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[WAITE HOYT 2]

Do you know who Mick Cronin is? Do you really think he'd ever run our program like that?

If we got a "one and done" I'm sure it'd be a guy who was just undeniably talented and would be wasting his time playing college ball. I don't think we would bring in someone who was dead set on getting the hell out of here asap before even stepping on campus. There's a difference.

I can see that.

 

[justinhub2003]

I'd rather Mick find a guy who wasn't highly touted and turn them into one an done than to recruit one and one players.

 

[jacobkdoyle]

I'd rather Mick find a guy who wasn't highly touted and turn them into one an done than to recruit one and one players.

That's more what I'm saying. If you get one of the other guys who are leaving after 1 year no matter what, it better work that year. Or you need to keep getting them. That kind of thing can really mess with the culture and chemistry.

 

[WAITE HOYT 2]

I'd rather Mick find a guy who wasn't highly touted and turn them into one an done than to recruit one and one players.

I enjoy that process myself. I actually think Mick focuses on those kids.

 

[WAITE HOYT 2]

I'd rather Mick find a guy who wasn't highly touted and turn them into one an done than to recruit one and one players.

I also think our current conference affiliation dictates we operate as such.

 

[cincyguy13]

I'd rather Mick find a guy who wasn't highly touted and turn them into one an done than to recruit one and one players.

You would rather have a player like trevor moore than anthony davis, John wall, kryie irving, demarr johnson? Maybe the hottest take of all time. These types of players are as close to a sure thing as you can get in college. Yeah, the trevor moore's of the world might turn out to be good but there is a good chance they won't. Quadrie Moore, shaq thomas, sanders, Gynn, Gaines etc. If mick could get these guys he would in a heartbeat. It's not because he doesn't want them

 

[GuyfromNKY]

If a one and done fits our system I believe Mick would go after him. Then on top of that, the player needs to return interest in us. Those two things are going to eliminate almost all, if not all the one and dones from going to UC.

I believe after Mick lost out on Teague and Behanen, then Lawrence not working out, he was completely turned off by the one and done/5 star player. He doesn't want to waste his time and energy to recruit a player for several years only to have a blue blood sweep in, in the last minute and get the guy. Or have the player come to campus and disrupt team chemistry for one year. Mick has tried to get recruiting down to a science and it is working really well for him but I think this Gaffney situation is showing a limitation in his recruiting philosophy. Or maybe Gaffney told UC he doesn't have much interest.

But I do believe you need these type of players to make it far in the tournament. As someone mentioned earlier look at Demarr Johnson the Kenyon year. Heck look at Zach Collins last year at Gonzaga.

 

[GuyfromNKY]

You would rather have a player like trevor moore than anthony davis, John wall, kryie irving, demarr johnson? Maybe the hottest take of all time. These types of players are as close to a sure thing as you can get in college. Yeah, the trevor moore's of the world might turn out to be good but there is a good chance they won't. Quadrie Moore, shaq thomas, sanders, Gynn, Gaines etc. If mick could get these guys he would in a heartbeat. It's not because he doesn't want them

Of course, everyone would take Kyrie over Moore but you have to be realistic about your situation. If Mick could get those guys he would. But he understands he can't and works from there.

 

[WAITE HOYT 2]

If a one and done fits our system I believe Mick would go after him. Then on top of that, the player needs to return interest in us. Those two things are going to eliminate almost all, if not all the one and dones from going to UC.

I believe after Mick lost out on Teague and Behanen, then Lawrence not working out, he was completely turned off by the one and done/5 star player. He doesn't want to waste his time and energy to recruit a player for several years only to have a blue blood sweep in, in the last minute and get the guy. Or have the player come to campus and disrupt team chemistry for one year. Mick has tried to get recruiting down to a science and it is working really well for him but I think this Gaffney situation is showing a limitation in his recruiting philosophy. Or maybe Gaffney told UC he doesn't have much interest.

But I do believe you need these type of players to make it far in the tournament. As someone mentioned earlier look at Demarr Johnson the Kenyon year. Heck look at Zach Collins last year at Gonzaga.

Don't forget Trey Burke and Kemba Walker.

Only so many hours in a day you can chase recruits. Having a system and a realistic approach is crucial in running a program in our configuration. Understanding true interest in the program is huge for Mick. I mean what could he have done with all the time and hours wasted on the above mentioned players?

 

[cincyguy13]

Of course, everyone would take Kyrie over Moore but you have to be realistic about your situation. If Mick could get those guys he would. But he understands he can't and works from there.

I am realistic. I think mick does a good job for the most part, getting under the radar players. Some people are acting like this is by choice. It's not, we can't get these players. If we could, we would take them.

 

[jacobkdoyle]

If a one and done fits our system I believe Mick would go after him. Then on top of that, the player needs to return interest in us. Those two things are going to eliminate almost all, if not all the one and dones from going to UC.

I believe after Mick lost out on Teague and Behanen, then Lawrence not working out, he was completely turned off by the one and done/5 star player. He doesn't want to waste his time and energy to recruit a player for several years only to have a blue blood sweep in, in the last minute and get the guy. Or have the player come to campus and disrupt team chemistry for one year. Mick has tried to get recruiting down to a science and it is working really well for him but I think this Gaffney situation is showing a limitation in his recruiting philosophy. Or maybe Gaffney told UC he doesn't have much interest.

But I do believe you need these type of players to make it far in the tournament. As someone mentioned earlier look at Demarr Johnson the Kenyon year. Heck look at Zach Collins last year at Gonzaga.

Collins is an example of a one and done I wouldn't mind getting. I don't think he went into Gonzaga thinking he'd be out that fast, did he?

 

[WAITE HOYT 2]

I am not saying we wouldn't want to take those players. But their is a big risk in spending so much time and effort recruiting players you have very little chance of landing.

 

[WAITE HOYT 2]

Collins is an example of a one and done I wouldn't mind getting. I don't think he went into Gonzaga thinking he'd be out that fast, did he?

In his case I think Hard work met opportunity.

 

[cincyguy13]

I am not saying we wouldn't want to take those players. But their is a big risk in spending so much time and effort recruiting players you have very little chance of landing.

High risk, high reward. Honestly, this program isn’t in s position to get these players. Especially in today’s landscape. We aren’t in a big conference and the players coming in, don’t remember us being really good. I would like to see us step it up a notch, to maybe getting 2 top 100 type guys a class instead of the 1 we have been getting.

 

[GuyfromNKY]

High risk, high reward. Honestly, this program isn’t in s position to get these players. Especially in today’s landscape. We aren’t in a big conference and the players coming in, don’t remember us being really good. I would like to see us step it up a notch, to maybe getting 2 top 100 type guys a class instead of the 1 we have been getting.

I agree. And I think one of the guys need to be top 50, maybe every other class. Like a Jarron Cumberland every other class would be great.

 

[cincyguy13]

I agree. And I think one of the guys need to be top 50, maybe every other class. Like a Jarron Cumberland every other class would be great.

I don’t see our recruiting changing much until we make a run or two in the tourney. Like it or not, the tournament means a lot. We see what it did for huggins. A final 4, and 2 elite 8s and we started getting some of the best talent in the country.

 

[Protected1]

Villanova has high level recruits that aren’t one and done.

Unc won a ship with out anyone real one and done guys.

I what high level guys, not guys who on foot in college and the other in the nba.

Don’t bring up any bob huggins teams; last I checked he hasn’t won a championship and mostly falters early in 80% of tourneys he’s in.

We aren’t a one and done school. We had a one and done player and how did that work ? Just don’t think it will work in our system

Are we talking about Huggins' UC teams or his current WVU teams? His WVU teams have been doing damn good since he's been there. Better than us during the same period.

 

[Protected1]

I want high four and five star players. Period. Quite honestly I don't think those players want to play here or we don't have the recruiters to get them here. Besides when we have had them we haven't had a lot of success getting them exposure and/or in the NBA. (See. McClain, Biggie; Gates, Yancy; Lawrence, Jermaine) our UA deal doesn't help.

 

[GuyfromNKY]

Are we talking about Huggins' UC teams or his current WVU teams? His WVU teams have been doing damn good since he's been there. Better than us during the same period.

What is your definition of "damn good"? He made a final four and 3 sweet 16's but also missed the tournament and went to the NIT. He has only won the conference tourney once and never won the regular season. So, while it's better than Mick not really head and shoulders above Mick.

 

[jacobkdoyle]

Here we go...