GUYS LIKE KENYON

[M64W]

Help me understand guys like Kenyon Martin. I loved him when he played, as with NVE, Terry Nelson etc. I understand that they were pulling for NVE, but in reality what do these guys know about all the duties of the head coach, the lack of experience by some, the fit with the players, recruiting and the multiple tasks (speaking engagements, soliciting support etc.) Why can't they throw their support behind the new coach? It is about the University not the person.

 

[TheLivingLegend]

Kenyon was going to sound off on anything but NVE. He's always looked for a reason to bash.

I suspect some tunes change in time. But that initial reaction is unwarranted and unfortunately damaging to public image

 

[Uclawrugby]

If you don’t think KMart has not earned the right to his opinion about anything UC basketball related then... I will refrain. People love to discount the player opinion I think to their ultimate detriment. I don’t even know what he said but whatever it is he has earned the right to say it and until your Jersey hangs from the rafters you do not count as much. BTW he was right about how they handled Huggins which is the last time I am aware of that he expresse frustration with the program. We should be glad he cares.

 

[cincycpaw]

Yeah and I think his initial post was misunderstood. He was not happy that NVE didn’t get an interview I think.

He never said anything bad about the new coach.

 

[TheRealMick]

Yes he was speaking on the process ONLY! Undertones I got from former players is that "no black coaches was interviewed"! This is major problem if true.

 

[M64W]

Yes he was speaking on the process ONLY! Undertones I got from former players is that "no black coaches was interviewed"! This is major problem if true.

Undertones I got from fans is that there are no white players on scholarship!

 

[Alum2013]

Undertones I got from fans is that there are no white players on scholarship!

I for one have stated multiple times I don't think Cronin really looks at the fundamentally sound knock down shooter white guy that alot of other programs do.

I also agree that UC was lazy for not even bringing anyone else in for an interview if not just to learn about ways other people view the program and improvements they see possible.

 

[Gocats]

I recall Kmart saying he would never have anything to do with U.C. when they fired Huggins.

 

[cincrulz11]

I recall Kmart saying he would never have anything to do with U.C. when they fired Huggins.

he hasn't really outside of when he throws shade at the program.

 

[JoeRunner89]

Kenyons earned the right to feel how he does, it's actually quite refreshing he cares. On top of that we as fans gotta understand that these guys may know a lot more about basketball and coaching than what's perceived

 

[waterhead]

Kenyons earned the right to feel how he does, it's actually quite refreshing he cares. On top of that we as fans gotta understand that these guys may know a lot more about basketball and coaching than what's perceived

I don’t think he cares about the university much...it’s all about personal loyalties and politics imo. There are ways to tell. Constructive criticism is good and that can be done in private if your in a position of influence. You can lobby behind closed doors and state your case and hear the rebuttal. He could do a lot more by becoming a consistent ambassador than being a fleeting critic if that was his MO.

 

[JoeRunner89]

I don’t think he cares about the university much...it’s all about personal loyalties and politics imo. There are ways to tell. Constructive criticism is good and that can be done in private if your in a position of influence. You can lobby behind closed doors and state your case and hear the rebuttal. He could do a lot more by becoming a consistent ambassador than being a fleeting critic if that was his MO.

The irony of this is, yea that's what Kenyon was speaking on personal loyalties and politics.... It's not as tho this was a slam dunk hire, there are better hires out there.. and he's spoke and came back to campus so many times. You can even look up the video where Mick had him address the team at the end of practice. Certainly loyalty was all in the effort and speech that he gave

 

[Btown Bearcat]

Im 33 years old been a die hard uc bball fan since i was 6 or 7 literally. I grew up on Huggins, Martin, Fortson you name it but I think im gonna have to be the guy who says it. Huggins and alot of his players have no accountability none they never have especially off the court. Say what you will about Zimpher etc but i bet you Huggins still blames everyone but himself for getting fired. His players also never took accountability for anything. Its no surprise were seeing this type of attitude making a mess of things. I get some of their issues but the way they are going about it is so ridiculous they did the same shit to Cronin in his tenure the whole I dont hate you I just hate uc and the people in charge crap and thats why we cant fully support you. What did Kmart goto 3 cronin games most of which Huggins was involved in? I for one am outright sick of it plan and simple I dont know how else to say it without offending people but enough is enough and im glad people are seeing it for what it is.

Like I said I get some of their anger but at the end of the day this whole we dont hate fill in the blank current coach we just hate the university crap just isnt cool point blank period