2018-19 Non Conference Schedule

[jbreeds1]

I don't know. I mean we have had back to back unbelievable seasons with great teams. This year won't be like that but there's still some talent and scorers.

This probably isn't the right thread, but where does everyone think this team will stack up. Top 3 Cronin teams are obviously the sweet 16 year and the 2016-2017 2017-2018 teams, but where would this upcoming year be? Obviously time will tell but lets not act like we are going to be awful.

I think Cane is going to have a huge season. The only thing stopping that could be playing time. Hopefully Cronin lets Cane and Justin play together a lot because we all know Justin will get the nod at starting pg.

 

[GarradJ21]

I think Cane is going to have a huge season. The only thing stopping that could be playing time. Hopefully Cronin lets Cane and Justin play together a lot because we all know Justin will get the nod at starting pg.

I just really don't see JJ starting this year. I mean it wouldn't totally shock me if I was wrong, but I think he rewarded JJ for the years of work, sitting behind Caupain, and knowing who the other 4 starters were. Especially since Cane was out for a year watching and hasn't played against top talent. Now he will switch the grove around knowing Cane is ready. Now, I think here and there JJ could start but really Cronin better have Cane in there from jump.

 

[waterhead]

I don't know. I mean we have had back to back unbelievable seasons with great teams. This year won't be like that but there's still some talent and scorers.

This probably isn't the right thread, but where does everyone think this team will stack up. Top 3 Cronin teams are obviously the sweet 16 year and the 2016-2017 2017-2018 teams, but where would this upcoming year be? Obviously time will tell but lets not act like we are going to be awful.

It's hard to get the talent and scorers on the court at the same time. I don't feel like we have much in terms of ""true scoring" at the 4 and 5 spots. I think we all know Cumberland and Broome can score but we may also see a starting lineup with Scott, Brooks, Cumberland and Jenifer with a player TBD.

It sure sounds like we are going to keep a 4 and 5 on the court when we hear about making sure the other team doesn't get any free layups (as one of our main areas of focus). We need to figure out how we can get Cumberland out there with Broome and then sprinkle in some Moore, Williams, Fredericks, and Johnson out there at the same time. That is where our scoring talent lies...and some of them I would not call above average at this point. I think we have 2 above average scorers on the squad and I sure hope we see a couple more develop into that.

Defensively we should have no problems. Cumberland could struggle if we can't put 1 or 2 more scorers on the floor with him. Cane would be first choice...but I think we need one more aggressive person on the floor so we have 3 options out there who are looking to create some buckets. If not we are going to struggle to get points because we will be easy to gameplan against.

I hope we go small a lot but I'm not sure we will see as much as I would like.

 

[cincrulz11]

I don't know. I mean we have had back to back unbelievable seasons with great teams. This year won't be like that but there's still some talent and scorers.

This probably isn't the right thread, but where does everyone think this team will stack up. Top 3 Cronin teams are obviously the sweet 16 year and the 2016-2017 2017-2018 teams, but where would this upcoming year be? Obviously time will tell but lets not act like we are going to be awful.

i think people forget how hard it is to score when you have inside guys that nobody respects on offense.


we took it for granted and had 2 guys inside for a while. now we have 0. the guards are going to have to be so good this year for us to score. or the juco transfer is going to have to be a scoring machine (which is rare for first year jucos).


im also not sure i can get behind this team being better at defense. the 2 best defenders are gone. we know that despite what synergy or anything else says, broome and jenifer are both liabilities on defense. their synergy stats were helped by the fact that gary was so good and kyle wasn't really the scrub most made him out to be.


a lineup of

jenifer
broome
cumberland
scott
brooks

is going to have a very hard time of stopping guard penetration. move the juco in for brooks and its even worse.


jenifer
broome
cumberland
juco
scoot

is not better on either end than last year. i feel both sides would be significantly worse.


the american conference lost a ton of talent so i'd expect us to still be able to compete. it should be a way down year for the conference though.

 

[skylinecat]

a lineup of

jenifer
broome
cumberland
scott
brooks

is going to have a very hard time of stopping guard penetration. move the juco in for brooks and its even worse.


jenifer
broome
cumberland
juco
scoot

is not better on either end than last year. i feel both sides would be significantly worse.


the american conference lost a ton of talent so i'd expect us to still be able to compete. it should be a way down year for the conference though.

I don't think we are going to Broome and Jennifer playing significant time together.

Our big starting 5 will likely be:
Broome,
Cumberland,
Moore/Williams/Fredericks
Scott
Brooks

Our small starting 5 will be:
Broome,
Cumberland,
Moore/Williams
Fredericks
Scott

 

[cincrulz11]

I don't think we are going to Broome and Jennifer playing significant time together.

Our big starting 5 will likely be:
Broome,
Cumberland,
Moore/Williams/Fredericks
Scott
Brooks

Our small starting 5 will be:
Broome,
Cumberland,
Moore/Williams
Fredericks
Scott

ill believe jenifer wont play when i see it

 

[waterhead]

i think people forget how hard it is to score when you have inside guys that nobody respects on offense.


we took it for granted and had 2 guys inside for a while. now we have 0. the guards are going to have to be so good this year for us to score. or the juco transfer is going to have to be a scoring machine (which is rare for first year jucos).


im also not sure i can get behind this team being better at defense. the 2 best defenders are gone. we know that despite what synergy or anything else says, broome and jenifer are both liabilities on defense. their synergy stats were helped by the fact that gary was so good and kyle wasn't really the scrub most made him out to be.


a lineup of

jenifer
broome
cumberland
scott
brooks

is going to have a very hard time of stopping guard penetration. move the juco in for brooks and its even worse.


jenifer
broome
cumberland
juco
scoot

is not better on either end than last year. i feel both sides would be significantly worse.


the american conference lost a ton of talent so i'd expect us to still be able to compete. it should be a way down year for the conference though.

I understand your thoughts on D. I think we get better by replacing Kyle (on D) with a more mobile guy. We keep Cumberland in and the PG doesn't change. So we have to replace Gary and Jake. Wow! Tall order. Scott is really no slouch on D though. I think we don't lose much with Tre. He can get out on the perimeter and he can block a shot.

So we have to replace Jake and that's the big question. Williams can do it if he would buy in. He's the guy we need to "buy in" IMO...work his tail off with shooting and effort related things like rebounding and defense. He's the other wing I would like to see in the lineup and if he is that would mean he worked his butt off in the off season. Cronin won't give up that spot to a guy who isn't working hard as hell. But we went after Fredericks so maybe Cronin isn't sold on that happening. I don't think Fredericks has the raw athletic ability that Williams has though...but he likes to crash boards.

 

[waterhead]

I understand your thoughts on D. I think we get better by replacing Kyle (on D) with a more mobile guy. We keep Cumberland in and the PG doesn't change. So we have to replace Gary and Jake. Wow! Tall order. Scott is really no slouch on D though. I think we don't lose much with Tre. He can get out on the perimeter and he can block a shot.

So we have to replace Jake and that's the big question. Williams can do it if he would buy in. He's the guy we need to "buy in" IMO...work his tail off with shooting and effort related things like rebounding and defense. He's the other wing I would like to see in the lineup and if he is that would mean he worked his butt off in the off season. Cronin won't give up that spot to a guy who isn't working hard as hell. But we went after Fredericks so maybe Cronin isn't sold on that happening. I don't think Fredericks has the raw athletic ability that Williams has though...but he likes to crash boards.

Moore doesn't do much for me other than being a shooter (which is awesome to have). He just isn't a guy who can do much more with the ball. His D is pretty decent but I think he maxed out his effort there and we have seen kind of his top notch D. I don't think we saw what Williams is capable of yet...he's got so much more in the tank to give. Cronin has to get that out of him.

 

[GarradJ21]

I think Scott will show big leaps on the scoring end.

I can agree, that I don't know if we will necessarily be better on defense this year but we wont miss a beat IMO. We will be just as good.

I just still think a lot can happen with this team. Some of these guys haven't been forced to step up yet so it's hard for us to see the light at the end of the tunnel, well now they are going to have to (Scott and Brooks).

Just like it was time to see leaps in Justin Jackson on the offensive end we did. It's going to be tougher without Gary and KW for sure but we will be ok. It will be a fun year with a lot of good games on the schedule

 

[mdchick]

I think Nsoseme is our best big guy

 

[cincycpaw]

I think Nsoseme is our best big guy

I think him playing with Scott is the best 4-5 combo. That’s if the juco can really command a lot of minutes at the 3...or even the 4 for small ball.

 

[waterhead]

I think Scott will show big leaps on the scoring end.

I can agree, that I don't know if we will necessarily be better on defense this year but we wont miss a beat IMO. We will be just as good.

I just still think a lot can happen with this team. Some of these guys haven't been forced to step up yet so it's hard for us to see the light at the end of the tunnel, well now they are going to have to (Scott and Brooks).

Just like it was time to see leaps in Justin Jackson on the offensive end we did. It's going to be tougher without Gary and KW for sure but we will be ok. It will be a fun year with a lot of good games on the schedule

I could see each of those guys in the 8 point range. But they are replacing 13 and 11 points from Gary and Kyle. I could see Cumberland and Broome combining to make up for the difference left behind by Evans. But those points could be less efficient than last year since defenses won't have to sag help much on our bigs.

Bottom line is we need some decent improvement from Scott and Brooks on the offensive side if we can hope to spread the floor a little. I would almost prefer going small so we don't clog the lane (with two offensively challenged bigs) so guys like Cumberland, Broome, and Williams can get in the lane a little. We are going to see some heavy perimeter D so we will have to drive the ball.

It will be interesting to see if we go small but initial signs are pointing to a traditional lineup with a focus on preventing any easy layups. If Scott and/or Brooks were an outside threat we could clear the lane of one of them from time to time...but they aren't. No defender has to follow them out to the arc. Diarra would help a little in that regard but who knows how much we will see of him. I would hope Fredericks could help as well in this regard but it sounds like he is more of a 2/3 than a 3/4.

 

[Queens_NYC]

I could see each of those guys in the 8 point range. But they are replacing 13 and 11 points from Gary and Kyle. I could see Cumberland and Broome combining to make up for the difference left behind by Evans. But those points could be less efficient than last year since defenses won't have to sag help much on our bigs.

Bottom line is we need some decent improvement from Scott and Brooks on the offensive side if we can hope to spread the floor a little. I would almost prefer going small so we don't clog the lane (with two offensively challenged bigs) so guys like Cumberland, Broome, and Williams can get in the lane a little. We are going to see some heavy perimeter D so we will have to drive the ball.

It will be interesting to see if we go small but initial signs are pointing to a traditional lineup with a focus on preventing any easy layups. If Scott and/or Brooks were an outside threat we could clear the lane of one of them from time to time...but they aren't. No defender has to follow them out to the arc. Diarra would help a little in that regard but who knows how much we will see of him. I would hope Fredericks could help as well in this regard but it sounds like he is more of a 2/3 than a 3/4.

I'd like to see Fredericks take on a Jarrey Foster role for us where he plays like a wing on offense but can defend/rebound adequately as a 4 on defense. They both seem to be built from a similar mold.

 

[justinhub2003]

I could see each of those guys in the 8 point range. But they are replacing 13 and 11 points from Gary and Kyle. I could see Cumberland and Broome combining to make up for the difference left behind by Evans. But those points could be less efficient than last year since defenses won't have to sag help much on our bigs.

Bottom line is we need some decent improvement from Scott and Brooks on the offensive side if we can hope to spread the floor a little. I would almost prefer going small so we don't clog the lane (with two offensively challenged bigs) so guys like Cumberland, Broome, and Williams can get in the lane a little. We are going to see some heavy perimeter D so we will have to drive the ball.

It will be interesting to see if we go small but initial signs are pointing to a traditional lineup with a focus on preventing any easy layups. If Scott and/or Brooks were an outside threat we could clear the lane of one of them from time to time...but they aren't. No defender has to follow them out to the arc. Diarra would help a little in that regard but who knows how much we will see of him. I would hope Fredericks could help as well in this regard but it sounds like he is more of a 2/3 than a 3/4.

Fredericks for 100% more of a 3/4 than a 2/3... He is an elite rebounder for his size and is tough and physical. He will play the 3 and small ball 4. Mick just talked about his positional versatility being a big deal for next season.

 

[justinhub2003]

I don't know. I mean we have had back to back unbelievable seasons with great teams. This year won't be like that but there's still some talent and scorers.

This probably isn't the right thread, but where does everyone think this team will stack up. Top 3 Cronin teams are obviously the sweet 16 year and the 2016-2017 2017-2018 teams, but where would this upcoming year be? Obviously time will tell but lets not act like we are going to be awful.

Last season was the bearcats best season by far under Cronin IMO. We won the conference, won the Conference tourney and had a 2 seed. Losing a single game in the tourney does not taint that entire seasons goodness.


And I think This year's UC team will be better than most people think. We have absolutely elite length & athleticism in our front court. Like as good as Gary clark was on defense, a lot of it was because of good fundamentals and good basketball IQ. Next year has 4 bigs who all can touch 12 feet or higher, all have 35+ inch verticals, and are extremely long. Diarra for Example has 38.5" verticial and a 7'4 wingspan to go with his 6'9 frame. IF we add some patented Cronin defensive fundamentals to their all ready gifted athleticism, then we have a chance to be every bit of good defensively as we were last year if not better.


Every returning player on this season grades out extremely well on the defensive end on synergy. And All of our bigs are pretty agile and mobile for their size. I think Tre is going to be able to hit mid range jump shots and Diarra is going to be able to stretch it out to the 3 point line.


As for the guards and wings, Fredericks will allow us to play small ball with him at the 4 and Tre Scott at the 5 and be completely switchable defensively and not loose anything on the rebounding side as Cumberland, Williams, Fredericks and Scott all rebound well.

But there is no doubt about it, our scoring is going to have to come from our guards. Cumberland and Cane need to take 30 shots a game, Keith will need be aggressive and get to the rim ( and hopefully improves his shooting so it opens the lane back up for him). Trevor, IMO, will end up being one of the best shooters in the Cronin era, just a matter of when. I think Logan Johnson will contribute this season, much more than people expect too.

 

[waterhead]

Fredericks for 100% more of a 3/4 than a 2/3... He is an elite rebounder for his size and is tough and physical. He will play the 3 and small ball 4. Mick just talked about his positional versatility being a big deal for next season.

That is what I was thinking when we brought him in. A 3/4 guy who will help us in small ball lineups. Someone said the other day he was more of a 2/3 but for this team I think he makes more sense as a 3/4. The question is how will he do if he has to guard a bigger guy in the paint. He sounds physical so I would assume he can do okay there. Sounds like rebounding is not a problem for him. I think Cumberland can help with keeping a bigger guy from backing him down in the paint when we run small as well. It's hard to push him around. I think we can run Fredericks with Cumberland along with 2 other guards and still not get abused down low. Diarra can also help us when we want to play 4 out. We will have to see how far he has come in the off season. On D he still gives us some elite shot blocking ability.

 

[Cin City]

Anybody have a guess/clue when the schedule will be released?

 

[justinhub2003]

Anybody have a guess/clue when the schedule will be released?

I think it’s finalized already. Just a matter of when it’s released.

You can get the complete details on chads site tho if you don’t want to wait

 

[GarradJ21]

Should we start a new thread and just call it the 2018-2019 season?

So what's next now that the Canada tour is complete? I guess we are waiting for our schedule to officially be released and any updates in recruiting are nice but when's official practice start? I'm glad the Canada tour is over and done with as we are checking things off the list to bring us to the start of the regular season.

IMO the Canada tour should be looked at as no more than glorified summer practices that can only benefit the players. I know Cronin mentioned he looks forward to giving the guys a break when they get back, but where does it go from here as far as workouts and practices? Are they still allowed an hour a day?

 

[justinhub2003]

Should we start a new thread and just call it the 2018-2019 season?

So what's next now that the Canada tour is complete? I guess we are waiting for our schedule to officially be released and any updates in recruiting are nice but when's official practice start? I'm glad the Canada tour is over and done with as we are checking things off the list to bring us to the start of the regular season.

IMO the Canada tour should be looked at as no more than glorified summer practices that can only benefit the players. I know Cronin mentioned he looks forward to giving the guys a break when they get back, but where does it go from here as far as workouts and practices? Are they still allowed an hour a day?

October officially is the start of basketball season but yea, I *think* they can continue summer workouts when the Guys get Back from a week with their fam.


Cronin felt like he had to give them a break because he got the 10 extra practices plus got the normal 8 hours of work out (4 with cosch, 4 with strength cosch ) per week. I believe the 10 allowed extra practices are allowed to be 3 hours each (but not sure)

I think the guys are pretty well exhausted this summer. And a break will be good for them.

Actually I think they can go beyond the 8 hours of summer time practice when school starts up.