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[psax889906]

As of Sunday morning there are now 14 undefeated teams remaining in Div. 1 college basketball... 14 out of over 300.

Our Bearcats are one of those 14.

 

[ready2go]

It is good to see the team shoot the ball well last night.

But, How many 3's can one team take in a game? I saw more of the same from last years team. Throw the ball around the 3 point line. Then jack a 3 up. Yes they were open looks, but we've seen inconsistent shooting from this team before.

I want to see more of an outside inside game. Not just pass around the 3 and take the shot. Def need more passes into the low paint and more penetration from the guards. Now is the time to work on it, especially vs these teams

 

[psax889906]

The offensive flow and rhythm is light years ahead of last year... to compare the two is crazy, imo... they did a near exceptional job last night of moving the ball quickly and passing up the good look, making the extra pass and getting the great look... as Mick Cronin said in the post game presser UV's defense was dictating that they play from the perimeter... It's not quite a fact yet, but it's becoming more and more evident that this team shoots the ball 100% better from long range than last year's.

 

[ready2go]

The offensive flow and rhythm is light years ahead of last year... to compare the two is crazy, imo... they did a near exceptional job last night of moving the ball quickly and passing up the good look, making the extra pass and getting the great look... as Mick Cronin said in the post game presser UV's defense was dictating that they play from the perimeter... It's not quite a fact yet, but it's becoming more and more evident that this team shoots the ball 100% better from long range than last year's.

Teams shouldnt dictate what your own team does. It should be vise versa

IMO this team will be exposed in big east play with this offense. Shooting a lot of 3's will lead to pointless droughts, as we've seen

 

[UCalum08]

I totally agree with the Psax. Usually I am extremely quick to get on the team for doing nothing with the ball around the outside then jack up a ton of three's but tonight..... not the case! I was surprisingly impressed with the movement on offense, def. refreshing thing to see. Even if they did take a lot of three's tonight, they were in the flow of the offense and even better, they were all feeling it a bit which was good to see. Parker was a bit frustrating to watch last night, but the rest of the guards looked solid.

 

[UCalum08]

Teams shouldnt dictate what your own team does. It should be vise versa

IMO this team will be exposed in big east play with this offense. Shooting a lot of 3's will lead to pointless droughts, as we've seen

I think you are over analyzing a bit too much. We have players that can shoot the ball. Let them shoot when it is a quality shot. There was nothing wrong with the selection last night. And in BE games, certain styles of play with dictate a game, that is just a fact. Don't you think if we get in a mild drought, we will make a change and go to the basket? I have a little faith that we have the players and coaches to realize that and make it happen.

 

[Thegreatone]

Teams shouldnt dictate what your own team does. It should be vise versa

IMO this team will be exposed in big east play with this offense. Shooting a lot of 3's will lead to pointless droughts, as we've seen

You will ever be happy. Mick is 8-0 and has his best class coming in. I am not saying punch your NCAA tickets but your constant pessimism is painful.

If UC gets in the tournament. It won't be good enough to last.

If they get to two, no big deal we should get there.

What will it take to make you happy this year?

Weren't you the guy who wanted Steve Lavin??

 

[psax889906]

Teams shouldnt dictate what your own team does. It should be vise versa

IMO this team will be exposed in big east play with this offense. Shooting a lot of 3's will lead to pointless droughts, as we've seen

It's not like they came down the floor, made one pass and then jacked it up from deep though... they took their time, looked inside and if it wasn't there, which it wasn't most of the time, they found the (WIDE) open man more often than not and guess what?... they made half of them... the stats don't lie and thus far this team is shooting much, much better from three than last year's squad... two reasons why:

Better shot selection and replacing LS and DV. Deonta was always a "volume" shooter and Lance never really found his stroke from outside last year. The guys know when to shoot and when to pass this year and on top of all of that- they're finding the hot hand. Rashad went 3-3 from 3 last night... Cash had FIVE treys.

I do understand your concerns and believe me... I have them as well... I just don't have them at near the level you appear to...

 

[ready2go]

I totally agree with the Psax. Usually I am extremely quick to get on the team for doing nothing with the ball around the outside then jack up a ton of three's but tonight..... not the case! I was surprisingly impressed with the movement on offense, def. refreshing thing to see. Even if they did take a lot of three's tonight, they were in the flow of the offense and even better, they were all feeling it a bit which was good to see. Parker was a bit frustrating to watch last night, but the rest of the guards looked solid.

I would agree this teams ball movement is better than last year.
Still it is the same system. High ball screens at the top of the key from the post players. Last night the Cats shot 14-28 from 3. 50%! Incredible. 42 of the 92 points came from 3. It would be nice to see that everynight. All I am saying is that why not work on the low post game vs these cup cake teams. Be 2 dimensional instead of 1. Put it on film that you can get the ball down low as well as shoot the 3.

The wide open 3's are because these teams arent as athletic as the Big East. They were too slow and out physicalled

If you put it on film the rest of the Big East will have to practice defending the low block as well as the 3.

 

[ready2go]

I think you are over analyzing a bit too much. We have players that can shoot the ball. Let them shoot when it is a quality shot. There was nothing wrong with the selection last night. And in BE games, certain styles of play with dictate a game, that is just a fact. Don't you think if we get in a mild drought, we will make a change and go to the basket? I have a little faith that we have the players and coaches to realize that and make it happen.

They have gone on an 8 minute drought this season already

 

[psax889906]

I would agree this teams ball movement is better than last year.
Still it is the same system. High ball screens at the top of the key from the post players. Last night the Cats shot 14-28 from 3. 50%! Incredible. 42 of the 92 points came from 3. It would be nice to see that everynight. All I am saying is that why not work on the low post game vs these cup cake teams. Be 2 dimensional instead of 1. Put it on film that you can get the ball down low as well as shoot the 3.

If you put it on film the rest of the Big East will have to practice defending the low block as well as the 3.

You really think the Big East has no concern whatsoever with Yancy Gates as is?

Question: Why have these cupcakes all been packing it into the paint and playing zone against UC?

Answer: Because of Yancy freaking Gates.

Now I'm not saying it will be that way in the Big East, because it won't. Teams will have the size and athleticism to match up man to man. The point is Yancy is a big threat and every team UC plays knows that.

 

[psax889906]

I would agree this teams ball movement is better than last year.
Still it is the same system. High ball screens at the top of the key from the post players. Last night the Cats shot 14-28 from 3. 50%! Incredible. 42 of the 92 points came from 3. It would be nice to see that everynight. All I am saying is that why not work on the low post game vs these cup cake teams. Be 2 dimensional instead of 1. Put it on film that you can get the ball down low as well as shoot the 3.

The wide open 3's are because these teams arent as athletic as the Big East. They were too slow and out physicalled

If you put it on film the rest of the Big East will have to practice defending the low block as well as the 3.

Completely disagree. Darnell Wilks in particular was EXCELLENT last night at passing up multiple "good" looks from three to make the extra pass for the wide open three. It had nothing to do with the other team's lack of athleticism.

 

[ready2go]

You will ever be happy. Mick is 8-0 and has his best class coming in. I am not saying punch your NCAA tickets but your constant pessimism is painful.

If UC gets in the tournament. It won't be good enough to last.

If they get to two, no big deal we should get there.

What will it take to make you happy this year?

Weren't you the guy who wanted Steve Lavin??[/QUOTE]

AHAHAH!
UMM carefull where you go with that...

Rivals and ESPNU have Lavins recruiting class ranked #2 and #3 for next year

http://ncaabasketball.fanhouse.com/...t-caps-steve-lavins-st-johns-recruiting-haul/

 

[psax889906]

You will ever be happy. Mick is 8-0 and has his best class coming in. I am not saying punch your NCAA tickets but your constant pessimism is painful.

If UC gets in the tournament. It won't be good enough to last.

If they get to two, no big deal we should get there.

What will it take to make you happy this year?

Weren't you the guy who wanted Steve Lavin??[/QUOTE]

AHAHAH!
UMM carefull where you go with that...

Rivals and ESPNU have Lavins recruiting class ranked #2 and #3 for next year

http://ncaabasketball.fanhouse.com/...t-caps-steve-lavins-st-johns-recruiting-haul/

No one has ever questioned Lavin's ability to get recruits. And the guy is a decent coach, but that team with what, nine seniors?... just lost to Fordham. I wouldn't fall in love too much with the Johnnies new coach.

 

[ready2go]

You really think the Big East has no concern whatsoever with Yancy Gates as is?

Question: Why have these cupcakes all been packing it into the paint and playing zone against UC?

Answer: Because of Yancy freaking Gates.

Now I'm not saying it will be that way in the Big East, because it won't. Teams will have the size and athleticism to match up man to man. The point is Yancy is a big threat and every team UC plays knows that.

Pretty sure you just made my point there.

Teams arent as athletic and physical as the Big East to match up

 

[psax889906]

Pretty sure you just made my point there.

Teams arent as athletic and physical as the Big East to match up

But that has nothing to do with ball movement and getting the open look from three. So your point still evades me.

 

[ready2go]

No one has ever questioned Lavin's ability to get recruits. And the guy is a decent coach, but that team with what, nine seniors?... just lost to Fordham. I wouldn't fall in love too much with the Johnnies new coach.

So now its a two way street.

Mick's first year he got a pass cuz he was dealing with all this and that and it wasnt his players

Lavin is in the same boat. His 2011 class is ranked very high. Lets give him a couple years

 

[psax889906]

So now its a two way street.

Mick's first year he got a pass cuz he was dealing with all this and that and it wasnt his players

Lavin is in the same boat. His 2011 class is ranked very high. Lets give him a couple years

Lavin has also had more time as a HC than Mick had... with mixed results.

I never said he was a bad coach. Don't put words in my mouth. I simply implied that you shouldn't get too wrapped up in him because I'm not sure how much (if any) better he'd be than Cronin.

 

[ready2go]

Point of the matter is...

I am glad this team is winning

However I see things in these games that I don't like when it comes to big east play.

It remains to be seen if this style will work IMO

We will see

 

[ready2go]

But that has nothing to do with ball movement and getting the open look from three. So your point still evades me.

Will those 3's be open looks vs Syracuse or teams that are able to match up and go man?