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waterhead said:
Very interesting! It would be interesting to see what MAW and McNeal do with this bunch on the floor. Outside of a few high turnover games early on MAW has the 3rd highest TS% on the team (to Vogt and Sorolla) but his ORTG is only better than Moore, McNeal, and Harvey (because of TO's I would guess). McNeal is 2nd lowest in ORTG and tied for last in TS%. Moore is last in both categories so far.

If MAW can take care of the ball...he could be a decent PG option.
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yeah that turnover rate for MAW is gonna destroy any efficiency stats.
 
cincrulz11 said:
taken from Justin Berg on twitter, but i think this is a pretty positive sign. also of note is this doesn't include our 1 game vs a horrible team.




Through 7 games, UC has played only 95 possessions with Jarron Cumberland, Keith Williams, Trevon Scott and Chris Vogt all on the floor together.

Per http://hooplens.com that foursome is shredding teams:

1.19 pts per poss scored
0.79 ppp allowed
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This is also not counting the Alabama A&M game when Jarron didn't play which I think would have made this stat higher.
 
cincrulz11 said:
yeah that turnover rate for MAW is gonna destroy any efficiency stats.
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Does FTR come into play for ORTG? I would guess it does. McNeal, Harvey, Davenport and Cumberland are getting to the line. Missing FT's doesn't help when you get there but not getting there doesn't help either.
 
cincrulz11 said:
yeah that turnover rate for MAW is gonna destroy any efficiency stats.
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I think his turnover rate will continue to shrink as the season progresses. From an analytics stand point the team plays better with McNeal on the court but I just don't know how you keep MAW off the court if he continues to show signs of improvement.

As for McNeal.... The guy has so much heart and hustle but he doesn't know his role, he is not the star, his role is defense and dribble drive, attack the basket, kick it out to the wings...… But he is a great team guy... If you watch his highlights at New Mexico he attacks the rim and plays great defense.... I don't know if its JB's offense but McNeal should not have the green light to shoot from anywhere that is not under the rim when driving to the basket.... His FG% speaks for itself, I know its early and things could improve but I do see MAW taking his spot in the starting rotation before the season is over.

Side note.... MAW and Mike Saunders are going to be so fun together to watch in the next few years
 
cincrulz11 said:
taken from Justin Berg on twitter, but i think this is a pretty positive sign. also of note is this doesn't include our 1 game vs a horrible team.




Through 7 games, UC has played only 95 possessions with Jarron Cumberland, Keith Williams, Trevon Scott and Chris Vogt all on the floor together.

Per http://hooplens.com that foursome is shredding teams:

1.19 pts per poss scored
0.79 ppp allowed
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Does Hooplens give a full report on plus minus? How much does it cost?
 
waterhead said:
I got a kick out of listening to Cronin much of the time so I always tuned in...but they weren't all that informative.
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I always watched his pregame interviews just to see what was happening in the background. There were always ridiculous things going on. Last year Jarron would tie his shirt around his neck like a cape and shoot underhanded three pointers.
 
sedziobs said:
I always watched his pregame interviews just to see what was happening in the background. There were always ridiculous things going on. Last year Jarron would tie his shirt around his neck like a cape and shoot underhanded three pointers.
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I used to watch to see who was on the floor early...but yes there were some interesting things to watch in the background
 
Yikes.

Last years ticket resell was great. This season you can go to tonight’s game for as cheap as 0 dollars or 1 dollar. Plus 3 dollars in seller fees.

I do think the excitement around the program has faded a bit. And UC football competing for conference championship doesn’t help
 
justinhub2003 said:
Yikes.

Last years ticket resell was great. This season you can go to tonight’s game for as cheap as 0 dollars or 1 dollar. Plus 3 dollars in seller fees.

I do think the excitement around the program has faded a bit. And UC football competing for conference championship doesn’t help
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I think most fans are reactionary and impatient.

Sounds about right. I am sure you can relate
 
waterhead said:
I think most fans are reactionary and impatient.

Sounds about right. I am sure you can relate
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From the way everyone around here reacted to me, I thought my issues were an isolated thing.

I feel like tickets are so cheap that... if you hated mick and wanted change then you should be in those seats.

I’ll admit though, watching a bad team makes it a lot harder to leave the comfort of your home, to go out to Clifton where it’s cold, you pay 10 bucks to park and you end up walking 5 blocks to the arena.
 
justinhub2003 said:
From the way everyone around here reacted to me, I thought my issues were an isolated thing.

I feel like tickets are so cheap that... if you hated mick and wanted change then you should be in those seats.

I’ll admit though, watching a bad team makes it a lot harder to leave the comfort of your home, to go out to Clifton where it’s cold, you pay 10 bucks to park and you end up walking 5 blocks to the arena.
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When you play 4 games in a row with 3 OT's and one that could have been...to teams that you should beat...it's gonna create some questions and kill some buzz.

Some think there should be no initiation period at all and some would hope there would be none but can understand if there is.
 
justinhub2003 said:
Yikes.

Last years ticket resell was great. This season you can go to tonight’s game for as cheap as 0 dollars or 1 dollar. Plus 3 dollars in seller fees.

I do think the excitement around the program has faded a bit. And UC football competing for conference championship doesn’t help
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I fully expect every game to be just like this.
 
This is not a Chris Vogt game, we can’t get him the ball inside offensively and defensively he can’t guard the 3, tre Scott at the 5 and 4 guards with Davenport playing the 4 at times
 
Looks like Vermont is going to get out of their shooting slump tonight......shocker.
 
Hope we brought our FT shooting chops tonight because we'll likely shoot a lot of them if Vermont keeps fouling at this rate.
 

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