Cincinnati v. Ole Miss Emerald Coast Final

[WAITE HOYT 2]

You know it's really fun watching the team grow. Williams, Brooks and Scott are starting to have a bigger impact on the games. I really think as the season unwinds We will be able to look back at on their development as a key to how the year plays out. Right now you can see on occasion they are developing that instinctive quick twitch needed to excel at this level. Having played many sports and having kids that did very well in athletics, I often told them the best moves I ever made playing sports I couldn't tell them how it happen It just happened. Lots of it I'm sure was coaching, repetition and instincts. As a fan it doesn't get any better then seeing the light come on for a kid who bust his butt trying to get better. Example Gary Clark!!! It's why I could never envision myself a fan of a one and done program.

 

[WAITE HOYT 2]

I agree about Cane! I don’t like to bring up Huggins but the thing I most respected about him was how hard his kids played for him. Mick has my utmost respect for this same reason. This current team to a man is playing all out for each other and you see it especially during a timeout. The team is really rooting for each other the whole game. Players don’t play this hard for a coach they dislike.

the perception that Micks players don't like him is a ploy to undermine his effectiveness as a leader of our program. Kids work and play hard for him. They also rarely transfer and many graduate. Their level of intensity is a result of how hard he coaches and the expectations he sets for them. It also wouldn't work without the accountability he uses to reinforce his demands.

 

[Garybearcat]

the perception that Micks players don't like him is a ploy to undermine his effectiveness as a leader of our program. Kids work and play hard for him. They also rarely transfer and many graduate. Their level of intensity is a result of how hard he coaches and the expectations he sets for them. It also wouldn't work without the accountability he uses to reinforce his demands.

Isn’t that the lessons a college student athlete should be learning. I don’t think a player at the one and done schools will ever realize what it means to truly play your ass off.

 

[WAITE HOYT 2]

Isn’t that the lessons a college student athlete should be learning. I don’t think a player at the one and done schools will ever realize what it means to truly play your ass off.

I certainly hope so.

 

[Patrick Bateman]

the perception that Micks players don't like him is a ploy to undermine his effectiveness as a leader of our program. Kids work and play hard for him. They also rarely transfer and many graduate. Their level of intensity is a result of how hard he coaches and the expectations he sets for them. It also wouldn't work without the accountability he uses to reinforce his demands.

I have never heard of this perception that Micks players dont like him, where has this been documented?

 

[cincrulz11]

I have never heard of this perception that Micks players dont like him, where has this been documented?

nobody has ever said that. they've said he can rip their confidence away.

 

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nobody has ever said that. they've said he can rip their confidence away.

Or help get it back in a big way like Broome. For instance

 

[justinhub2003]

If mick’s players and people around him don’t like him.... then they sure are gluttons for punishment. Uc has some of the lowest transfer rates in high major college basketball.

Mick recruits kids who respond well to hard truths. Look at cane’s response to his first 2 games and being benched. He fought his way into the rotation again.

Meanwhile, Chris Mack was known as being a “players coach” and yet he seemed to always have a lot of kids transfer or never make it to campus.

My guess is that mick builds great relationships with his players off the court and then as soon as it’s winning time, they know it’s not going to be cupcakes and milkshakes anymore.

 

[cincrulz11]

can we give cane a bit more credit than that. benching or no benching he was never going to shoot 7% from the floor all season.



i'll also be willing to wager if moore is allowed to play again this season he won't finish the season shooting 0% from 3.

 

[WAITE HOYT 2]

can we give cane a bit more credit than that. benching or no benching he was never going to shoot 7% from the floor all season.



i'll also be willing to wager if moore is allowed to play again this season he won't finish the season shooting 0% from 3.

I don’t think Cane was ever benched. I also agree he was never going to shoot that bad. Coach wanted to get his attention on the defensive end of the floor and Cane responded very well.

Moore was a bit different in that his issue was conduct related without being in the game. His playing time had been reduced because others were playing better and he was in a slump. I hope he can put this behind him and start making a few shots. His skill outside shot would be a plus if he finds it.

 

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can we give cane a bit more credit than that. benching or no benching he was never going to shoot 7% from the floor all season.
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i'll also be willing to wager if moore is allowed to play again this season he won't finish the season shooting 0% from 3.

Of course. My point is you cant blame the coach for all the negative and give him no credit for anything positive. Seems like a common theme.

 

[justinhub2003]

can we give cane a bit more credit than that. benching or no benching he was never going to shoot 7% from the floor all season.



i'll also be willing to wager if moore is allowed to play again this season he won't finish the season shooting 0% from 3.

I’m not talking about his shooting.


I’m talking about his defensive effort. That’s what earns you minutes.

 

[waterhead]

can we give cane a bit more credit than that. benching or no benching he was never going to shoot 7% from the floor all season.



i'll also be willing to wager if moore is allowed to play again this season he won't finish the season shooting 0% from 3.

There were people in here writing off Broome after two games as an afterthought sub...10-15 minutes max. Coach hinted that he wanted to play Broome with Johnson and Jenifer with Williams. Fast forward. Johnson plays 12 minutes and 5 minutes the past two games and Broome goes for 32 and 24.

All of the sudden the excuse coach made has been basically exposed (by Cane) as more or less irrelevant. He is clearly the only other player outside of Cumberland who can make a play on demand and is necessary to have on the court (a lot). His effort may have increased on D a little but I doubt he was out there loafing.

Either way it's good to see Cane playing his style because it's fun to watch and it's productive. It's also good to see Brooks distancing himself from the pack and Fredericks getting the hang of it. These developments are pretty big. If Williams can hit 33% from 3 on the year that will be another big development.

I would like to see Diara get a few more minutes out there and Johnson in the upcoming games.

 

[cincrulz11]

There were people in here writing off Broome after two games as an afterthought sub...10-15 minutes max. Coach hinted that he wanted to play Broome with Johnson and Jenifer with Williams. Fast forward. Johnson plays 12 minutes and 5 minutes the past two games and Broome goes for 32 and 24.

All of the sudden the excuse coach made has been basically exposed (by Cane) as more or less irrelevant. He is clearly the only other player outside of Cumberland who can make a play on demand and is necessary to have on the court (a lot). His effort may have increased on D a little but I doubt he was out there loafing.

Either way it's good to see Cane playing his style because it's fun to watch and it's productive. It's also good to see Brooks distancing himself from the pack and Fredericks getting the hang of it. These developments are pretty big. If Williams can hit 33% from 3 on the year that will be another big development.

I would like to see Diara get a few more minutes out there and Johnson in the upcoming games.

diarra would get exposed way too much on the defensive side of the ball. and he's super raw on offense. mississippi went at him and scored twice in the 2 minutes he was in there. that probably wont help him get minutes in the future.

 

[waterhead]

diarra would get exposed way too much on the defensive side of the ball. and he's super raw on offense. mississippi went at him and scored twice in the 2 minutes he was in there. that probably wont help him get minutes in the future.

Yah...I don't want to see it in big games right now but would like to see him get a little experience when we can against the patsies. He really has some freakish length and athleticism for his height and of course a decent stroke. He's still pretty far off but he won't get any closer if we can't get him some decent minutes. He's behind Brooks and Scott for 2 years but I wouldn't mind seeing him move past Ellie at some point...maybe by next year.

 

[cincrulz11]

Yah...I don't want to see it in big games right now but would like to see him get a little experience when we can against the patsies. He really has some freakish length and athleticism for his height and of course a decent stroke. He's still pretty far off but he won't get any closer if we can't get him some decent minutes. He's behind Brooks and Scott for 2 years but I wouldn't mind seeing him move past Ellie at some point...maybe by next year.

i was actually really surprised to see him get in the game when he did. just wish he would have done better.

 

[STKohls]

There were people in here writing off Broome after two games as an afterthought sub...10-15 minutes max. Coach hinted that he wanted to play Broome with Johnson and Jenifer with Williams. Fast forward. Johnson plays 12 minutes and 5 minutes the past two games and Broome goes for 32 and 24.

All of the sudden the excuse coach made has been basically exposed (by Cane) as more or less irrelevant. He is clearly the only other player outside of Cumberland who can make a play on demand and is necessary to have on the court (a lot). His effort may have increased on D a little but I doubt he was out there loafing.

Either way it's good to see Cane playing his style because it's fun to watch and it's productive. It's also good to see Brooks distancing himself from the pack and Fredericks getting the hang of it. These developments are pretty big. If Williams can hit 33% from 3 on the year that will be another big development.

I would like to see Diara get a few more minutes out there and Johnson in the upcoming games.

One nice side effect of Cane and Cumberland frequently attacking off the dribble is that when Logan or Jenifer decide to attack it sometimes takes the defense by surprise. Both of them were able to get to the rim once or twice pretty easily and both also had a drive-dish for an easy assist. They can choose their spots when the defense is focused elsewhere. A great box out by Nsoseme on one of those layups should almost count as an assist. Also, all of the bigs seem to be rotating to the bucket looking for the ball when the guards are driving.

I think we all know the half-court offense isn't a great strength but I was pleasantly surprised at how many shots in the paint UC got in the tournament.

 

[WAITE HOYT 2]

There were people in here writing off Broome after two games as an afterthought sub...10-15 minutes max. Coach hinted that he wanted to play Broome with Johnson and Jenifer with Williams. Fast forward. Johnson plays 12 minutes and 5 minutes the past two games and Broome goes for 32 and 24.

All of the sudden the excuse coach made has been basically exposed (by Cane) as more or less irrelevant. He is clearly the only other player outside of Cumberland who can make a play on demand and is necessary to have on the court (a lot). His effort may have increased on D a little but I doubt he was out there loafing.

Either way it's good to see Cane playing his style because it's fun to watch and it's productive. It's also good to see Brooks distancing himself from the pack and Fredericks getting the hang of it. These developments are pretty big. If Williams can hit 33% from 3 on the year that will be another big development.

I would like to see Diara get a few more minutes out there and Johnson in the upcoming games.[/quote


I can't recall anyone writing Cane off. Coach obviously wanted to send him a message after his nondeflection game and to his credit Cane has responded.

 

[waterhead]

There were people in here writing off Broome after two games as an afterthought sub...10-15 minutes max. Coach hinted that he wanted to play Broome with Johnson and Jenifer with Williams. Fast forward. Johnson plays 12 minutes and 5 minutes the past two games and Broome goes for 32 and 24.

All of the sudden the excuse coach made has been basically exposed (by Cane) as more or less irrelevant. He is clearly the only other player outside of Cumberland who can make a play on demand and is necessary to have on the court (a lot). His effort may have increased on D a little but I doubt he was out there loafing.

Either way it's good to see Cane playing his style because it's fun to watch and it's productive. It's also good to see Brooks distancing himself from the pack and Fredericks getting the hang of it. These developments are pretty big. If Williams can hit 33% from 3 on the year that will be another big development.

I would like to see Diara get a few more minutes out there and Johnson in the upcoming games.[/quote

Nice post Waite! Very informational. To think you are the one claiming the board is deteriorating is pretty ironic.

 

[waterhead]

Nice post Waite! Very informational. To think you are the one claiming the board is deteriorating is pretty ironic.

I guess you were busy editing before I copied