UConn Thread

[jacobkdoyle]

This site needs to be renamed bearcatsb*tching.com.

Like putting the program back at least 5 years is a good solution at this point. Join the 1200 club, support the program, pony up some $$$ to get rid of TT then instead of watching games on your DVR.

I can see why people pay to not come back here.

The thing that has set the program back was the hiring of Tuberville. I don't understand how you can watch the stuff he has done for 3 years and still offer unwavering support. The stunt he pulled in the BYU game last week was the final straw for me. I will never defend this coach ever again. If you choose to, great. But you can't act like there aren't legitimate reasons to question where the program is today. I care about the program, NOT the coach. You can call it b*tching, you can call it whatever you want. But imo we will never be a constant player in the American, let alone in college football. And that's not good enough, especially when you consider where we were under the previous 3 coaches.

 

[Bearcat_NTS]

This site needs to be renamed bearcatsb*tching.com.

Like putting the program back at least 5 years is a good solution at this point. Join the 1200 club, support the program, pony up some $$$ to get rid of TT then instead of watching games on your DVR.

I can see why people pay to not come back here.

I will not give a dollar of my money to support this football program as long as Tuberville is the HC.

 

[Patrick Bateman]

Report: George O’Leary resigns as UCF’s head coach http://wp.me/p14QTT-1vEN

 

[Patrick Bateman]

The thing that has set the program back was the hiring of Tuberville. I don't understand how you can watch the stuff he has done for 3 years and still offer unwavering support. The stunt he pulled in the BYU game last week was the final straw for me. I will never defend this coach ever again. If you choose to, great. But you can't act like there aren't legitimate reasons to question where the program is today. I care about the program, NOT the coach. You can call it b*tching, you can call it whatever you want. But imo we will never be a constant player in the American, let alone in college football. And that's not good enough, especially when you consider where we were under the previous 3 coaches.

Prove how Tuberville has set the program back.

Last two games over 40K, I believe 3 of 4 games over 40K

Dantonio never won more than 8 games and he was in C USA. He went 4-7 his second year.

CBJ was 14-11 after two years.
Dantonio 11-12 after two years and he was 2nd, 6th and 4th in CUSA and the BE the last year. Career 19-17 at UC.
Last three coaches total 76-38 for average of 8.4 - 4.2 per season.

I would argue with being in the G5 and with UC's budget, 9-3 is about max ceiling average per year and holds true per the last 9 years.

I choose to support the program just like 40K other fans yesterday. I may not agree with everything TT does and the redzone offense is a mess. He does recruit well. The thing I can do that helps UC the most is support the programs and the university as a whole, including TT.

Two years ago UCF was 12-1 beating PSU and Louisville and beating Baylor in the Fiesta bowl and had an NFL QB. People were saying they were ahead of UC in pecking or for a P5 invite. Hoard last night on the post game show said that in Newport RI for AAC media days that UCF coach O"Leary was irate that he was not picked to win the AAC. He felt he had a team that could win the AAC. UCF is not 0-8 and O'Leary is out as a coach. Stability is tough to sustain in any conference.

 

[M64W]

SITES LIKE THS ONE!

Sites like this one are set up for the negative people, the b-tchers and complainers. It is cheaper then a psychiatrist. Kiel goes 26-35 (75%), 2 TD passes, runs for 1 TD, scores 37 points (the most given up by UCONN all year), all this in a misty rain, and some people on this site can't find one good thing that took place. After a while, I hate to even read this site. It is scary to think about the number of stupid people that think they're smart. Makes me sick!

 

[jacobkdoyle]

We had 21 players in the NFL when Tuberville took over. Not one has been drafted since he became the coach. How many on this current roster are going to get drafted?

He hasn't won a bowl game.

He hasn't beaten a ranked team.

He said himself that he's done playing in big time games.

He has had 7 D Coordinators in 8 years.

In his 11 losses at UC, we average to lose by 16.4 ppg.

He punts down 14 on 4th and 9 with 4 minutes left. Then elects to take the loss by not even bothering to call his timeouts.

You say "if" we didn't have TO we could've won our games this year. But TO and undisciplined play have become staples. We have 8 TO and 25 penalties in our 3 losses this year.

Also, when comparing Dantonio, you have to consider where the program was when he took over. We were 31-41 the last 6 years of Minter with only 6 players drafted in that time. Only 3 bowl games, which were all losses.

For Tuberville, the prior 6 years were 57-21 with 17 players drafted. 5 bowl games, 3 wins.

He has done less with more. And I haven't even mentioned the stadium renovations, which along with the prior coach's success, boost our recruiting prowess.

And Tuberville hasn't produced a 10 win season (he's need a miracle to do it this year). We had 5 10 win seasons in the 6 years before Tuberville.

He has taken us back from where we have been for nearly a decade. There's no denying it. He has simply done less with more.

 

[jacobkdoyle]

Sites like this one are set up for the negative people, the b-tchers and complainers. It is cheaper then a psychiatrist. Kiel goes 26-35 (75%), 2 TD passes, runs for 1 TD, scores 37 points (the most given up by UCONN all year), all this in a misty rain, and some people on this site can't find one good thing that took place. After a while, I hate to even read this site. It is scary to think about the number of stupid people that think they're smart. Makes me sick!

Not everyone has to agree with each other all the time ya know. Just bc some of us don't think "Coach T" is perfect, doesn't make us any less of fans. I don't apologize for having expectations.

And FYI, I thought Kiel was fine yesterday. Not sure how/why he got the job back though after losing the QB competition during the bye. I guess with Tubs, maybe the squeaky wheel gets the grease.

 

[M64W]

OKAY, HERE YOU GO

Not everyone has to agree with each other all the time ya know. Just bc some of us don't think "Coach T" is perfect, doesn't make us any less of fans. I don't apologize for having expectations.

And FYI, I thought Kiel was fine yesterday. Not sure how/why he got the job back though after losing the QB competition during the bye. I guess with Tubs, maybe the squeaky wheel gets the grease.

stats:
kiel is 96-146 (65.8%) 1195 yards 7 TD 5 int and a rating of 143.5
Moore is 83-144 (57.6%) 1280 yards 7 TD 5 int and a rating of 141.4

Junior over a freshmen

 

[jacobkdoyle]

stats:
kiel is 96-146 (65.8%) 1195 yards 7 TD 5 int and a rating of 143.5
Moore is 83-144 (57.6%) 1280 yards 7 TD 5 int and a rating of 141.4

Junior over a freshmen

Look who they have played against though. Can't just post the stats without that context.

 

[Patrick Bateman]

We had 21 players in the NFL when Tuberville took over. Not one has been drafted since he became the coach. How many on this current roster are going to get drafted?

He hasn't won a bowl game.

He hasn't beaten a ranked team.

He said himself that he's done playing in big time games.

He has had 7 D Coordinators in 8 years.

In his 11 losses at UC, we average to lose by 16.4 ppg.

He punts down 14 on 4th and 9 with 4 minutes left. Then elects to take the loss by not even bothering to call his timeouts.

You say "if" we didn't have TO we could've won our games this year. But TO and undisciplined play have become staples. We have 8 TO and 25 penalties in our 3 losses this year.

Also, when comparing Dantonio, you have to consider where the program was when he took over. We were 31-41 the last 6 years of Minter with only 6 players drafted in that time. Only 3 bowl games, which were all losses.

For Tuberville, the prior 6 years were 57-21 with 17 players drafted. 5 bowl games, 3 wins.

He has done less with more. And I haven't even mentioned the stadium renovations, which along with the prior coach's success, boost our recruiting prowess.

And Tuberville hasn't produced a 10 win season (he's need a miracle to do it this year). We had 5 10 win seasons in the 6 years before Tuberville.

He has taken us back from where we have been for nearly a decade. There's no denying it. He has simply done less with more.

I am aware of the numbers and bowl W-L's. Simply prove to me how the program is worse off and how he has set it back. TT has gone 9-4 the past two years, those 9 wins is more in a season than Minter, Dantonio, Murphy, Currey, Gottfried, Staub, Mason, Callahan, Rice, Studley, Blackburn etc...

3 of 4 games 40K plus fans have shown up and one of those was a FCS team. There are definite NFL players on the roster so that number will only go up starting this year. You also fail to mention that TT followed a coach that recruited one DE in two years and focused on skill positions.

I understand that we had 5 ten win seasons in the past 6 years. That is simply hard to sustain, the last 10 win season before that run was before 1962.

 

[jacobkdoyle]

I am aware of the numbers and bowl W-L's. Simply prove to me how the program is worse off and how he has set it back. TT has gone 9-4 the past two years, those 9 wins is more in a season than Minter, Dantonio, Murphy, Currey, Gottfried, Staub, Mason, Callahan, Rice, Studley, Blackburn etc...

3 of 4 games 40K plus fans have shown up and one of those was a FCS team. There are definite NFL players on the roster so that number will only go up starting this year. You also fail to mention that TT followed a coach that recruited one DE in two years and focused on skill positions.

I understand that we had 5 ten win seasons in the past 6 years. That is simply hard to sustain, the last 10 win season before that run was before 1962.

I think I just did. Look at the coaches you compare him against from the past...notice anyone missing? Maybe the last 2 we had? Seems to suggest to me that we are going a step back, if you have to skip multiple coaches altogether to make a comparison.

We just got a brand new stadium. One of those games was the opener, one was a Thurs night against Miami FL, and one was homecoming. The fans aren't coming out bc of anything Tuberville is doing.

Which players exactly are going to get drafted this year? Or next?

 

[M64W]

Drafted Players

If a player is talented, they will get drafted. Over the last two years, if any players were going to get drafted, they would have been recruited by Jones, not Tuberville.

 

[Bearcat_NTS]

Miami FL just fired Al Golden. So much for Tubby boy's marquee win.

 

[jacobkdoyle]

If a player is talented, they will get drafted. Over the last two years, if any players were going to get drafted, they would have been recruited by Jones, not Tuberville.

Butch wasn't perfect. I agree with that. And that is definitely a risk you take as a stepping-stone type job...the guy may be motivated to leave for the next thing, and isn't quite as focused on keeping something stable left behind. But let's not kid ourselves, the cupboard was far from bare.

By year 3, a former Big 12 and SEC coach should know how to put the pieces in place on the offensive and defensive lines to get the job done. And as was mentioned earlier, the skill position players weren't an issue.

 

[Patrick Bateman]

I think I just did. Look at the coaches you compare him against from the past...notice anyone missing? Maybe the last 2 we had? Seems to suggest to me that we are going a step back, if you have to skip multiple coaches altogether to make a comparison.

We just got a brand new stadium. One of those games was the opener, one was a Thurs night against Miami FL, and one was homecoming. The fans aren't coming out bc of anything Tuberville is doing.

Which players exactly are going to get drafted this year? Or next?

Let me paraphrase,

Since 1960, 3 coaches for UC have won 9 or more games in a season, TT, CBJ and BK. You are looking at a very small sample size, 6 years, well 5 out of 6. In the grand scheme of things, BK and CBJ (minus one year) are outliers. So far we have dropped back from 10 wins to 9 per season and while having highest attendance ever. If UC has taken step back right now does not appear to be more than a half step, not saying that it can't happen but there is a lot of FB left this year.

I feel that Tuberville will do fine here. He recruits well, is well respected. I don't agree with everything he does but I am far from calling him a loser. I know what people want and being in the G5 with limited funds sustaining 10 wins is very difficult and statistically in last 9 years before Tubs averaged 8-4.

Parker Ehinger probably has the best chance to get drafted this year.
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000496308/article/top-senior-prospects-for-2016-draft-top-120

 

[Patrick Bateman]

I will not give a dollar of my money to support this football program as long as Tuberville is the HC.

So you want the FB team to tank to fire the coach to kill current recruiting for years all while not investing one dollar to the program? All while UC will have to pay his buyout as well. Great way to treat your alumni

 

[jacobkdoyle]

Let me paraphrase,

Since 1960, 3 coaches for UC have won 9 or more games in a season, TT, CBJ and BK. You are looking at a very small sample size, 6 years, well 5 out of 6. In the grand scheme of things, BK and CBJ (minus one year) are outliers. So far we have dropped back from 10 wins to 9 per season and while having highest attendance ever. If UC has taken step back right now does not appear to be more than a half step, not saying that it can't happen but there is a lot of FB left this year.

I feel that Tuberville will do fine here. He recruits well, is well respected. I don't agree with everything he does but I am far from calling him a loser. I know what people want and being in the G5 with limited funds sustaining 10 wins is very difficult and statistically in last 9 years before Tubs averaged 8-4.

Parker Ehinger probably has the best chance to get drafted this year.
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000496308/article/top-senior-prospects-for-2016-draft-top-120

I get what you're saying when you come at it from the entire history. I just see the more recent momentum coming to a halt. I don't feel like our coach has big plans. I don't feel like he has any fire in him. That punt thing @BYU was the nail in the coffin. Told me all I needed to know, and confirmed a lot of suspicion.

 

[Patrick Bateman]

UC was 3-3 last year and won out. I agree with some momentum seems to be slowed but there is a lot of season left, I am not ready to toss this season out already. The AAC is strong this year with 3 ranked teams and UC has had a tough Conf and Non conf schedule to this point. I am pretty sure that TT does have one big plan and that is the same one Bohn has, to get to a P5.

And BTW butch only had 10 wins one year, the other years he was 4-8 and he was 9-3 when he left. He was 1-4 against ranked teams and best win was 11/5/2011 at #21 Pitt a team that ended 6-7 and unranked at end of 2011.

Funny you mentioned the kicking thing, we were talking about this at the game when Diaco did about the complete opposite calling every time out even though down 3 possessions with less than 4 mins in game.

 

[TheLongHaul]

So you want the FB team to tank to fire the coach to kill current recruiting for years all while not investing one dollar to the program? All while UC will have to pay his buyout as well. Great way to treat your alumni

He was the same way with Mick early on. I wouldn't be too worried about his dollar.

 

[waterhead]

stats:
kiel is 96-146 (65.8%) 1195 yards 7 TD 5 int and a rating of 143.5
Moore is 83-144 (57.6%) 1280 yards 7 TD 5 int and a rating of 141.4

Junior over a freshmen

I agree Keil should have never lost his job due to injury. For those arguing that did not happen it did. It's not like he has been pulled a few times from games leading up to this because he wasn't playing well. Moore played well in his injury absence and Keil did not get it back immediately upon his return. Plain and simple classic case of losing job to injury. Perhaps a little bit of a scare is just what he needed though.

Acting as if someone won the job back because of a between game practice competition is laughable. Keil is a great QB...he was just getting "loose" with his decisions in the game. His three main issues can ALL be resolved simply by erroring on the side of caution. INT's, taking too many hits, and throwing into double coverage. Perhaps the thought of losing his job will help him make better decisions.

I have nothing against Moore. If Keil doesn't use this teaching moment to his advantage...I would not hesitate to switch back.