Nova Game Thoughts

[Not Guilty]

But see the assist stat supports what I said, they need to get more three's off of drives and dishes to wide open guys behind the line than the shots they were taking yesterday. Yesterday they were shooting off of just passing around the perimeter. I don't have a problem with shooting them if they are being generated the right way, our offense seems to run so much better when the ball gets inside whether a pass to the post or a drive. The driving opens up so many options when the defense collapses.

You have to give credit to Villanova for some of this. They (like us) are a team that is really good at taking you out of your offense with their pressure defense.

Also, yesterday, we missed Larry Davis.

 

[psax889906]

You have to give credit to Villanova for some of this. They (like us) are a team that is really good at taking you out of your offense with their pressure defense.

Also, yesterday, we missed Larry Davis.

Did you think a year ago you'd be saying that?

Crazy how things can change so quickly- and for the record, you're spot on. It should have been him taking the three pointer attempts, not Bishop.

 

[ready2go]

This is a very old way of thinking about the PG position. When UC teams of the last 20 years have been at their best, they have had scoring threats at the PG position. Van Exel, Logan, Satterfield, Flint to name a few. If Cash doesn't try to take the ball to the hole or shoot the three he is a detriment on the floor. His penetration can create problems for the defense. He didn't have the best game today but he will be fine.

Step off your high horse for a second and actually read...

I agree he has a decent shot. Thats why I said he needs to hit the open 3 and instead of driving into traffic he should pull up and hit the jumper.

Game in and game out he drives to the lane and gets too deep. Resulting in a wild shot. I mean for pete sake Im pretty sure Ive seen him do a 360 trying to put up a layup amongst taller defenders. Its like he doesnt know what to do when he gets that deep.

I agree if he can penetrate and dish to an open player or drive and actually put up a resonable layup, im all for it. But thats just not Cashmere Wright.

And yes it would be nice to have a Logan or a Sat. in Cash, but reality is thats just not his game

 

[Thegreatone]

Step off your high horse for a second and actually read...

I agree he has a decent shot. Thats why I said he needs to hit the open 3 and instead of driving into traffic he should pull up and hit the jumper.

Game in and game out he drives to the lane and gets too deep. Resulting in a wild shot. I mean for pete sake Im pretty sure Ive seen him do a 360 trying to put up a layup amongst taller defenders. Its like he doesnt know what to do when he gets that deep.

I agree if he can penetrate and dish to an open player or drive and actually put up a resonable layup, im all for it. But thats just not Cashmere Wright.

And yes it would be nice to have a Logan or a Sat. in Cash, but reality is thats just not his game

I am sure your post was good and made a good point but I read this and stopped reading. It immediately discredits whatever proceeds it.

 

[nparker1]

First, I am not calling anybody out, nor I am calling anyone a hater. This is just my opinion regarding Cash.
I find myself forgetting the fact that Cash is a sophomore. He came here with high expectations, and he has had some growing pains. I have to give the kid some credit though. He is not afraid to work hard. The perfect example is free throw shooting. After his hideous performance from the line in the first game, he has been working tirelessly to improve, and it has paid off. His speed is irreplaceable. He ball handling allows him to break the press. He is the only true 'floor general' on the team. I expect great things from Cash. I have to remind myself to temper my expectations due to his limited experience. Watching him shadow Holloway at the crosstown, showed me he is going to be good. Not only does he have the skills, but he seems to have the heart to become better.
Go Bearcats!

 

[JasonS]

Step off your high horse for a second and actually read...
I agree he has a decent shot. Thats why I said he needs to hit the open 3 and instead of driving into traffic he should pull up and hit the jumper.

Game in and game out he drives to the lane and gets too deep. Resulting in a wild shot. I mean for pete sake Im pretty sure Ive seen him do a 360 trying to put up a layup amongst taller defenders. Its like he doesnt know what to do when he gets that deep.

I agree if he can penetrate and dish to an open player or drive and actually put up a resonable layup, im all for it. But thats just not Cashmere Wright.

And yes it would be nice to have a Logan or a Sat. in Cash, but reality is thats just not his game

My only point was that he is not and never has been a pass first PG and Mick doesn't want him to be. All Mick wants is for Cash to not turn the ball over and make good decisions. For the record, my horse is pretty tall so I can't really step off of it. Jump, maybe. Step, not a chance.

 

[ervins84]

But see the assist stat supports what I said, they need to get more three's off of drives and dishes to wide open guys behind the line than the shots they were taking yesterday. Yesterday they were shooting off of just passing around the perimeter. I don't have a problem with shooting them if they are being generated the right way, our offense seems to run so much better when the ball gets inside whether a pass to the post or a drive. The driving opens up so many options when the defense collapses.

really disagree. The assist stats would be higher if guys were making shots off of passes instead of only scoring when someone attacks the rim and gets a layup or off of putbacks which arent going to get assists.

 

[cincinnati insanity]

Cash is really the only true point guard UC has and you can tell when he leaves the game. I do think however that Rashad Bishop is the next best thing. i absolutely love when he attacks the rim and think he is the strongest SF in the Big east. He can score with contact and you cant let him go left handed..His shooting from long range is suspect but he can drive and dish when he wants to. I think having him running the show when cash is out, is one of the best things Cronin can do.... I also think Cash has to start shooting more often outside, not only will this open his driving up, but he is a pretty solid shooter. This kid will be all a all big east player by the time his career is over. (whether it is 1st, 2nd or 3rd team)

 

[ready2go]

I am sure your post was good and made a good point but I read this and stopped reading. It immediately discredits whatever proceeds it.

Huh

I run this forum. Just take a step back and awe at my posts.

Also for the record. I am not saying Cash is bad. Just saying he gets in trouble when driving the paint. DONT care if hes a freshman or redshirt Senior. If you arent effective doing something, dont do it

 

[bearcat jeff]

Watch Cash is what are perceived big games and you'll see a pattern. In the first half he tries to do too much and part of that is over penetrating.Cash need to calm himself and get in the flow of the game. He is either too nervous or too jacked at the start of these games.

I also agree that he needs to take shots at the rim when he drives. There are times he throws the ball up and it costs the team points. I assume he is trying to get it on the rim for an offensive rebound, but he blows a lot of close shots by being out of control. Funny thing is Cash has all the tools to be a top notch point guard. He has a good handle, he can get around anyone as long as he doesn"t hesitate on his drive, quick, and can shoot. When he conquers his mental blocks he'll be very good.

 

[Ryno99]

really disagree. The assist stats would be higher if guys were making shots off of passes instead of only scoring when someone attacks the rim and gets a layup or off of putbacks which arent going to get assists.

Again you are making my point for me, they will have better shots, therefore make more of them if they are generated from the drive and dish. Just passing around the perimeter does not generate open shots and they miss more of them. So yes I agree there would be more assists if guys made more shots off of passes, that is the very definition of an assist, but those shots have to be better more open shots for more of them to fall and IMO, that is generated by driving and working the ball inside out.

 

[Not Guilty]

I listened to Mick's radio show yesterday. Cash is struggling with injuries to his knee or his shoulder right now, which is causing him to miss some practice time. Mick said it is to the point where he either needs to practice full go or take a week off and rest up.

That to me sounds like we will miss Cash for a couple of games at some point this season. That is certainly not ideal, but hopefully we handle it alright.

 

[ervins84]

They start settling for 3's and shooting that many, especially on a cold day like yesterday scoring is going to be tough. Look at what happened in the second half when they didn't shoot as many and drove and dished or got the ball inside. They made a huge come back. I fear if they settle for 3's as they did early yesterday they are going to have a tough time.

and they even shot more 3s in the second half than they did in the first half. your eyes are deceiving you

Again you are making my point for me, they will have better shots, therefore make more of them if they are generated from the drive and dish. Just passing around the perimeter does not generate open shots and they miss more of them. So yes I agree there would be more assists if guys made more shots off of passes, that is the very definition of an assist, but those shots have to be better more open shots for more of them to fall and IMO, that is generated by driving and working the ball inside out.

We watched two completely different games, bc a lot of those 3s were good looks that came off of dribble drive and kicks. They scored a ton of pts in the paint by driving the basketball and attacking the rim. I know at one pt it was 32-8, and theres no way that they were kicking out a decent % of the time for open looks. Theres virtually no way statistically they werent driving/kicking on a decent clip of those attempts and in the game i watched they had plenty of good looks.

Also, Initially you said they shot way too many 3s.

Shot way too many 3's when they weren't falling. It seemed to me in the second half Mick may have said no 3's and that's when they made their run. Dixon's shot has been flat from 3, he needs to slash and not worry about the 3 right now. I have to disagree about Cash driving. I think we need that, when we don't we end up just passing around the perimeter and shooting a 3, we need to get 3's off the drive by dishing to a wide open shooter. I was impressed with the no quit attitude and how they stayed in the game.

if the 3's aren't falling go away from them quicker, no reason to shoot 20 when you're shooting 10%.

Once that was disproved, you conveniently changed the argument to we need to get better looks on 3's, which is virtually impossible to prove without breaking down game tape of each individual attempt and looking at every time someone dribble drove and kicked out and sometimes guys even passed up open looks.

And again, most importantly, and this seems to be lost on you, is that youre saying they arent attacking the rim. They had to attack the rim to score as many points in the paint as they did. Its just not statistically possible.

 

[Ryno99]

Dude what I'm saying is that in the first half they got caught passing the ball around the perimeter too much and settling for shots, much of this due to Nova's D and UC not being comfortable with it, so yes I feel they settle for too many 3's during that stretch.

Maybe I wasn't clear but yes I feel they took the wrong three's, I will stand by all my points, you are just twisting them to what you think is your advantage.

In the second half, they made their run by attacking the hoop and not settling for 3's and not nearly as many were taken during that stretch.

Yes they shot more in the second half I believe many were in the last 8 minutes or so when they had to do their best to hit some to get back in the game.

Both things happened in the game and I'll stand by I feel they took too many at some points in the game and the wrong ones. The end game dictated they take more which they had too and I have no problem with it. I know they attacked the basket as well b/c I said they made their run when they did.

My basic point is that they play better when they get the ball inside by passing to the post or drive and dish I don't think we disagree there. They got down Sunday when I feel they were settling for shots, we may differ in opinion here. Yes more assists will come as you said when more baskets are made off of passes, that much is obvious as that is the definition of assist. I feel they could have done better Sunday at that, you seem not too.

Simple as that.

 

[Ryno99]

One quick additional note from Dan Hoard's blog:

"FYI, after reviewing the tape, Coach Cronin determined that 7 of the 20 3-point attempts were bad shots"

 

[ready2go]

Watch Cash is what are perceived big games and you'll see a pattern. In the first half he tries to do too much and part of that is over penetrating.Cash need to calm himself and get in the flow of the game. He is either too nervous or too jacked at the start of these games.

I also agree that he needs to take shots at the rim when he drives. There are times he throws the ball up and it costs the team points. I assume he is trying to get it on the rim for an offensive rebound, but he blows a lot of close shots by being out of control. Funny thing is Cash has all the tools to be a top notch point guard. He has a good handle, he can get around anyone as long as he doesn"t hesitate on his drive, quick, and can shoot. When he conquers his mental blocks he'll be very good.

I agree.

Maybe in high school he was able to get to the hoop and finish, but it is well documented that the college game is different. He is much more effective when he hits the open jumper and doesnt try and do too much by dribbling into 3 defenders.

Cincinnati just needs him to manage the game. Beat the press by handling the basketball and getting the ball into the paint or to the open shooter. And yes, if open to knock down the open jumper as we have seen him do this year. We dont need him to be Kenny Satterfield or Steve Logan, because he isnt. I'm not saying that he should eliminate dribble drive penetration, but he needs to get better at it in practice before he tries it far too often in games.

 

[ralph1950]

Villanova was but one game out of 31 regular season games. Time to forget about it and move on to South Florida.

 

[JasonS]

Louisville loses by 14 at Nova tonight. Obviously they are not for real either. Bet you won't find a single writer that writes that tonight or tomorrow.

 

[bearcat jeff]

Louisville loses by 14 at Nova tonight. Obviously they are not for real either. Bet you won't find a single writer that writes that tonight or tomorrow.

I would not fear Villanova on a neutral court.

 

[swg]

We can beat both at home. Which is about all you can ask for.