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Okay I'm gonna go ahead and call bullshit on that one... :cool:

You may have gotten me with an 11 footer... but that's where I draw the line.


Speaking of dunking, hoop length, etc... How about Darnell completely blowing that breakaway jam yesterday and then getting a second opportunity and redeeming himself (until he missed the free throw) lol Not to mention Cash missing his too.


Wilks wont miss another one. As for Cash....just stop
 
One thing that ready2go and others is forgetting is that you don't want to develop bad habits as a team. While it would be nice to get the ball inside to give the low post guys some work, you can't force it inside and commit turnovers. Usually a team would switch up defenses with the way UC was shooting. Didn't happen last night. So keep shooting it. UC wins by 20 and shoots lights out and people are still not happy. Unreal. If you want to complain about the halfcourt defense last night, fine. I would agree it was lacking at times. Offensively there is nothing to complain about. They had 1 turnover in the first half and that was because of an offensive foul. They consistently got a great look and knocked them down. Rashad, Dion and Cash were all exceptional.
 
One thing that ready2go and others is forgetting is that you don't want to develop bad habits as a team. While it would be nice to get the ball inside to give the low post guys some work, you can't force it inside and commit turnovers. Usually a team would switch up defenses with the way UC was shooting. Didn't happen last night. So keep shooting it. UC wins by 20 and shoots lights out and people are still not happy. Unreal. If you want to complain about the halfcourt defense last night, fine. I would agree it was lacking at times. Offensively there is nothing to complain about. They had 1 turnover in the first half and that was because of an offensive foul. They consistently got a great look and knocked them down. Rashad, Dion and Cash were all exceptional.

What?

Shooting 28 3's I would say is a bad habbit
 
What?

Shooting 28 3's I would say is a bad habbit

Why? If they are good shots, why is it a bad habit? A bad habit would be taking contested 3s early in the shot clock or forcing shots up from the post while double teamed. Taking an open three off an extra pass is not a bad shot. I had no problem with 28 threes last night. They were good shots and the team was making them. Why stop shooting?
 
Why? If they are good shots, why is it a bad habit? A bad habit would be taking contested 3s early in the shot clock or forcing shots up from the post while double teamed. Taking an open three off an extra pass is not a bad shot. I had no problem with 28 threes last night. They were good shots and the team was making them. Why stop shooting?

Most of them in the second half were simply just for the sake of shooting. They got lazy and settled for open three's. Remember, sometimes they are open for a reason. I would have much rather preferred at least an effort to work on some other aspect of their games. The biggest problem with this cupcake schedule is developing bad habits in blow outs.
 
Most of them in the second half were simply just for the sake of shooting. They got lazy and settled for open three's. Remember, sometimes they are open for a reason. I would have much rather preferred at least an effort to work on some other aspect of their games. The biggest problem with this cupcake schedule is developing bad habits in blow outs.

And the insane amount of minutes the 2's are getting isn't a benefit what so ever I'm assuming?

I'm not completely disagreeing with your points... simply stating that there are two sides to it. There have been benefits of the schedule just as there have been detriments.
 
And the insane amount of minutes the 2's are getting isn't a benefit what so ever I'm assuming? I'm not completely disagreeing with your points... simply stating that there are two sides to it. There have been benefits of the schedule just as there have been detriments.

Good and bad...

Good cus it makes this team deeper
Bad cus come BE play will this team's 1's be able to hold up for the full game...
 
And the insane amount of minutes the 2's are getting isn't a benefit what so ever I'm assuming?

I'm not completely disagreeing with your points... simply stating that there are two sides to it. There have been benefits of the schedule just as there have been detriments.

Good point.
 
There are some posters who want to complain no matter what happens. This team is playing better now than the first game of the year. Dion has gained confidence and the first team is playing like a cohesive unit. Their outside shooting has improved, and teams can't just pack things in and dare the Cats to shoot from the outside. Their passes are crisp and the 3's they take are wide open because of their extra passes. The turovers have decreased and they make the other team work for each basket. The defense has been consistent and they were leading the NCAA in scoring defense (not sure after last night). And finally, they all root for each other and have great team chemistry. Despite all of this, people have to come on here and remain negative. I truly don't get it. By the way, this team has also heard the mantra that they haven't played anyone. As the schedule gets tougher, their intensity will pick up, just like the UD game. They have a chip on their shoulder and will prove the naysayers wrong.
 
There are some posters who want to complain no matter what happens. This team is playing better now than the first game of the year. Dion has gained confidence and the first team is playing like a cohesive unit. Their outside shooting has improved, and teams can't just pack things in and dare the Cats to shoot from the outside. Their passes are crisp and the 3's they take are wide open because of their extra passes. The turovers have decreased and they make the other team work for each basket. The defense has been consistent and they were leading the NCAA in scoring defense (not sure after last night). And finally, they all root for each other and have great team chemistry. Despite all of this, people have to come on here and remain negative. I truly don't get it. By the way, this team has also heard the mantra that they haven't played anyone. As the schedule gets tougher, their intensity will pick up, just like the UD game. They have a chip on their shoulder and will prove the naysayers wrong.

Not sure who the naysayers are.

Every coach or fan should always have questions or critiques on how to get better. I have said this teams defense has played well. However offensively I see a lot that needs to be addressed. It is all fine and dandy to shoot 50% from 3 when a team doesnt defend the 3 and packs the paint. But when the shots aren't falling you can't settle for the long jumper. Would like to see more penetration from the guards and more off the ball screens. Inside outside game. Passing quickly around the arch is not going to cut it
 
Not sure who the naysayers are.

Every coach or fan should always have questions or critiques on how to get better. I have said this teams defense has played well. However offensively I see a lot that needs to be addressed. It is all fine and dandy to shoot 50% from 3 when a team doesnt defend the 3 and packs the paint. But when the shots aren't falling you can't settle for the long jumper. Would like to see more penetration from the guards and more off the ball screens. Inside outside game. Passing quickly around the arch is not going to cut it

Find the nearest mirror.:D
 
And the insane amount of minutes the 2's are getting isn't a benefit what so ever I'm assuming?

I'm not completely disagreeing with your points... simply stating that there are two sides to it. There have been benefits of the schedule just as there have been detriments.

I never said there were no benefits, just simply stated a key flaw that I saw. Because they are so much bigger than the opposition, the three's are going to be there. These smaller teams are concerned with the size inside. Those shots definitely aren't going to be there in the Big East. What really is the point of the 2's playing if all they do is jack up threes?

All i am saying is the sorts of things hey are developing at end of games can't become habits or we will be in big trouble come big east time. It's really hard to judge how good they are at this point.
 
I never said there were no benefits, just simply stated a key flaw that I saw. Because they are so much bigger than the opposition, the three's are going to be there. These smaller teams are concerned with the size inside. Those shots definitely aren't going to be there in the Big East. What really is the point of the 2's playing if all they do is jack up threes?

All i am saying is the sorts of things hey are developing at end of games can't become habits or we will be in big trouble come big east time. It's really hard to judge how good they are at this point.

Finally

Agreed!!
 
Most of them in the second half were simply just for the sake of shooting. They got lazy and settled for open three's. Remember, sometimes they are open for a reason. I would have much rather preferred at least an effort to work on some other aspect of their games. The biggest problem with this cupcake schedule is developing bad habits in blow outs.

Seriously people, how can you complain about everything. One day you say we don't have any shooters and we can't shoot from outside. Then we shoot around 38% from three on the year so far and now we shoot it too much or don't bang it down low? We have 5 (yes 5!) guys shooting 38% or better from downtown. Those three's were good shots with the players being open. Our two starting big's are averaging 20 points combined so they still get the ball down low.

And whats with the statement "they were open for a reason." Are you assuming they were open because the other team thinks they can't shoot? Were open because we have been moving the ball pretty well on offense. The whole point is to get open shots! And how do those teams feel now that we shot the $hit out of them. Wasn't a good idea to leave them open huh! Sorry for the rant, but people need to shut the hell up and enjoy the basketball that this team is playing.:mad:
 
Seriously people, how can you complain about everything. One day you say we don't have any shooters and we can't shoot from outside. Then we shoot around 38% from three on the year so far and now we shoot it too much or don't bang it down low? We have 5 (yes 5!) guys shooting 38% or better from downtown. Those three's were good shots with the players being open. Our two starting big's are averaging 20 points combined so they still get the ball down low.

And whats with the statement "they were open for a reason." Are you assuming they were open because the other team thinks they can't shoot? Were open because we have been moving the ball pretty well on offense. The whole point is to get open shots! And how do those teams feel now that we shot the $hit out of them. Wasn't a good idea to leave them open huh! Sorry for the rant, but people need to shut the hell up and enjoy the basketball that this team is playing.:mad:

First off.
Calm down. It is just a game

2nd yes they were open for a reason. Cus Utah Valley refused to go out and guard them. Mick even said it. They packed the paint. If you really think this team is going to shoot 38% the remainder of the season or anyteam for that matter is crazy.
 
First off.
Calm down. It is just a game

2nd yes they were open for a reason. Cus Utah Valley refused to go out and guard them. Mick even said it. They packed the paint. If you really think this team is going to shoot 38% the remainder of the season or anyteam for that matter is crazy.

First, I'm plenty calm, but what I just don't understand is your need to deteriorate all the positives this team has done so far. You have constantly (nearly every post you have ever had) put this team down or found fault with something. No team ever plays perfect, ever. As long as you win it doesn't matter if you had an off night in one or two aspects of the game. I understand being pessimistic but damn man give it a break for a while, at least until they lose.

P.S. If you had told me Bishop would be shooting 54% from downtown this year through 8 games I would have said you were crazy, but thats what he has done. I know that that high of a percentage cannot be sustained, but apparently this team has really worked hard at their perimeter shooting, so why is it hard to believe they can shoot 38% for the year.
 
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Seriously people, how can you complain about everything. One day you say we don't have any shooters and we can't shoot from outside. Then we shoot around 38% from three on the year so far and now we shoot it too much or don't bang it down low? We have 5 (yes 5!) guys shooting 38% or better from downtown. Those three's were good shots with the players being open. Our two starting big's are averaging 20 points combined so they still get the ball down low.

And whats with the statement "they were open for a reason." Are you assuming they were open because the other team thinks they can't shoot? Were open because we have been moving the ball pretty well on offense. The whole point is to get open shots! And how do those teams feel now that we shot the $hit out of them. Wasn't a good idea to leave them open huh! Sorry for the rant, but people need to shut the hell up and enjoy the basketball that this team is playing.:mad:

They aren't going to win Big East games that way and their percentages are going to drop. The strength of this team will never be its ability to hit threes. And yes, they got into a pick up game at the end and just started chucking every open three. It happens to every team, but not in as many games as it has to the cats....primarily because of the schedule. It is simple as that.
 
First, I'm plenty calm, but what I just don't understand is your need to deteriorate all the positives this team has done so far. You have constantly (nearly every post you have ever had) put this team down or found fault with something. No team ever plays perfect, ever. As long as you win it doesn't matter if you had an off night in one or two aspects of the game. I understand being pessimistic but damn man give it a break for a while, at least until they lose.
P.S. If you had told me Bishop would be shooting 54% from downtown this year through 8 games I would have said you were crazy, but thats what he has done. I know that that high of a percentage cannot be sustained, but apparently this team has really worked hard at their perimeter shooting, so why is it hard to believe they can shoot 38% for the year.

Welcome to the real world. Yes, they are shooting really well. But if they score 54 points as they did against Savannah State because of an off night shooting, bad news
 
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