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[jacobkdoyle]

Another sign of the IQ Evans plays with...yesterday we're pushing it down the floor, not a full blown transition opportunity, but we were on the move. And Evans sees Moore in front of him on the left side and waves him through to clear out via baseline to the other corner so we have spacing to start our possession. That's like having a coach on the floor. He has a tremendous understanding of how we need to be spaced. I don't even remember what happened on that possession but that's just one of those little things. The game moves slow enough for guys like him, Clark, and Cumberland that they not only do their own jobs, but can get other guys in position and teach them on the fly.

 

[lumberjack]

It was nothing. They are friends. Jankovich said he did most of the talking and thinks we're a great team. He said Cronin owes him dinner lol. He said Cronin basically said he can't believe the injuries they're going through.

https://youtu.be/DG1_uW0ZpIQ

*If you watch I'd go to about 13:30. Ol Jank is pretty dejected the rest of the time.

I believe Mick said on the radio show that he thanked him for playing a lot of subs in the latter part of the game based on their injuries and fatigue.

 

[UCalum08]

It was nothing. They are friends. Jankovich said he did most of the talking and thinks we're a great team. He said Cronin owes him dinner lol. He said Cronin basically said he can't believe the injuries they're going through.

https://youtu.be/DG1_uW0ZpIQ

*If you watch I'd go to about 13:30. Ol Jank is pretty dejected the rest of the time.

While it is unfortunate in regards to all the injuries they have suffered. That was a little much by Jank to sulk for 15 minutes about it. Not to mention to complain about the NCAA taking scholarships. Maybe your past head coach shouldn't be so shady...

 

[Zdiddy513]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8_F1XaEfNE
Just watched Mick's post-game comments and I couldn't believe he said he doesn't believe in home-court advantage. Considering how much he complained about fans not showing up the first few years and how he has thanked us in recent years it is just bizarre. Also the facts show that home teams win 75% of their games in college hoops which is ridiculous. I love how he isn't afraid to voice his opinion but he is way off here imo.

 

[mdchick]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8_F1XaEfNE
Just watched Mick's post-game comments and I couldn't believe he said he doesn't believe in home-court advantage. Considering how much he complained about fans not showing up the first few years and how he has thanked us in recent years it is just bizarre. Also the facts show that home teams win 75% of their games in college hoops which is ridiculous. I love how he isn't afraid to voice his opinion but he is way off here imo.

He said in the pregame presser he thought 20% of the responsibility is the home crowd, 80% are players. He’s been coaching for almost 30 years I’m sure he knows it makes somewhat of a difference

 

[Zdiddy513]

He said in the pregame presser he thought 20% of the responsibility is the home crowd, 80% are players. He’s been coaching for almost 30 years I’m sure he knows it makes somewhat of a difference

I saw that as well and think that's a fair assessment but it's completely opposite of what he said here lol. "I believe if they are 81-5 at home it's because of their coaching and their talent, not their crowd." Just was kind of shocking to me he would say that.

 

[justinhub2003]

I saw that as well and think that's a fair assessment but it's completely opposite of what he said here lol. "I believe if they are 81-5 at home it's because of their coaching and their talent, not their crowd." Just was kind of shocking to me he would say that.

It’s not shocking though. Zero fans played In those games, but nick Moore, shake Milton, semi O, and sterling brown did.


A crowd can get a player going but none the less it’s the player that wins games.

We just proved it. They have a great crowd and yet very little talent on the floor and we kicked their ass.

 

[WAITE HOYT 2]

It’s not shocking though. Zero fans played In those games, but nick Moore, shake Milton, semi O, and sterling brown did.


A crowd can get a player going but none the less it’s the player that wins games.

We just proved it. They have a great crowd and yet very little talent on the floor and we kicked their ass.

The crowd can help with focus but in the end I agree with you it is the players who impacts the game. It's fun to believe crowd noise and such rev's up the players but I have to believe if he isn't motivated by the competition and what is at stake then crowd noise won't help.

With that all said there is a advantage to playing at home but I don't think it is the crowd as much as other factors. Travel, shooting background, routines and so forth.

 

[waterhead]

Another sign of the IQ Evans plays with...yesterday we're pushing it down the floor, not a full blown transition opportunity, but we were on the move. And Evans sees Moore in front of him on the left side and waves him through to clear out via baseline to the other corner so we have spacing to start our possession. That's like having a coach on the floor. He has a tremendous understanding of how we need to be spaced. I don't even remember what happened on that possession but that's just one of those little things. The game moves slow enough for guys like him, Clark, and Cumberland that they not only do their own jobs, but can get other guys in position and teach them on the fly.

It is definitely a luxury to have guys like Evans and Clark out there helping coach do his job. It doesn't hurt that Cumberland doesn't need a lot of coaching either. Kyle is getting much better with his decision making.

You probably wouldn't think all of this by watching coach pace the sidelines...but I also think it's a very good thing he is out there directing traffic the whole game. Especially on D and press etc. He still has to remind players to run to their spot at times...but it can be complicated at times. If he can avoid watching us make mistakes (real time) that will hurt us...why would we not want him to be yelling on the sidelines all game long? I watch other coaches sit on the bench with their mouth shut most of the game. I would imagine their players are making mistakes too during the games that could be corrected before something bad happens.

I think he micro manages defense and press but not so much on offense. He lets the players figure that out more on their own and this is where Evans and Clark come in handy.

 

[waterhead]

The crowd can help with focus but in the end I agree with you it is the players who impacts the game. It's fun to believe crowd noise and such rev's up the players but I have to believe if he isn't motivated by the competition and what is at stake then crowd noise won't help.

With that all said there is a advantage to playing at home but I don't think it is the crowd as much as other factors. Travel, shooting background, routines and so forth.

I agree for the most part but at times the crowd does help. When we got down 17 or 18 points against Houston the crowd was energizing us after almost every made basket. Hearing a loud crowd can put a boost of adrenaline in some of the players. Some of them may not need it as much. On the road you have to be able to provide your own adrenaline. I think Kyle feeds off the crowd and I think Moore does a little as well. Gary, Jake, and Jarron are usually in business mode no matter where we are.

 

[sedziobs]

the facts show that home teams win 75% of their games in college hoops

When you factor in that non-conference home teams are often heavy favorites (buy games), it's not as big of an advantage as you would think. Last year, home teams won 59% of conference games.

Kenpom found that there's about a 3 point home court advantage, and that it is better explained by fouls than any other stat. So it seems that crowds have more of an effect on the officials than the players.
kenpom.com/blog

 

[waterhead]

When you factor in that non-conference home teams are often heavy favorites (buy games), it's not as big of an advantage as you would think. Last year, home teams won 59% of conference games.

Kenpom found that there's about a 3 point home court advantage, and that it is better explained by fouls than any other stat. So it seems that crowds have more of an effect on the officials than the players.
kenpom.com/blog

Great points! A lot of that home court stuff comes down to playing blowout teams. The crowd can/or does affect officiating sometimes. I think the home court seems closer to 5 points than 3 to me...but there is no science in that claim. I would assume shooting woes would also play a part. Last year we were one of the best FG% at home and one of the worst on the road. I don't think you can explain that with officiating. I think depth perception and comfortability play a big role.

The science here is that road teams shoot about 3% points less on average on the road than at home. I don't know what Kenpom has to say about that.

 

[waterhead]

Great points! A lot of that home court stuff comes down to playing blowout teams. The crowd can/or does affect officiating sometimes. I think the home court seems closer to 5 points than 3 to me...but there is no science in that claim. I would assume shooting woes would also play a part. Last year we were one of the best FG% at home and one of the worst on the road. I don't think you can explain that with officiating. I think depth perception and comfortability play a big role.

The science here is that road teams shoot about 3% points less on average on the road than at home. I don't know what Kenpom has to say about that.

I think last year we were close to 10% points difference at home vs road games in terms of FG%. 3 point FG's was like 7% if my memory serves me.

 

[waterhead]

I think last year we were close to 10% points difference at home vs road games in terms of FG%. 3 point FG's was like 7% if my memory serves me.

Just a brief glance on Team Rankings last year. We were close to top 25 with home FG% and somewhere near 300 on the road. 11% difference. 57% to 46%. Chalk some of that up to playing horrible teams at home and tougher teams on the road but we had one of the largest spreads in CBB. Probably top 10 largest spreads or close to it.

 

[Zdiddy513]

When you factor in that non-conference home teams are often heavy favorites (buy games), it's not as big of an advantage as you would think. Last year, home teams won 59% of conference games.

Kenpom found that there's about a 3 point home court advantage, and that it is better explained by fouls than any other stat. So it seems that crowds have more of an effect on the officials than the players.
kenpom.com/blog

Teams winning 60% of home conference games is a huge difference. Even if its just the crowd influencing refs it still effects the results of the games. I agree that the players determine more yada yada I'm just saying it was weird to hear Cronin say that.