cincyguy13
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Yeah, I expected a big school or a mid tier school. But there are probably worse places to spend a couple years of you life.
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2021-22 Roster
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Yeah, I expected a big school or a mid tier school. But there are probably worse places to spend a couple years of you life.
My current depth chart and team needs:
PG: DeJulius 20 / Saunders 20
SG: Newman 10 / MAW 15 / Mason 15
SF: Davenport 10 / Newman 15 / Transfer1 15
PF: Transfer2 20 / Davenport 10 / Transfer3 10
C: Koval 20 / Transfer3 10 / Lakhin 10
Transfer 1: scoring wing
Transfer 2: balanced 4
Transfer 3: defensive big
PG: DeJulius 20 / Saunders 20
SG: Newman 10 / MAW 15 / Mason 15
SF: Davenport 10 / Newman 15 / Transfer1 15
PF: Transfer2 20 / Davenport 10 / Transfer3 10
C: Koval 20 / Transfer3 10 / Lakhin 10
Transfer 1: scoring wing
Transfer 2: balanced 4
Transfer 3: defensive big
Queens_NYC
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My updated minutes chart:
PG: DeJulius 22 / Saunders 18
SG: MAW 24 / Mason 12 / DeJulius 4
SF: Newman 22 / Davenport 8 / Mason 5 / Banks 5
PF: Davenport 20 / Transfer1 20
C: Transfer2 20 / Koval 15 / Lahkin 5
Totals:
Davenport 28
DeJulius 26
MAW 24
Newman 22
PF Transfer 20
C Transfer 20
Saunders 18
Mason 17
Koval 15
Lahkin 5
Banks 5
PG: DeJulius 22 / Saunders 18
SG: MAW 24 / Mason 12 / DeJulius 4
SF: Newman 22 / Davenport 8 / Mason 5 / Banks 5
PF: Davenport 20 / Transfer1 20
C: Transfer2 20 / Koval 15 / Lahkin 5
Totals:
Davenport 28
DeJulius 26
MAW 24
Newman 22
PF Transfer 20
C Transfer 20
Saunders 18
Mason 17
Koval 15
Lahkin 5
Banks 5
This looks about right if we don't bring in another transfer wing and if we can get a 5 who is better than Koval.My updated minutes chart:
PG: DeJulius 22 / Saunders 18
SG: MAW 24 / Mason 12 / DeJulius 4
SF: Newman 22 / Davenport 8 / Mason 5 / Banks 5
PF: Davenport 20 / Transfer1 20
C: Transfer2 20 / Koval 15 / Lahkin 5
TheRealMick
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You not winning 10 games next year with this roster. We need all former top 150 players. We need another guy at 3/4/5 that can compete for starter. No more depth players
You not winning 10 games next year with this roster. We need all former top 150 players. We need another guy at 3/4/5 that can compete for starter. No more depth players
Lmao
With the roster as it currently stands, Torvik has us at #123. We finished last season at #118. I think it's likely Newman and Saunders will beat their projected efficiency numbers. Add a few more contributors and we should be better than last year.
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cincyguy13
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You not winning 10 games next year with this roster. We need all former top 150 players. We need another guy at 3/4/5 that can compete for starter. No more depth players
That’s all we need? Why doesn’t Wes Miller just do that then?
Another day, another depth chart.
PG: DeJulius 20 / Saunders 20
SG: MAW 20 / Mason 15 / Newman 5
SF: Newman 20 / Transfer1 15 / Davenport 5
PF: Davenport 20 / Transfer2 10 / Hensley 10
C: Koval 20 / Transfer2 10 / Lakhin 10
Transfer 1: scoring wing
Transfer 2: defensive/rebounding big
PG: DeJulius 20 / Saunders 20
SG: MAW 20 / Mason 15 / Newman 5
SF: Newman 20 / Transfer1 15 / Davenport 5
PF: Davenport 20 / Transfer2 10 / Hensley 10
C: Koval 20 / Transfer2 10 / Lakhin 10
Transfer 1: scoring wing
Transfer 2: defensive/rebounding big
Cin City
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Don't forget that Banks has been placed on scholly. Also, in theory, only one of our guys for sure will be gone after next year and that is Koval. DeJulius and Newman will have the option to return another year correct? One has to think that room will be kept open for the possibility of PMac and/or Mahaffrey.
What is the thought on how we will utilize the scholarships? Any reason to believe Newman and DeJulius would go another year?
Just spitballing. No argument.
What is the thought on how we will utilize the scholarships? Any reason to believe Newman and DeJulius would go another year?
Just spitballing. No argument.
Those are good points. I have 11 players in my depth chart. Adding Banks makes 12, which leaves 1 spot open. Koval only has one year left, which opens up another spot for 2 incoming freshman next year. If any of the additional incoming transfers were seniors, that will open more spots.
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We're down to only 1 spot left?
Sorry, the more I think about this the more disappointed I get.
One of the biggest questions I had about Miller was whether he could recruit nationally and whether he could attract quality coaches to build out his staff.
So far every single person we've brought in has ties to UNC Greensboro.
Chris Lepore - UNCG assistant
Andre Morgan - Middle Tennessee State - Former UNCG assistant
Mike Roberts - Administrative role at IU - Former UNCG assistant
John Newman III - UNCG commit (transfer from Clemson)
Hayden Korval - UNCG transfer
Jarrett Hensley - UNCG transfer
3 coaches all with UNCG ties, and 3 players all with UNCG ties. Now apparently with only one spot remaining.
This is exactly what I did not want to see. If Miller doesn't absoltely hit it out of the park with his remaining spots (1 player and 1 coach???) then color me completely unimpressed.
Sorry, the more I think about this the more disappointed I get.
One of the biggest questions I had about Miller was whether he could recruit nationally and whether he could attract quality coaches to build out his staff.
So far every single person we've brought in has ties to UNC Greensboro.
Chris Lepore - UNCG assistant
Andre Morgan - Middle Tennessee State - Former UNCG assistant
Mike Roberts - Administrative role at IU - Former UNCG assistant
John Newman III - UNCG commit (transfer from Clemson)
Hayden Korval - UNCG transfer
Jarrett Hensley - UNCG transfer
3 coaches all with UNCG ties, and 3 players all with UNCG ties. Now apparently with only one spot remaining.
This is exactly what I did not want to see. If Miller doesn't absoltely hit it out of the park with his remaining spots (1 player and 1 coach???) then color me completely unimpressed.
cincrulz11
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maybe we can go by UCG next year
My depth chart includes 2 transfers. So we have 3 spots left right now. I wouldn't want to add more than 2 transfers unless at least one of them is a senior like Koval.We're down to only 1 spot left?
Loser Mentality
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I'm just glad he is putting a team together to compete. Wes's player moves to me, makes me think he's building the program he got handed the keys to.
Of course there will be tons of negativity behind some of the player moves, but I don't understand why.
Miller could be building his practice squad, to enhance his potential starters growth.
Of course there will be tons of negativity behind some of the player moves, but I don't understand why.
Miller could be building his practice squad, to enhance his potential starters growth.
We're down to only 1 spot left?
Sorry, the more I think about this the more disappointed I get.
One of the biggest questions I had about Miller was whether he could recruit nationally and whether he could attract quality coaches to build out his staff.
So far every single person we've brought in has ties to UNC Greensboro.
Chris Lepore - UNCG assistant
Andre Morgan - Middle Tennessee State - Former UNCG assistant
Mike Roberts - Administrative role at IU - Former UNCG assistant
John Newman III - UNCG commit (transfer from Clemson)
Hayden Korval - UNCG transfer
Jarrett Hensley - UNCG transfer
3 coaches all with UNCG ties, and 3 players all with UNCG ties. Now apparently with only one spot remaining.
This is exactly what I did not want to see. If Miller doesn't absoltely hit it out of the park with his remaining spots (1 player and 1 coach???) then color me completely unimpressed.
The players in the portal are as good as gone. Once you go in the portal we can recruit your spot as I understand. We have 3 spots open and need 2 home runs or at least two triples
The more I think about it the more I want to keep Dejulius. Mikey is the future but still needs to figure out how to control with his speed. MAW is good enough to facilitate an offense but can’t break down a defense. DD can create and is a good passer in the lane and rebounder. His shooting will get better.
If we are going to score we need him and another play maker
If we are going to score we need him and another play maker
I don't think anyone wants to get rid of DDJ, but we don't know what he's thinking right now. We have been in touch with at least one PG so who knows. I am sure we will try to bring in a playmaking PG if he decides to transfer. I would assume he stays though.
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Maybe I'm crazy, but I think this roster as it stands right now will be better than last years team. Better in overall wins and better in Kenpom/NET.
Why do I think that?
-Chemistry Matters.. a team full of guys who want to play hard for their coach is going to have a whole lot more success than teams who hate their coach. I've watched Mick Cronin teams that lost Jacob Evans, Kyle Washington & Gary Clark, still bond together and make the tourney even though the talent had fallen off.
-Defense Matters... A team and coach who values defense as a first priority will always raise their floor. They won't need to rely on shots falling near as much if they play lock down defense.
-Shooting matters- I think DDJ is a good shooter and will shoot far better than he did last season. Madsen is an elite shooter, MAW is a shooter, Davenport can splash, Koval can splash for a big guy. There is a legit chance that UC could run out multiple lineups where every player is a at least a 30% shooter. Even John Newman, in his healthy first 2 seasons shot over 30% from 3. He isn't a splasher but he is a credible three point shooter.
-Rim Protection Matters- This one isn't fully complete yet as I feel like defensively in terms of rim protectors and athleticism, we still have a lot of work to do. But None the less, Koval has the 3rd best block% in the country. That will come in handy and if we add more athleticism around him, that could get even better.
If DDJ decides to be a late transfer, I honestly won't be that sad. I think he can really help us But I don't believe he is a PG but rather a really undersized 2 guard. I think this team maybe long term better if Mikey starts with MAW, Newman, JD and Koval. But its also never bad to give Mikey another year under his belt before its his team to run.
Lets look at the synergy defensive grades of our team:
MAW: .72 (82% Very Good)
JD: .78 ( 68% Very Good)
DJD: .73 (80% Very Good)
Madsen: .90 (34% Average)
Mikey: .92 (29% Below Average)
Hensley: .90 (34% Average)
Koval: .79 (64% Good)
Newman (I used his pre injury soph stat, bigger sample size): .71 ( 84% Excellent)
So if DJD, MAW, Newman, JD & Koval are our starting 5, it looks like it could be a hell of a defensive lineup.. With Newman being that Lockdown wing we needed Keith to be.
Add in that, if that is your starting 5, you have shooting at all 5 spots.
its not going to win you a championship, but it will win you games that you lost last year
Why do I think that?
-Chemistry Matters.. a team full of guys who want to play hard for their coach is going to have a whole lot more success than teams who hate their coach. I've watched Mick Cronin teams that lost Jacob Evans, Kyle Washington & Gary Clark, still bond together and make the tourney even though the talent had fallen off.
-Defense Matters... A team and coach who values defense as a first priority will always raise their floor. They won't need to rely on shots falling near as much if they play lock down defense.
-Shooting matters- I think DDJ is a good shooter and will shoot far better than he did last season. Madsen is an elite shooter, MAW is a shooter, Davenport can splash, Koval can splash for a big guy. There is a legit chance that UC could run out multiple lineups where every player is a at least a 30% shooter. Even John Newman, in his healthy first 2 seasons shot over 30% from 3. He isn't a splasher but he is a credible three point shooter.
-Rim Protection Matters- This one isn't fully complete yet as I feel like defensively in terms of rim protectors and athleticism, we still have a lot of work to do. But None the less, Koval has the 3rd best block% in the country. That will come in handy and if we add more athleticism around him, that could get even better.
If DDJ decides to be a late transfer, I honestly won't be that sad. I think he can really help us But I don't believe he is a PG but rather a really undersized 2 guard. I think this team maybe long term better if Mikey starts with MAW, Newman, JD and Koval. But its also never bad to give Mikey another year under his belt before its his team to run.
Lets look at the synergy defensive grades of our team:
MAW: .72 (82% Very Good)
JD: .78 ( 68% Very Good)
DJD: .73 (80% Very Good)
Madsen: .90 (34% Average)
Mikey: .92 (29% Below Average)
Hensley: .90 (34% Average)
Koval: .79 (64% Good)
Newman (I used his pre injury soph stat, bigger sample size): .71 ( 84% Excellent)
So if DJD, MAW, Newman, JD & Koval are our starting 5, it looks like it could be a hell of a defensive lineup.. With Newman being that Lockdown wing we needed Keith to be.
Add in that, if that is your starting 5, you have shooting at all 5 spots.
its not going to win you a championship, but it will win you games that you lost last year
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