ECU Part II

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Landers Nolley strikes again. Insult the home crowd and team on their court and then when it comes time to put up or shut up, fall flat on your face. I see why Penney probably held the door for him on the way out. He is not a leader in any way shape or form and only showboats for himself.
Nolley out there trying cover spreads for other team. Its like he doesn't have faith to bet on us covering or he's being paid. If I was UC I seriously would investigate Nolley for sports gambling.
 
Nolley out there trying cover spreads for other team. Its like he doesn't have faith to bet on us covering or he's being paid. If I was UC I seriously would investigate Nolley for sports gambling.
Stop posting these kind of accusations here.
 
Feel like the story of this season has been "2 steps forward, then 3 steps back."

That may have been the worst coaching performance of Wes's short time in Clifton.

As for next year's team, if we don't get massive talent upgrades at the 2, 3, and 4 positions (I remain firm that Nolley won't return) then we may be in for the longest season of Bearcat basketball in ages.

Vik return or not, this season's prospects took a massive blow with this loss (after already getting walloped at Tulane one week ago).
 
Feel like the story of this season has been "2 steps forward, then 3 steps back."

That may have been the worst coaching performance of Wes's short time in Clifton.

As for next year's team, if we don't get massive talent upgrades at the 2, 3, and 4 positions (I remain firm that Nolley won't return) then we may be in for the longest season of Bearcat basketball in ages.

Vik return or not, this season's prospects took a massive blow with this loss (after already getting walloped at Tulane one week ago).

We need a complete overhaul. Outside of Vik, Nolley and Skilling's (specifically on potential).

Wes better land Flory and he better land a home run transfer.

This has been a disaster.
 
Vik return or not, this season's prospects took a massive blow with this loss (after already getting walloped at Tulane one week ago).
Embarrassing loss for sure, but the season's prospects haven't changed much. The Tulane loss ended even our slimmest NCAA hopes. And my guess is that only one team from the AAC will get an NIT bid, which will probably be Tulane. We're still in line for a first round bye in the conference tourney, with the loss last night meaning we swapped 4/5 spots with Temple.

I don't know how as a coach you watch your 6'0" PG get backed down in iso on a dozen consecutive possessions and do absolutely nothing to stop it. Double, sub out DDJ, play zone, anything. ECU is one of the worst three point shooting teams in the country, it would have been a perfect opportunity to play some zone.
 
My guess is that only one team from the AAC will get an NIT bid, which will probably be Tulane.
So this was just based off memory, but the AAC has sent multiple teams to the NIT before. There have been up to 5 teams from the same conference. So we could definitely still get an NIT bid if we play well to close the season.
 
In the home matchup we made 14 of 26 threes, an insane 54%. Probably can't count on that again. We only got to the rim 14 times and settled for 25 midrange jumpers. It would be nice to have better shot selection against a poor defense. ECU has given up more than a point per possession in their last 7 games. While their offensive rebounding has been good this year (#31 nationally), we held ECU to their lowest OReb rate of the season. Hopefully we can dominate the boards again.
The offense was fine last night, and we actually did have much better shot selection. We got to the rim 25 times and only had 13 midrange shots. We scored 1.06 points per possession, which should be enough to beat ECU on any court.

But wow, what a turnaround on the boards. ECU went from having their worst offensive rebounding performance of the season at Fifth Third to their best of the season last night. In the first matchup we outrebounded them by 17, last night ECU beat us by 19 on the glass. They got to the rim 32 times. Just a terrible showing that can't be attributed to bad luck. It's not like ECU was draining tough shots all night. We were outworked and outcoached.
 
Embarrassing loss for sure, but the season's prospects haven't changed much. The Tulane loss ended even our slimmest NCAA hopes. And my guess is that only one team from the AAC will get an NIT bid, which will probably be Tulane. We're still in line for a first round bye in the conference tourney, with the loss last night meaning we swapped 4/5 spots with Temple.

I don't know how as a coach you watch your 6'0" PG get backed down in iso on a dozen consecutive possessions and do absolutely nothing to stop it. Double, sub out DDJ, play zone, anything. ECU is one of the worst three point shooting teams in the country, it would have been a perfect opportunity to play some zone.

If making the NIT is the benchmark for adequate progress, then I think our chances took a considerable hit with yesterday's loss.

The lowest ranked team in NET to make the NIT last season was Belmont, but even at #79 they had a solid resume going 6-7 in Q1/Q2 games with only one Q3 loss.

If we lose at Memphis and at UCF and bow out in the AAC tournament quarterfinals, I would expect us to be on the outside looking in for the NIT.

Obviously, with a healthy Vik, we can easily turn things around.
 
Stop posting these kind of accusations here.

Nobody going to see it anyway. I've posted it on Twitter and Facebook with over 28k views. Relax its only 7 of us in here. I can say what I want or I'll leave!!! I call it how I see it.
 
The offense was fine last night, and we actually did have much better shot selection. We got to the rim 25 times and only had 13 midrange shots. We scored 1.06 points per possession, which should be enough to beat ECU on any court.

But wow, what a turnaround on the boards. ECU went from having their worst offensive rebounding performance of the season at Fifth Third to their best of the season last night. In the first matchup we outrebounded them by 17, last night ECU beat us by 19 on the glass. They got to the rim 32 times. Just a terrible showing that can't be attributed to bad luck. It's not like ECU was draining tough shots all night. We were outworked and outcoached.
Offense was horrible last night. Jd got hot but most them shots i considered bad shots he just made. DDJ was throwing dumb high passes and im surprised he didn't have 10 TO. Offense and defense was horrible. Give me your eye test opinion. Can we stop posting useless lame data?
 
Offense was horrible last night. Jd got hot but most them shots i considered bad shots he just made. DDJ was throwing dumb high passes and im surprised he didn't have 10 TO. Offense and defense was horrible. Give me your eye test opinion. Can we stop posting useless lame data?
I give my eye test opinion during or immediately following the game before looking at any stats. I've done that all year long. Stats can tell you a lot of things that your eyes miss, and your eyes can tell you things that stats don't measure.

I've said before that we should run more horns sets with Nolley at the top, guards in the corners, bigs at the elbows. That vacates the block and allows anyone to cut there with or without the ball. It lets the guards come off down screens and the bigs to roll to the rim. It's a pretty standard setup that a lot of teams use these days, and it would play to our players' strengths. That comes from watching games, not stats.

But the stats say our offense was fine last night. We were 33% from three because while JD was hot, the rest of the team was 2 for 13. We only had 8 turnovers despite Nolley coughing it up 5 times. You can say all the jumpshots were bad but we were 16 for 25 at the rim. Our eyes focus on the outliers and the stats fill in the rest. Putting up points is what matters and we did that. It was an average offensive game and a horrible defensive game.
 
I give my eye test opinion during or immediately following the game before looking at any stats. I've done that all year long. Stats can tell you a lot of things that your eyes miss, and your eyes can tell you things that stats don't measure.

I've said before that we should run more horns sets with Nolley at the top, guards in the corners, bigs at the elbows. That vacates the block and allows anyone to cut there with or without the ball. It lets the guards come off down screens and the bigs to roll to the rim. It's a pretty standard setup that a lot of teams use these days, and it would play to our players' strengths. That comes from watching games, not stats.

But the stats say our offense was fine last night. We were 33% from three because while JD was hot, the rest of the team was 2 for 13. We only had 8 turnovers despite Nolley coughing it up 5 times. You can say all the jumpshots were bad but we were 16 for 25 at the rim. Our eyes focus on the outliers and the stats fill in the rest. Putting up points is what matters and we did that. It was an average offensive game and a horrible defensive game.

That's where the eye test go into effect but coaches like you relying too much on stats. After being up 16, when lead got down to I believe 11 coach should've took out 3 of the starters. Idc who he put in game, just eat the clock and pack the paint. This is a 40min sport not 30min. The Offense was behind horrible in last 10min.
 
I understand wanting length but watching last night made me realize we literally been playing ALL year with two guards. How the hell did Wes allow this to happen? All year and he still starts both of them together is damn near fireable. Nolley should've been locked in @2 for 30min. Jd, Hensley, Reed, Skillings couldn't handle the 3 between for of them? Wes refused to balance out lineups once he seen only two true guards was on team.
 
Im not even go discuss piss poor effort on D and rebounding from VETERAN team. Nobody on team goes after rebounds once ball in air. Everybody stands around unless it bounce in their area. MAW, Ddj, JD, Nolley, oDy all old as dirt in CBB age. We shouldn't be discussing chasing down rebounds with this group!!!
 
Nolley
Skillings
Reed
Hensley
Vik

This would've been my lineup once we didn't beat any top teams. Even if they didn't play most minutes I've seen enough to know none of FR have guard skills for B12. So let them develop some now so they more ready for wing duty in B12. Hensley is nice piece stuck with bad coaches. If im losing to bottom dwellers of this dumpster conference, I for damn sure isn't losing with team that's not going be year next year. If Reed, Skillings, and Hensley can't compete in this conference against other underclassmen. Why are we taking anybody on this roster into big 12? No team in big12 losing to kenpom 200 teams in February.
 
This would be my starting 5 next game. Message need be sent to vets in February is pathetic.

Anthony
Skillings
Reed
Hensley
Kalu
 
This is a 40min sport not 30min. The Offense was behind horrible in last 10min.
Right, over 40 minutes the offense was average. In the last 10 it was really bad. The stats tell us that too. The defense was still worse. And I suggested taking DDJ out or going zone, also based on stats. If anything, Wes doesn't consider stats enough. He refuses to alter lineups and rotations because he doesn't want to upset what players are used to. He deliberately doesn't implement lineups based on statistical strategies because he doesn't think the players are mature enough to handle it.
 
Im not even go discuss piss poor effort on D and rebounding from VETERAN team. Nobody on team goes after rebounds once ball in air. Everybody stands around unless it bounce in their area. MAW, Ddj, JD, Nolley, oDy all old as dirt in CBB age. We shouldn't be discussing chasing down rebounds with this group!!!
Yeah it was pathetic. MAW and Skillings didn't grab a single rebound in 46 minutes. We only had 2 total rebounds from the guard positions against ECU.
 
Yeah it was pathetic. MAW and Skillings didn't grab a single rebound in 46 minutes. We only had 2 total rebounds from the guard positions against ECU.

to be fair, Skillings only played 12 minutes. Didn't do much with those minutes and he should still be boarding with this length and athleticism.

MAW on the other hand played 34 minutes and had 4 points, 0 assists, and 0 rebounds. That's a beyond pathetic line for a guard getting that much PT.
 
Skillings need to play at minimum 20 plus minutes from here on out and you take the lumps. What difference does it make anyway?

I'd say the same for Reed but I have yet still to see a single thing that he does well or has the potential to do well. But you might as well try to figure it out because it's not going to get easier next year.
 
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