get everyone on the same page.
 
What’s up with all the ads on this site, is this a college basketball thread or a porn site?
 
What’s up with all the ads on this site, is this a college basketball thread or a porn site?

To me it’s both.

But I use ghostry on my Mac to block ads and then use purify on my iPhone.

I haven’t seen an ad in years. And while I don’t mind financially supporting a site, I absolutely hate when ads become so bad that it kills the content
 
Winning in general helps a lot but winning in the tourney is a big part of it. One of the reasons Huggins was able to get that thing rolling. Gonzaga. I’ve always said we can get better players than we have been getting but you have to win. Not just regular season games. No one really cares about those.

You have to win but you also need a good recruiter. I wouldn't mind seeing us try again for a good recruiter in the off season but I don't know if we will have room for one. I think Brannen has done a pretty good job so far all things considered...but if we don't show some improvement it will get tougher. If we can land Eason it's going to give us a little breathing room for now. We need a solid HS big to build around. What we do with our late recruiting will be interesting. We will likely need a transfer big as well.
 
8-8 seems right with a semis loss in the conference tourney, doesn’t mean I’m given up on Johnny brannen, but it will take 2 years til he gets us back to the NCAA tourney
John Brannen the whole reason we in this mess. This team coming into the yr was one of the best in the nation. Whats up with the guys with 13 following their name on here, no matter what they are like iron sheet protecting the coach i just dont get it. Its amazing how uc just waists 3 decades of traditon for a guy from Kentucky. You know how i feel about confrence play and Tennessee is overrated, both teams certainly didnt play their best. Oh and that Davenport kid is all team spirit but not much production wise. Brannen is gonna need to recruit his ass off
 
John Brannen the whole reason we in this mess. This team coming into the yr was one of the best in the nation. Whats up with the guys with 13 following their name on here, no matter what they are like iron sheet protecting the coach i just dont get it. Its amazing how uc just waists 3 decades of traditon for a guy from Kentucky. You know how i feel about confrence play and Tennessee is overrated, both teams certainly didnt play their best. Oh and that Davenport kid is all team spirit but not much production wise. Brannen is gonna need to recruit his ass off
Anyone that wanted to fire the coach before the season started can’t be taken seriously.
I’m also not blaming a new coach for kids transferring. I know that’s crazy. Especially when everyone that transferred is terrible. Except brooks. I do blame mick for half the roster not being able to play basketball when brannen arrived.
 
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John Brannen the whole reason we in this mess. This team coming into the yr was one of the best in the nation. Whats up with the guys with 13 following their name on here, no matter what they are like iron sheet protecting the coach i just dont get it. Its amazing how uc just waists 3 decades of traditon for a guy from Kentucky. You know how i feel about confrence play and Tennessee is overrated, both teams certainly didnt play their best. Oh and that Davenport kid is all team spirit but not much production wise. Brannen is gonna need to recruit his ass off

Ummm. I think brannen is recruiting his ass off? Landed two for stars already? Gabe possibly moves to a 4 as well. Throw in MAW who looks to be a steal.
 
John Brannen the whole reason we in this mess. This team coming into the yr was one of the best in the nation. Whats up with the guys with 13 following their name on here, no matter what they are like iron sheet protecting the coach i just dont get it. Its amazing how uc just waists 3 decades of traditon for a guy from Kentucky. You know how i feel about confrence play and Tennessee is overrated, both teams certainly didnt play their best. Oh and that Davenport kid is all team spirit but not much production wise. Brannen is gonna need to recruit his ass off
If we're in a mess Brannen didn't cause it, he just took the job. The so called mess was caused by Cronin and half the team leaving.
 
John Brannen the whole reason we in this mess. This team coming into the yr was one of the best in the nation. Whats up with the guys with 13 following their name on here, no matter what they are like iron sheet protecting the coach i just dont get it. Its amazing how uc just waists 3 decades of traditon for a guy from Kentucky. You know how i feel about confrence play and Tennessee is overrated, both teams certainly didnt play their best. Oh and that Davenport kid is all team spirit but not much production wise. Brannen is gonna need to recruit his ass off

How on earth is this Brannens fault? He didn’t leave the coaching position late in the game! Transfers when coaches leave are the norm for lots of various reasons. I think he did one heck of a job filling a team out in such a short amount of time. His recruiting class next year is rather impressive with 2 more slots left. It takes time for freshmen to get acclimated to college that’s normal. It is going to take time. I think the future is in good shape. Coach k is not coming to uc.


One of the best teams in the country? How did you come up with that? They were good, but I think your over stretching. 30 year tradition? One and done in tourney?

Let’was Cronin a well received coach at first? No

Give the man a chance, and be realistic on what is going on and what is in his power
 
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