'13 VA SG Troy Caupain (Commit)

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I saw this on YouTube it is the second half of a all-star game that Troy competed in.
 
L-T said:
Good article. Sounds like a great addition to the team. I just wonder what kind of speed he has. It would be nice to get some guards with Peyton Siva/Russ Smith level speed to go along with a strong skill level as well.
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Speed is a nice attribute, but you don't have to be fast if you have savvy. Steve Logan is a perfect example of this. Knowing how to use your body, understanding the game, and ability to score off contact, or get to the line, are huge and I believe Caupain has all the above. Did I read the 15.1 rebounds a game right? Wow!!!
 
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bearcat jeff said:
Speed is a nice attribute, but you don't have to be fast if you have savvy. Steve Logan is a perfect example of this. Knowing how to use your body, understanding the game, and ability to score off contact, or get to the line, are huge and I believe Caupain has all the above. Did I read the 15.1 rebounds a game right? Wow!!!
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We've been missing these traits the past couple of seasons. I'm really excited about what this guy brings to the table. As he develops, I think he'll be one of the guys that has 20 points at the end of game and you wonder how that happened only to realize that he was drawing contact and hitting his FTs.
 
So I watched that video kg5 just posted and I have a couple thoughts.

1. Wow, some of those guys playing aren't very good. Troy was head and shoulders above all the guys on his team.
2. Because of #1, will it be tough for Troy to adjust to the high D1 game?
3. Troy is a gifted passer. Sees the floor well and seemed to deliver the pass in the perfect shooting position.
4. Holy cow that floor was TINY!!! LOL
 
bearcat jeff said:
Speed is a nice attribute, but you don't have to be fast if you have savvy. Steve Logan is a perfect example of this. Knowing how to use your body, understanding the game, and ability to score off contact, or get to the line, are huge and I believe Caupain has all the above. Did I read the 15.1 rebounds a game right? Wow!!!
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I look at Steve Logan as the exception rather than the rule. One thing that stands out, expecially when watching the NCAA tournament teams this year, and in general watching the better teams around the country all season long, is the level of speed I see compared to ours. Our speed inside is pretty good, but at the guard position, not so good. Steve Logans dont come around very often, but there is speed everywhere. Mick just doesn't seem to get it. He talks a good game, wants to press and run, but always backs off that talk as the season goes on because we lack the speed to do it.

The 15.1 rebounds is amazing. Just hope, as Jason points out, that that his stat sheets didn't get stacked against inferior competition. There wasn't a whole lot written about him this year, and the fact that he is only 3-stars raises some question as to what are we missing here. His numbers are just off the charts. Why not a higher rating? Why not more news about him?
 
L-T said:
I look at Steve Logan as the exception rather than the rule. One thing that stands out, expecially when watching the NCAA tournament teams this year, and in general watching the better teams around the country all season long, is the level of speed I see compared to ours. Our speed inside is pretty good, but at the guard position, not so good. Steve Logans dont come around very often, but there is speed everywhere. Mick just doesn't seem to get it. He talks a good game, wants to press and run, but always backs off that talk as the season goes on because we lack the speed to do it.

The 15.1 rebounds is amazing. Just hope, as Jason points out, that that his stat sheets didn't get stacked against inferior competition. There wasn't a whole lot written about him this year, and the fact that he is only 3-stars raises some question as to what are we missing here. His numbers are just off the charts. Why not a higher rating? Why not more news about him?
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Watch the tape from the all-star game that kg5 posted. Much better competition and he definitely belongs. 3 stars doesn't bother me.
 
Gotta wonder if he would've signed here if the news of the Big East breaking up would've come out before he signed. I remember one of his main reasons of signing here was it was his dream to play in MSG at the Big East Tourney since attending it as a kid. I'm glad we got his name in ink, although I do feel bad he'll never get to fulfill his dream.

As far as the speed conversation is concerned. I think speed is overrated. Yeah it's nice to be able to blow by somebody, but in college there's always someone down low waiting for you. More important to me is the ability to get a good shot off and this kid seems to know how to do it. Also smart players know how to finish and use their bodies and get to the line. Parker showed this ability, but most players nowadays want to be streetballers and break an ankle or beat you to the rim rather than using the rules of basketball to your advantage. There are so many advatages the offensive player has. Defenders can barely blink when defending a player straight up. And then players want to jump away from the player to get their shot off. All our bigs do this and our guards have been bad at it as well. I like guys that go for contact and then get their shot off. Kemba Walker was a perfect example of this and why a 9-9 conference team made such a good run once tourney time started and defenders got called for fouls. Caupain shows this ability and that is what excites me the most about him.
 
L-T said:
I look at Steve Logan as the exception rather than the rule. One thing that stands out, expecially when watching the NCAA tournament teams this year, and in general watching the better teams around the country all season long, is the level of speed I see compared to ours. Our speed inside is pretty good, but at the guard position, not so good. Steve Logans dont come around very often, but there is speed everywhere. Mick just doesn't seem to get it. He talks a good game, wants to press and run, but always backs off that talk as the season goes on because we lack the speed to do it.

The 15.1 rebounds is amazing. Just hope, as Jason points out, that that his stat sheets didn't get stacked against inferior competition. There wasn't a whole lot written about him this year, and the fact that he is only 3-stars raises some question as to what are we missing here. His numbers are just off the charts. Why not a higher rating? Why not more news about him?
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Trey Burke was a 3-star, SK was a 3 star, plenty of good 3 star guys. Micks job is too find some of those diamonds in the rough and build the team around them and 1-2 centerpiece recruits (Cash, Gates, Stephenson, Lawrence, etc.). Not always easy, but the more we win, the easier it is to find some of these guys.
 
These evaluations are about a year old but they give great insight to Troy's game:

Player: 6’3 Troy Caupain
Hometown: Cosby, Virginia
AAU Team: Team Loaded 17U
Class: 2013
Evaluation: The #2 prospect on Phenom Hoop Report’s Top 25 list from the Phenom 150 event held in Winston-Salem, NC just a few short weeks ago, Caupain stood out in Pittsburgh as well. On the final day of competition, Caupain displayed an energy level and love for the game while many other players’ body language indicated a desire to be anywhere but the gym. The 6’3 lead guard has garnered recent attention from high-level programs Cincinnati, Missouri, and Virginia and for good reason. His motor is turned on not only on the offensive end – he utilizes his long arms to clear off defensive possessions with rebounds and pushes the break in any direction he pleases. Put up 17 points in Team Loaded’s win over a talented New York Rens squad (featuring the Jam Fest National Top 10 #9 Jermaine Lawrence) with a combination of explosive moves off the bounce, finishes around the hoop in transition, and creating offense off of his stellar defense. Caupain posted huge rebounding numbers for the position at Cosby (VA) and there’s no question he’ll be a factor on the boards at the next level. If he keeps defense as his priority and doesn’t force things too much in the half-court, Caupain may be a household name to college basketball fans sooner than later. Needs to focus on fine tuning his midrange game – gets by almost anyone in front of him put can over penetrate at times. Also needs to learn to move more consistently away from the ball as help side defenders in college basketball recover more quickly on ball reversals than any AAU/High School competition he sees now.

Player: 6’3 2013 PG/SG Troy Caupain
March 29th, 2012 Evaluation: First of all, don’t let the 6’3 listing fool you, Caupin plays MUCH bigger than that due to his freakishly long arms. The sturdily built lead guard did it all on Sunday – led the break and finished every way imaginable. Most impressively for the collegiate level was his knack at absorbing contact and finishing. Has the kind of body control/subtle movement while in the air off the bounce that simply can’t be taught. Many great attacking point guards have this. Troy also happens to be a kid that always looks like he’s smiling – he has a true love for the game and it shows. Range out to 20’, plays best with the ball in his hands but isn’t built like a typical PG. Would like to see him in some PNR situations or on an island defensively against a high major D1 guard, but these events are what they are. The X-Factor propelling Troy this far up the rankings was his tenacious rebounding. He went after missed jumpers on both ends all day. I was told by his coach at the event that he averaged 12 rebs/gm for his HS squad and it didn’t surprise me a bit. Playing off the ball, negotiating screens, and defending perimeter talent with that extra gear are areas for Caupin to focus on.

Have to be excited about his future in Cincy after reading that!
 
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These evaluations are about a year old but they give great insight to Troy's game:

Player: 6’3 Troy Caupain
Hometown: Cosby, Virginia
AAU Team: Team Loaded 17U
Class: 2013
Evaluation: The #2 prospect on Phenom Hoop Report’s Top 25 list from the Phenom 150 event held in Winston-Salem, NC just a few short weeks ago, Caupain stood out in Pittsburgh as well. On the final day of competition, Caupain displayed an energy level and love for the game while many other players’ body language indicated a desire to be anywhere but the gym. The 6’3 lead guard has garnered recent attention from high-level programs Cincinnati, Missouri, and Virginia and for good reason. His motor is turned on not only on the offensive end – he utilizes his long arms to clear off defensive possessions with rebounds and pushes the break in any direction he pleases. Put up 17 points in Team Loaded’s win over a talented New York Rens squad (featuring the Jam Fest National Top 10 #9 Jermaine Lawrence) with a combination of explosive moves off the bounce, finishes around the hoop in transition, and creating offense off of his stellar defense. Caupain posted huge rebounding numbers for the position at Cosby (VA) and there’s no question he’ll be a factor on the boards at the next level. If he keeps defense as his priority and doesn’t force things too much in the half-court, Caupain may be a household name to college basketball fans sooner than later. Needs to focus on fine tuning his midrange game – gets by almost anyone in front of him put can over penetrate at times. Also needs to learn to move more consistently away from the ball as help side defenders in college basketball recover more quickly on ball reversals than any AAU/High School competition he sees now.

Player: 6’3 2013 PG/SG Troy Caupain
March 29th, 2012 Evaluation: First of all, don’t let the 6’3 listing fool you, Caupin plays MUCH bigger than that due to his freakishly long arms. The sturdily built lead guard did it all on Sunday – led the break and finished every way imaginable. Most impressively for the collegiate level was his knack at absorbing contact and finishing. Has the kind of body control/subtle movement while in the air off the bounce that simply can’t be taught. Many great attacking point guards have this. Troy also happens to be a kid that always looks like he’s smiling – he has a true love for the game and it shows. Range out to 20’, plays best with the ball in his hands but isn’t built like a typical PG. Would like to see him in some PNR situations or on an island defensively against a high major D1 guard, but these events are what they are. The X-Factor propelling Troy this far up the rankings was his tenacious rebounding. He went after missed jumpers on both ends all day. I was told by his coach at the event that he averaged 12 rebs/gm for his HS squad and it didn’t surprise me a bit. Playing off the ball, negotiating screens, and defending perimeter talent with that extra gear are areas for Caupin to focus on.

Have to be excited about his future in Cincy after reading that!
 
Freshman Caupain Looks To Make Point

By Dan Hoard on July 17, 2013 8:49 PM | No TrackBacks
As a senior at Cosby HS near Richmond, VA last year, Troy Caupain averaged 27 points and 15 rebounds. But when he joins the Bearcats this fall, Caupain will be looking to pile up assists since he is expected to play point guard at the college level.

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"We were able to see Troy enough to realize that this guy is a point guard," said UC head coach Mick Cronin. "He's 6'3" and he's still only 17; he won't turn 18 until six or seven games into the season. But he's a natural point guard. It's the one position - kind of like quarterback in football - where there are probably some things that you're just born with. He's comfortable with the ball in his hands and he sees the entire court."

Caupain says that Coach Cronin wasn't the first person to see point guard potential in his future.

"My uncle realized it was time to be a guard because I wasn't going to be 6'8" or taller," said Caupain. "So he worked with me to build up my ball handling, my basketball IQ, and my court awareness. I took it to mean that I was going to be a point guard and ever since then, I dedicated myself toward doing that every time that I went to the gym."

"I remember recruiting Kenny Satterfield and a lot of the services said that he wasn't a point guard because he was 6'2" and he scored a lot of points in high school," said Cronin. "But when you watch a guy play, you can see what he's comfortable with and it really wasn't a hard thing with Troy. When the ball is in his hands he's very comfortable and he doesn't really feel pressure. When some guys get pressured, they put their head down, they get nervous, and they speed up. When Troy sees pressure it doesn't rattle him. He just makes a simple pass and is calm with the ball."

Caupain was named the Player of the Year in Richmond last year and finished his career as his school's all-time leader in scoring average and rebounds. That led to comparisons to a former DePaul star that spent 17 years in the NBA.

"People tell me that I remind them of Rod Strickland back when he played for the Wizards," said Caupain. "He was a floor general on the court - he could get a bucket when his team needed it, but he looked to involve his teammates. I like to smile, be a leader, and get my teammates involved in the game.

"When I was young, (Strickland's) son played on my little cousin's AAU team, so I used to see him all the time and we used to go to his house and play basketball and stuff."

Caupain's ability to find open teammates figures to put him in the mix to replace Cashmere Wright as Cincinnati's starting point guard.

Does Troy expect to win the job?

"That's not my call," Caupain told me. "But I'm working hard to try to earn that spot - yes."

"I'm excited about him because he's going to make other guys better," said Cronin. "That's the key. He's going to get other guys a lot of easy baskets."

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JackBauer151 said:
Freshman Caupain Looks To Make Point

By Dan Hoard on July 17, 2013 8:49 PM | No TrackBacks
As a senior at Cosby HS near Richmond, VA last year, Troy Caupain averaged 27 points and 15 rebounds. But when he joins the Bearcats this fall, Caupain will be looking to pile up assists since he is expected to play point guard at the college level.

Caupain Richmond paper.jpg

"We were able to see Troy enough to realize that this guy is a point guard," said UC head coach Mick Cronin. "He's 6'3" and he's still only 17; he won't turn 18 until six or seven games into the season. But he's a natural point guard. It's the one position - kind of like quarterback in football - where there are probably some things that you're just born with. He's comfortable with the ball in his hands and he sees the entire court."

Caupain says that Coach Cronin wasn't the first person to see point guard potential in his future.

"My uncle realized it was time to be a guard because I wasn't going to be 6'8" or taller," said Caupain. "So he worked with me to build up my ball handling, my basketball IQ, and my court awareness. I took it to mean that I was going to be a point guard and ever since then, I dedicated myself toward doing that every time that I went to the gym."

"I remember recruiting Kenny Satterfield and a lot of the services said that he wasn't a point guard because he was 6'2" and he scored a lot of points in high school," said Cronin. "But when you watch a guy play, you can see what he's comfortable with and it really wasn't a hard thing with Troy. When the ball is in his hands he's very comfortable and he doesn't really feel pressure. When some guys get pressured, they put their head down, they get nervous, and they speed up. When Troy sees pressure it doesn't rattle him. He just makes a simple pass and is calm with the ball."

Caupain was named the Player of the Year in Richmond last year and finished his career as his school's all-time leader in scoring average and rebounds. That led to comparisons to a former DePaul star that spent 17 years in the NBA.

"People tell me that I remind them of Rod Strickland back when he played for the Wizards," said Caupain. "He was a floor general on the court - he could get a bucket when his team needed it, but he looked to involve his teammates. I like to smile, be a leader, and get my teammates involved in the game.

"When I was young, (Strickland's) son played on my little cousin's AAU team, so I used to see him all the time and we used to go to his house and play basketball and stuff."

Caupain's ability to find open teammates figures to put him in the mix to replace Cashmere Wright as Cincinnati's starting point guard.

Does Troy expect to win the job?

"That's not my call," Caupain told me. "But I'm working hard to try to earn that spot - yes."

"I'm excited about him because he's going to make other guys better," said Cronin. "That's the key. He's going to get other guys a lot of easy baskets."

I'd love to hear from you at [email protected]

If you Twitter, you can follow my tweets at http://twitter.com/Dan_Hoard

And I'm on Facebook at www.facebook.com/dan.hoard.1

http://www.gobearcats.com/blog/2013/07/freshman-caupain-looks-to-make-point.html
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Well there is your starting pg Cronin already loves him
 
Def excited to see him play this fall. Hopefully he is everything that is mentioned in this article. It sure would be nice to see some of our new freshman contribute this season.
 
Played three seasons at Cosby High School in Midlothian, Va., where he finished as the school's leader in career rebounds (347) and assists (230) while ranking second in career points (1,449) ... Averaged 26.0 points, 15.1 rebounds and 3.5 assists during his senior season, helping the Titans to a 26-6 record and a district championship ... Scored a career-high 48 points against Matoaca High School as a senior ... Named a two-time Dominican District player of the year ... Tabbed the Central Region player of the year and earned first team all-state honors ... Named a Top 50 shooting guard by 247Sports.com ... coached by Ron Carr.
 

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