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Bearcat_NTS said:
He cannot handle well enough to be a 3, he doesn't have the lateral quickness to defend a 3, his decision making is too questionable to be a 3. What I should have said is that in UC's offense he will always be a 4, with the lack of depth in the frontcourt he will play almost exclusively at the 4.
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Fair enough. I would agree with that.
 
Kilpatrick and Parker will grab some minutes at the 3 at times, but gentlemen, G. Wright will back Bishop up. He's not being brought in to play walk on minutes. You have to get past this theory that if he is from a small conference he has no talent.

As far as Wilks goes, I totally agree with B_NTS and have said as much. The thin frontline will dictate Wilks play mostly at the 4. However, that could be used to the teams advantage.
 
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Wilks lack of skills at at the SF position are what dictate his playing the 4. He was recruited as a SF but never developed the necessary skills to play that position. If he logs serious minutes this team may be in trouble. Perhaps he can calm down and help against a zone and be able to guard someone who is limited offensively. In a highly uptempo offense he can be defense but so far UC under Mick has never resembled uptempo.
 
Don't write Wilks off at the three. I understand he hasn't exhibited the skills yet, but he may surprise. It depends on how hard he works over the summer, and what MC is having him focus on.
 
Has anyone heard any more information on when a decision could be made on his status? It just seems like one of those things that should be done in a timely fashion, since the kid isn't being investigated for eligibility issues or anything. It would be great to get another player that apparently has some talent, and just as importantly, has Div. I experience, regardless of conference size.
 
david aka the TYZ said:
Why not?

Mick has always recruited players to play uptempo and this team finally points to that. We saw them employ some uptempo last year in the post season when Cash was running the point. I fully think they'll be an uptempo team next year and in years to come.
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We will see some uptempo in the Non-Conference play, but I really feel when it comes to the crux of the Big East season it will fade away as always.
 
funny, I remember the "we finally have the horses to play up tempo" last year. I'll believe it when I see it. Four straight years and the offense has been as close to stall ball as possible. One of the big reasons is Gates, and guess what, he is still on the roster.
 
TheLongHaul said:
funny, I remember the "we finally have the horses to play up tempo" last year. I'll believe it when I see it. Four straight years and the offense has been as close to stall ball as possible. One of the big reasons is Gates, and guess what, he is still on the roster.
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It was also said that we "finally have the depth to run, and can play 10-11 deep" Now its "well we had too many guys to be cohesive" Gotta love that logic.
 
Bearcat_NTS said:
It was also said that we "finally have the depth to run, and can play 10-11 deep" Now its "well we had too many guys to be cohesive" Gotta love that logic.
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Again NTS you're taking his comments out of context. I have no problem with your disagreements just the logic behind them. Mick was talking in terms of being a team that played together and his inability to define roles for them last season.
 
bearcat jeff said:
Again NTS you're taking his comments out of context. I have no problem with your disagreements just the logic behind them. Mick was talking in terms of being a team that played together and his inability to define roles for them last season.
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Yes but in years past he has spoke about our lack of depth being a major hinderance. He said we will finally have the horses to run and play 10-11, he said we would begin to resemble his Murray St. Teams, I wasn't expecting an undefeated season but UC never even closely resembled that style. Now looking back he is claiming that we had too many guys to define roles, just sounds like another excuse. I also don't like he threw the two best players of last years team under the bus. I don't think he even believes half the stuff he says, just anything to take the blame off of himself.

I can already picture the post game interview, "You know Chuck we just lost the third leading scorer in our history, it's gonna take a while when you rely on so many young guys"

And another, "Chuck we are relying on guys like Thomas who is only in his second year and he only has been playing ball since he was 14. Cash is just a second year player, same with Park, you can't win with young players at this level.

One more, "Chuck, Depaul is a great team, they've got some real talent, they only lost to Uconn by 15, a couple of wins and they could get in the discussion for the CBI"
 
TheLongHaul said:
funny, I remember the "we finally have the horses to play up tempo" last year. I'll believe it when I see it. Four straight years and the offense has been as close to stall ball as possible. One of the big reasons is Gates, and guess what, he is still on the roster.
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Vaughn was a big reason we couldn't go uptempo. Coupled with Cash's inexperience that forced Mick to use Vaughn at PG. Gates would be as effective/ineffective at uptempo as he is in a half court game. For the most part big guys are never effective in uptempo gameplans. Use them to set pics and crash the offensive glass and get in the way on defense. Gates can actually do all those things well. I think Thomas would play well uptempo and Wilks would see time at the 4. Gates will ride the bench this year if he doesn't fit in to Mick's gameplan.
 
Bearcat_NTS said:
Yes but in years past he has spoke about our lack of depth being a major hinderance. He said we will finally have the horses to run and play 10-11, he said we would begin to resemble his Murray St. Teams, I wasn't expecting an undefeated season but UC never even closely resembled that style. Now looking back he is claiming that we had too many guys to define roles, just sounds like another excuse. I also don't like he threw the two best players of last years team under the bus. I don't think he even believes half the stuff he says, just anything to take the blame off of himself.

I can already picture the post game interview, "You know Chuck we just lost the third leading scorer in our history, it's gonna take a while when you rely on so many young guys"

And another, "Chuck we are relying on guys like Thomas who is only in his second year and he only has been playing ball since he was 14. Cash is just a second year player, same with Park, you can't win with young players at this level.

One more, "Chuck, Depaul is a great team, they've got some real talent, they only lost to Uconn by 15, a couple of wins and they could get in the discussion for the CBI"
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You have to have the horses to run. Did you watch the fastbreak last season? They were routinely beat in the press by teams going to the sideline and over the top as the trap came. The team played solid defense for the most part and rebounded well. They didn't have the skills to run a fastbreak offense and Cash and Parker were up and down due to a lack of experience.
 
No offense to anyone that has been posting here and I don't mean to be a prick because this convo is interesting and all, but it has nothing to do with Greer Wright. Was wondering if you could move all this to a separate thread. I keep looking for updates on Greer and whether he gets his waiver, but none of the posts in the last few pages have anything to do with that. Sorry if I have offended anyone with this post.
 
bearcat jeff said:
You have to have the horses to run. Did you watch the fastbreak last season? They were routinely beat in the press by teams going to the sideline and over the top as the trap came. The team played solid defense for the most part and rebounded well. They didn't have the skills to run a fastbreak offense and Cash and Parker were up and down due to a lack of experience.
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I didn't believe that they had the horses to run, Mick is the one who made that claim.
 
ucdave said:
No offense to anyone that has been posting here and I don't mean to be a prick because this convo is interesting and all, but it has nothing to do with Greer Wright. Was wondering if you could move all this to a separate thread. I keep looking for updates on Greer and whether he gets his waiver, but none of the posts in the last few pages have anything to do with that. Sorry if I have offended anyone with this post.
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My thoughts also, Dave.
 
david aka the TYZ said:
Vaughn was a big reason we couldn't go uptempo. Coupled with Cash's inexperience that forced Mick to use Vaughn at PG. Gates would be as effective/ineffective at uptempo as he is in a half court game. For the most part big guys are never effective in uptempo gameplans. Use them to set pics and crash the offensive glass and get in the way on defense. Gates can actually do all those things well. I think Thomas would play well uptempo and Wilks would see time at the 4. Gates will ride the bench this year if he doesn't fit in to Mick's gameplan.
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So was Mick just unaware of Vaughn's capabilities? Because it was him to said they would be a running team and "finally had the horses". Fact is you still have a slow Gates this year, and if Bishop is back you have a slow SF. Both those two are horrible in the uptempo style.
 
TheLongHaul said:
So was Mick just unaware of Vaughn's capabilities? Because it was him to said they would be a running team and "finally had the horses". Fact is you still have a slow Gates this year, and if Bishop is back you have a slow SF. Both those two are horrible in the uptempo style.
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I think he thought Cash would run point and Vaughn could play completely off the ball and just be used as a shooter. Probably also thought Lance would look better than he did. I'm sure he knew it would be a work in progress, but going into last year I don't think it was unreasonable to think they could be uptempo. Stuff didn't work out for more than one reason and Mick changed his gameplan to the slow style we saw. I think this year he learned some things about letting certain players dictate what the team was going to do and I don't think that will happen in the future.
 
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