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What will be the outcome?

  • UC wins by 18+

    Votes: 11 40.7%
  • UC wins by 11-17

    Votes: 16 59.3%
  • UC wins by 10 or less

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • East Carolina wins

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Total voters
    27

jacobkdoyle

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Game is Sunday 4 PM on CBS Sports.

ECU is 9-9 and 1-4 in the AAC. They beat South Florida and have lost the last 4 to SNU, @UCF, @Temple, and vs Houston. No time for a letdown.

ECU is #210 in KenPom. #329 AdjO, #65 AdjD, and #239 AdjT.

Keep the pace up. Handle our business.

We are +22.19 AdjEM and they are -4.21

I think we'll be -18.

UC 71
ECU 54
 
I hope my score prediction is low. We have a mature team, we should be able to control the action at a level that ECU isn't capable of reaching. No reason to get stuck in a grinder here.
 
Our first year in the American we played 8 games on a Saturday. Last season we played 6, this year we play 4. Only 2 Saturday home games during the peak of college basketball season (Jan-March) is pathetic.

I think UCONN only got 2 Saturday conference games total. Its a joke how much of a bottom feeder this league is to espn.

Our next 5 out of 6 games are Cbs sports network....woof.
 
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I think UCONN only got 2 Saturday conference games total. Its a joke how much of a bottom feeder this league is to espn.

We just had the game of the night in College Basketball on the main ESPN network. Thursday is our day to get exposure.
 
Some Quick Scouting of ECU:

What they do well:
Play Defense: ECU has the 65th most efficient defense in the country. They try to force you to use a lot of clock and the 9th best 2pt% defense in the country. They also defend the 3 really well. They are a great shot blocking team at 35th best in the country. They don't however generate a lot of turnovers, its most about forcing teams to take bad shots late in the clock. Andre Washington is an elite Rim Protector with a block% good for 14th in the country. He's also 7'2

Offensive rebound: They aren't SMU and not even close, but if I had to pick a second thing they do well, its offensive rebound. They get 32% of their own misses.

What they struggling with:
Scoring/Offense: Only 22 teams in the entire country have a lower offensive efficiency than ECU. They are ranked 324th in 3 point percentage. and 278 in 2 point percentage. Holding them under 50 should be the goal.

Turnovers: One of the worst teams in the country at protecting the ball with an average of something like 15 TO's a game. They can't score on offense and they turn the ball over. Overall of the worst offenses we will face all year.



This is a game that we absolutely need to win and just utterly dominate them. They are 9-9 on the season but the biggest win they have on the season is #192 Air Force. Most of the better teams they have played have been 20 Point blow outs however they did give UCF a good (and ugly game ) battle but fell 48-45.


Need to attack their big man and get him in foul trouble then just run this team off the court.

They could give us trouble with their defense but I think we win 72-48
 
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Some Quick Scouting of ECU:

What they do well:
Play Defense: ECU has the 65th most efficient defense in the country. They try to force you to use a lot of clock and the 9th best 2pt% defense in the country. They also defend the 3 really well. They are a great shot blocking team at 35th best in the country. They don't however generate a lot of turnovers, its most about forcing teams to take bad shots late in the clock. Andre Washington is an elite Rim Protector with a block% good for 14th in the country. He's also 7'2

Offensive rebound: They aren't SMU and not even close, but if I had to pick a second thing they do well, its offensive rebound. They get 32% of their own misses.

What they struggling with:
Scoring/Offense: Only 22 teams in the entire country have a lower offensive efficiency than ECU. They are ranked 324th in 3 point percentage. and 278 in 2 point percentage. Holding them under 50 should be the goal.

Turnovers: One of the worst teams in the country at protecting the ball with an average of something like 15 TO's a game. They can't score on offense and they turn the ball over. Overall of the worst offenses we will face all year.



This is a game that we absolutely need to win and just utterly dominate them. They are 9-9 on the season but the biggest win they have on the season is #192 Air Force. Most of the better teams they have played have been 20 Point blow outs however they did give UCF a good (and ugly game ) battle but fell 48-45.


Need to attack their big man and get him in foul trouble then just run this team off the court.

They could give us trouble with their defense but I think we win 72-48

If they are that bad on offense we should have no problem keeping them in the 40s. Sound pretty good on d, but we should get some easy transition buckets. I'm going with 79-47.
 
At roughly the midpoint of the regular season, I think we can draw a few conclusions about this team.

The good:

This is Mick Cronin's best shooting team, by a wide margin so far. They are hitting 35.7% from 3 and have an eFG% of 54.3%. Their prior bests under Cronin are 34.8% (last year) and 49.5% (two years ago).

They are very, very good at defending shots. Opponents are hitting just 30.9% from 3 (2nd best under Cronin, and a massive improvement over the 35.7% a year ago) and their eFG% is a paltry 41.9%, easily the best under Cronin.

Shooting is King. At the end of the day, no single factor is a better predictor of team success than the ability to hit shots, and prevent your opponent from doing the same (Dean Oliver's Four Factors weighs shooting at 40%, TO at 25%, rebounding at 20%, and FT at 15%). The Bearcats' eFG% margin is a whopping 12.3 percentage points this year - more than double their previous best in the past 11 years (5.4, two years ago). From 2007 on, their cumulative margin is just 2.1 percentage points - this year it is nearly six times that.

The rise in shooting & the improvement in field goal defense add about 5 points per game to the bottom line, compared to last year. Reduce our margin by 5 points per game, and we lose to Iowa State, SMU, Marshall, and possibly Temple, depending on how things break at the end of the game. It is not just good fortune that is allowing us to win close games; no team in the last decade has been this good at stopping shots or making shots, and that is just huge.

This team takes care of the basketball. The TO% is just 13.1%, an improvement over last year's 13.8%, which was the best Cronin team at taking care of the ball. The 2014-15 team was actually his worst at 17.9%, so it appears there has been some emphasis placed here.

They are not putting opponents on the line much, just 15.31 opponent FTA per game (3rd lowest in 11 years) and .257 FTA per FGA (lowest rate under Cronin). Good thing, too, because teams are shooting an eye-popping 75.1% from the line; you would have to go back many years to find a season where the bad guys converted at such a rate - they have not topped 70% since 2010-11 (70.3%). We are losing about 1 PPG on opponent FT compared to last year, despite sending teams to the line less often.

The OK:

Defensive Rebounding % of 69.6% is the best in 5 years, but about the same as last year (69.4%) and similar to the average of the past 11 (68.5%) . The 16.9% defensive turnover rate is also pretty standard (17.4% last year, 17.6% since 2007).

The bad:

This is Mick's worst offensive rebounding team, just 34.3%. However, I'm not sure I mind this so much. Offensive rebounds are a gamble - the harder you hit the glass, the harder it is to be back and set on defense. It is hard to say how much of the decline is due to focusing on getting back on D, and how much is personnel related - the team is a bit smaller this season, but in any event it is a more than acceptable trade off.

The free throw shooting. Good gravy. They are on pace to be the worst FT shooting squad at UC since 2010, and they get to the line less often than any team since 2012. They have got to figure out a way to make some tweaks at the line, because it is going to cost them a game somewhere if they don't.
 
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The ECU scouting report sounds like we, obviously, won't let them score much, but will also score a ton of points off turnovers. Even if we occasionally struggle to score in the half-court against their decent defense, we will no doubt cause a lot of turnovers, leading to easy buckets. Even on their floor, this really should be a cakewalk.
 
Per Dan Hoard's twitter: "#ECU leading scorer BJ Tyson to miss "extended time" with knee injury" Looks like he's out for tomorrow's game vs. the cats.
 
Also ECU coach Jeff Lebo will be taking a leave of absence for hip surgery on Monday. Still believe he will coach our game tomorrow.
 
At roughly the midpoint of the regular season, I think we can draw a few conclusions about this team.

The good:

This is Mick Cronin's best shooting team, by a wide margin so far. They are hitting 35.7% from 3 and have an eFG% of 54.3%. Their prior bests under Cronin are 34.8% (last year) and 49.5% (two years ago).

They are very, very good at defending shots. Opponents are hitting just 30.9% from 3 (2nd best under Cronin, and a massive improvement over the 35.7% a year ago) and their eFG% is a paltry 41.9%, easily the best under Cronin.

Shooting is King. At the end of the day, no single factor is a better predictor of team success than the ability to hit shots, and prevent your opponent from doing the same (Dean Oliver's Four Factors weighs shooting at 40%, TO at 25%, rebounding at 20%, and FT at 15%). The Bearcats' eFG% margin is a whopping 12.3 percentage points this year - more than double their previous best in the past 11 years (5.4, two years ago). From 2007 on, their cumulative margin is just 2.1 percentage points - this year it is nearly six times that.

The rise in shooting & the improvement in field goal defense add about 5 points per game to the bottom line, compared to last year. Reduce our margin by 5 points per game, and we lose to Iowa State, SMU, Marshall, and possibly Temple, depending on how things break at the end of the game. It is not just good fortune that is allowing us to win close games; no team in the last decade has been this good at stopping shots or making shots, and that is just huge.

This team takes care of the basketball. The TO% is just 13.1%, an improvement over last year's 13.8%, which was the best Cronin team at taking care of the ball. The 2014-15 team was actually his worst at 17.9%, so it appears there has been some emphasis placed here.

They are not putting opponents on the line much, just 15.31 opponent FTA per game (3rd lowest in 11 years) and .257 FTA per FGA (lowest rate under Cronin). Good thing, too, because teams are shooting an eye-popping 75.1% from the line; you would have to go back many years to find a season where the bad guys converted at such a rate - they have not topped 70% since 2010-11 (70.3%). We are losing about 1 PPG on opponent FT compared to last year, despite sending teams to the line less often.

The OK:

Defensive Rebounding % of 69.6% is the best in 5 years, but about the same as last year (69.4%) and similar to the average of the past 11 (68.5%) . The 16.9% defensive turnover rate is also pretty standard (17.4% last year, 17.6% since 2007).

The bad:

This is Mick's worst offensive rebounding team, just 34.3%. However, I'm not sure I mind this so much. Offensive rebounds are a gamble - the harder you hit the glass, the harder it is to be back and set on defense. It is hard to say how much of the decline is due to focusing on getting back on D, and how much is personnel related - the team is a bit smaller this season, but in any event it is a more than acceptable trade off.

The free throw shooting. Good gravy. They are on pace to be the worst FT shooting squad at UC since 2010, and they get to the line less often than any team since 2012. They have got to figure out a way to make some tweaks at the line, because it is going to cost them a game somewhere if they don't.

Nice home work... Very interesting read
 
The ECU scouting report sounds like we, obviously, won't let them score much, but will also score a ton of points off turnovers. Even if we occasionally struggle to score in the half-court against their decent defense, we will no doubt cause a lot of turnovers, leading to easy buckets. Even on their floor, this really should be a cakewalk.

If this turns into a 54-51 grinder I'm going to be extremely disappointed.
 
If this turns into a 54-51 grinder I'm going to be extremely disappointed.

What would lead you to believe that? Because they have a decent defense? Look at the teams they've played so far, of course their defense looks good, they've played 12-13 nobody's. With home losses by 16 to Houston and 31 against SMU. Pretty sure we aren't gonna be putting up 50 something points against them, like 99.99% pretty sure. And at -14 I'd be all over that.
 
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