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GarradJ21
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I just want to blow through these 2 teams and on to ISU..1 week!
Bearcat_NTS
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Cronin is a master at finding obscure cupcakes to throw to the lions. When I heard we were playing Samford and Sons, I thought about just giving my tickets to my kids. But, I did a little research and they have this dude averaging 15 rebounds a game, so the matchup with Washington and Gary on the inside should be interesting. Plus, they were respectable against New Mexico St., so I'm going and hoping for an enjoyable evening.
I think I am as interested in watching this team as I have been in any of Cronin's 10 seasons. I just wish I didn't have to sit through Samford and Sons, and Lipscomb Iced Tea and some of the rest of these obscure cupcakes that Cronin brings in. But, for me, it's a way out of the Thanksgiving preparation, and I'm taking it. I would like to see something near 100 points tonight from our offense.
Compare that to Xavier. As of today, Xavier has 6 games against teams that are currently not in the KenPom top 100 and two of those are DePaul (unavoidable) and one was Missouri in an exempt tournament. So Mack scheduled 3 non-top 100 teams (Buffalo, Lehigh, Eastern Washington).
As of today, Cincinnati has 9 such opponents IN THE NON-CONFERENCE. Only one of those was unscheduled in Penn State. Pathetic.
Agreed. I would like to see Mick experiment with the lineups in the next two games. I'd like to see Scott with Clark as the 4/5 and also see more of Cumberland/Evans as the 3/4. Also as little of KJ as possible.
I'm interested in seeing the KJ/Tobler combination.
Bearcat_NTS
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I'm interested in seeing the KJ/Tobler combination.
I'm more interested in the Broome/KJ combination. Who sits where? Do they change it up throughout the game?
GarradJ21
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Compare that to Xavier. As of today, Xavier has 6 games against teams that are currently not in the KenPom top 100 and two of those are DePaul (unavoidable) and one was Missouri in an exempt tournament. So Mack scheduled 3 non-top 100 teams (Buffalo, Lehigh, Eastern Washington).
As of today, Cincinnati has 9 such opponents IN THE NON-CONFERENCE. Only one of those was unscheduled in Penn State. Pathetic.
Xavier also is smaller than my high school and has extremely ugly girls that go there.
Compare that to Xavier. As of today, Xavier has 6 games against teams that are currently not in the KenPom top 100 and two of those are DePaul (unavoidable) and one was Missouri in an exempt tournament. So Mack scheduled 3 non-top 100 teams (Buffalo, Lehigh, Eastern Washington).
As of today, Cincinnati has 9 such opponents IN THE NON-CONFERENCE. Only one of those was unscheduled in Penn State. Pathetic.
Xavier has been killing it in scheduling. They want to be an elite program and they aren't using all these goofy excuses that our fanbase uses. Cronin used our inclusion in the Big East to soften our OOC scheduling to epic low standards. Xavier went the other way and bolstered their OOC scheduling when they entered the Big East. Now they are a top 10 program that sells out their arena and owns this city, and blue chip recruits are flocking there. Let's compare schedules last year. Xavier played Missouri, Michigan, Northwood, Miami, Oh., NKU, Alabama, Southern Cal., Dayton, Western Ky., Wright St., Auburn, Wake Forest, Cincinnati, and the Big East teams. I'm not even going to bother listing our schedule. Their coach and AD has some balls. This is why Xavier sells out every game and we get 5,200. We make excuses. They want to be elite!
GarradJ21
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Xavier has been killing it in scheduling. They want to be an elite program and they aren't using all these goofy excuses that our fanbase uses. Cronin used our inclusion in the Big East to soften our OOC scheduling to epic low standards. Xavier went the other way and bolstered their OOC scheduling when they entered the Big East. Now they are a top 10 program that sells out their arena and owns this city, and blue chip recruits are flocking there. Let's compare schedules last year. Xavier played Missouri, Michigan, Northwood, Miami, Oh., NKU, Alabama, Southern Cal., Dayton, Western Ky., Wright St., Auburn, Wake Forest, Cincinnati, and the Big East teams. I'm not even going to bother listing our schedule. Their coach and AD has some balls. This is why Xavier sells out every game and we get 5,200. We make excuses. They want to be elite!
So you've never seen the girls that go there?
Kidding, yeah that's good for Xavier. I still get excited who ever we play, but yup, I see what ya mean.
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Honestly, when we owned this city, joking about the Xavier girls was somewhat funny. Not anymore. For me, this whole Xavier topic is extremely upsetting because this has happened on Cronin's watch and I never thought I would live long enough to see Xavier blow past us and leave us in the dust. When I sit and watch teams like Samford, I think about this a lot.
Question. Over the last 6 years we have been making the tournament...if we would have played tougher OOC... would we still make the tournament?
We have been on the bubble a lot. 1 or 2 more losses could have killed our chances each year. I get our SOS would be up but it's a legitimate question.
We have been on the bubble a lot. 1 or 2 more losses could have killed our chances each year. I get our SOS would be up but it's a legitimate question.
Question. Over the last 6 years we have been making the tournament...if we would have played tougher OOC... would we still make the tournament?
We have been on the bubble a lot. 1 or 2 more losses could have killed our chances each year. I get our SOS would be up but it's a legitimate question.
No, we obviously wouldn't. Cronin is a master at managing around his warts and squeaking into the tournament. Kudos to him for this. But, this is exactly why it's been 10 years with no raising of the bar. He slows the game down to a snail's pace. He's taught defense. He strategically softens the schedule. Anything to get that coveted at-large bid. But, recruits don't want to play the bleeding eyeballs offense, and play 70% cupcakes, and emphasize defense all the time, and play on ESPN3 and these other obscure channels. Anyway....let's obliterate poor Samford tonight....lol.
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Agreed. I would like to see Mick experiment with the lineups in the next two games. I'd like to see Scott with Clark as the 4/5 and also see more of Cumberland/Evans as the 3/4. Also as little of KJ as possible.
I agree. The Samford game is not a showcase for a SR starter while players who need the minutes sit for extended minutes.
I agree. The Samford game is not a showcase for a SR starter while players who need the minutes sit for extended minutes.
Lol....Mick will go the other way and give KJ the green light to shoot his way out of his slump! This is the night!
No, we obviously wouldn't. Cronin is a master at managing around his warts and squeaking into the tournament. Kudos to him for this. But, this is exactly why it's been 10 years with no raising of the bar. He slows the game down to a snail's pace. He's taught defense. He strategically softens the schedule. Anything to get that coveted at-large bid. But, recruits don't want to play the bleeding eyeballs offense, and play 70% cupcakes, and emphasize defense all the time, and play on ESPN3 and these other obscure channels. Anyway....let's obliterate poor Samford tonight....lol.
I get it. But seeing teams like Villanova, Wisconsin, and VA with slower tempo really tells me we just need better offensive players. It seems we are getting to that point so who knows.
His style isn't changing so the recruits have to.
Bearcat_NTS
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Xavier has been killing it in scheduling. They want to be an elite program and they aren't using all these goofy excuses that our fanbase uses. Cronin used our inclusion in the Big East to soften our OOC scheduling to epic low standards. Xavier went the other way and bolstered their OOC scheduling when they entered the Big East. Now they are a top 10 program that sells out their arena and owns this city, and blue chip recruits are flocking there. Let's compare schedules last year. Xavier played Missouri, Michigan, Northwood, Miami, Oh., NKU, Alabama, Southern Cal., Dayton, Western Ky., Wright St., Auburn, Wake Forest, Cincinnati, and the Big East teams. I'm not even going to bother listing our schedule. Their coach and AD has some balls. This is why Xavier sells out every game and we get 5,200. We make excuses. They want to be elite!
Too much truth. Speaking honestly about this program? You must be a Xavier fan.
Too much truth. Speaking honestly about this program? You must be a Xavier fan.
It's always dangerous to post facts on this website. You do so at considerable risk. I hope a Xavier fan is the worst of what I'm called, but I know better.
No, we obviously wouldn't. Cronin is a master at managing around his warts and squeaking into the tournament. Kudos to him for this. But, this is exactly why it's been 10 years with no raising of the bar. He slows the game down to a snail's pace. He's taught defense. He strategically softens the schedule. Anything to get that coveted at-large bid. But, recruits don't want to play the bleeding eyeballs offense, and play 70% cupcakes, and emphasize defense all the time, and play on ESPN3 and these other obscure channels. Anyway....let's obliterate poor Samford tonight....lol.
I buy into the idea of preparing a great squad with tough OOC opponents. We haven't been great for a long time so not sure how much it helps with just better than average teams. I get more fans would come to the games but will they if we lose the games?
It's a double edged sword. Missing the tournament 3 of the last 6 years because we had better OOC can also damper fan enthusiasm.
I hope we get to a point where scheduling better OOC can really help us in March. Maybe we are making that turn.
This is one of those chicken or egg scenarios. It can go either way unless you have the team that can handle it.
GarradJ21
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Honestly, when we owned this city, joking about the Xavier girls was somewhat funny. Not anymore. For me, this whole Xavier topic is extremely upsetting because this has happened on Cronin's watch and I never thought I would live long enough to see Xavier blow past us and leave us in the dust. When I sit and watch teams like Samford, I think about this a lot.
Its actually not a joke at all. Extremely true.
GarradJ21
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I'm pumped to watch this game tonight. Lets go Bearcats. Lets cover the spread too.
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I'm pumped to watch this game tonight. Lets go Bearcats. Lets cover the spread too.
Agreed. Or double it. I think we can win by 40. But, I'll be more curious how our backups play, rather than winning by a ton. I'll be pissed if KJ gets more than 15 minutes. It does nothing.