2021-22 Roster

[TheRealMick]

Maybe if we were a slow paced passive defense team. I can't imagine trying to play pressure defense with Davenport and two players slower than him on the court.

Lol you don’t get assigned positions based on your 40. Davenport probably faster than some of the guards, I know dou moved better than most guards

 

[sedziobs]

With the Bearcat eyes up I have to assume we're getting Ado. The 4/5 positions are probably going to be a bit interchangeable now, but here's a stab at the depth chart (assuming everyone stays).

PG: DeJulius 20 / Saunders 20
SG: MAW 20 / McGinnis 10 / Mason 10
SF: Newman 25 / Davenport 10 / Mason 5
PF: Davenport 15 / Koval 15 / Ody 5 / Hensley 5
C: Ado 25 / Ody 15

I'm thinking Koval will mostly play alongside Ody, with Koval acting more like a 7'1" stretch 4 at least on offense.

We could run out some extremely imposing situational defensive lineups. Imagine the length, shot blocking, and rebounding of a MAW, Newman, Ody, Koval, Ado 2-3 zone.

 

[TheRealMick]

With the Bearcat eyes up I have to assume we're getting Ado. The 4/5 positions are probably going to be a bit interchangeable now, but here's a stab at the depth chart (assuming everyone stays).

PG: DeJulius 20 / Saunders 20
SG: MAW 20 / McGinnis 10 / Mason 10
SF: Newman 25 / Davenport 10 / Mason 5
PF: Davenport 15 / Koval 15 / Ody 5 / Hensley 5
C: Ado 25 / Ody 15

I'm thinking Koval will mostly play alongside Ody, with Koval acting more like a 7'1" stretch 4 at least on offense.

We could run out some extremely imposing situational defensive lineups. Imagine the length, shot blocking, and rebounding of a MAW, Newman, Ody, Koval, Ado 2-3 zone.

I’ll sub Mickey for maw. I think he go be all defensive aac

 

[Queens_NYC]

With the addition of Ado, a couple assumptions I'm now making are:

-Either Lakhin isn't returning or the staff does not expect him to contribute next season

-Unless one of our guards abruptly leaves, the staff is not going to add another (impact) guard/wing.

 

[Loser Mentality]

This roster construction now puts the focus on the PG, SG, and SF. We now have Bigs to control the boards, which allows for the PG, SG, and SF to either stand up or sit down.

Someone will blossom into the lead dog, we just don't know who...

 

[skyblade]

Ado is the first addition I'm not in love with. Not because of him as a player, he's basically a Nysier Brooks clone and I'm very happy with that. It's because he is a super senior.

It would be nice to have some continuity at center. Perhaps Lakhin will provide that, but I suspect Lakhin is gone and with Ado/Koval both only having one year, we will need to add a transfer center or two next year.

I was thinking of next year as a rebuilding year, but Wes seems to be swinging for the fences and fully intending to make the NCAA tournament in year one. I guess I can't be mad at Miller for trying for the NCAA tournament and balancing classes, but I do wonder if we'd be better off long term with a young center who may not be as good now, but helps us more 2/3 years down the line.

 

[cincyalum2014]

I don't mind the Ado addition, he is the complete opposite of Vogt and similar to Nysier Brooks, he will get rebounds and protect the rim, he knows his role and he does it well, people get so caught up in he only scored 6 points a game. Ado and Korval protect the rim extremely well. Ody has multiple years of eligibility left, korval and Ado are one year rentals to help bridge the gap for next years class, honestly I couldnt care less if Viktor comes back or not, I don't think any of these guys are homeruns and I don't expect us to be cutting down the nets next year but I do think we will be competitive. What is baffeling to me is people were excited for guys like Rap Ivonauskes, Chris McNeal, and people were even opptomistic for Jay Sorolla, But Newmann, Ody and Ado are terrible pick ups?

 

[sedziobs]

Ado is the first addition I'm not in love with. Not because of him as a player, he's basically a Nysier Brooks clone and I'm very happy with that. It's because he is a super senior.

It would be nice to have some continuity at center. Perhaps Lakhin will provide that, but I suspect Lakhin is gone and with Ado/Koval both only having one year, we will need to add a transfer center or two next year.

I was thinking of next year as a rebuilding year, but Wes seems to be swinging for the fences and fully intending to make the NCAA tournament in year one. I guess I can't be mad at Miller for trying for the NCAA tournament and balancing classes, but I do wonder if we'd be better off long term with a young center who may not be as good now, but helps us more 2/3 years down the line.

I think Ody can play center in two years. He's not a rim protector like Ado and Koval, but I think he'll be capable of playing 25-30 minutes at the 5 if needed.

 

[sedziobs]

Since we don't have a true scorer on this team, it looks like we'll rely on DDJ and Mikey to penetrate with Davenport, MAW, Madsen, and McGinnis getting set shots from three and Ado and Ody finishing at the rim.

 

[TheRealMick]

Since we don't have a true scorer on this team, it looks like we'll rely on DDJ and Mikey to penetrate with Davenport, MAW, Madsen, and McGinnis getting set shots from three and Ado and Ody finishing at the rim.

I think in perfect world for Wes, 10 guys avg 5-11pts would be perfect. It’s totally AAUish but I love it. If everybody plays hard everybody plays. In this system it might sound dumb but you need elite finishers at rim.

 

[MDW79]

I think in perfect world for Wes, 10 guys avg 5-11pts would be perfect. It’s totally AAUish but I love it. If everybody plays hard everybody plays. In this system it might sound dumb but you need elite finishers at rim.

Hopefully it would only be a temporary approach (this year and maybe the next).

You run out a system like that year after year you're going to struggle recruiting any of the top guys.

Those guys want to go somewhere where they can showcase their skills and play. Can't imagine 10 deep rotations being very attractive to guys in the top 100.

 

[TheRealMick]

Hopefully it would only be a temporary approach (this year and maybe the next).

You run out a system like that year after year you're going to struggle recruiting any of the top guys.

Those guys want to go somewhere where they can showcase their skills and play. Can't imagine 10 deep rotations being very attractive to guys in the top 100.

It’s going be new trend. I love this approach. Sends messages if you come here you’re basically going to play if you do your part. You don’t need score 30 a night get noticed

 

[Queens_NYC]

I see the state of the roster right now as a high floor-low ceiling group, meaning I see us being somewhere between a top 60-100 team. We have a wealth of experience between our returners and newcomers and far less question marks about players' individual abilities than we did going into the last two seasons.

It would be nice to have a major alpha-like scorer already established within this group - but we have a few strong candidates for double-digit scorers in DDJ, MAW, Newman and Davenport and a host of guys like Mason, McGinnis, Koval and Ody who could thrive in secondary scoring roles.

What I like best about the new players we've brought in so far is that they combine the defensive/rebounding prowess of Cronin's teams (Newman, Ody, Ado) with the more offensive-minded players on Brannen's teams (Koval, McGinnis, Hensley).

We hopefully will never have to put out a line-up next season that has a glaring weakness for our opponents to take exploit.

 

[sedziobs]

An alpha can be detrimental if they aren't efficient. UC and UNCG were both hurt last year by their 30+ usage guys having ORtgs below 100 and true shooting % below 50. That led to offenses ranked 157 or worse despite top 100 defenses. Sharing the load could work out better. And we've got some shooters to spread the floor in crunch time.

 

[TheRealMick]

An alpha can be detrimental if they aren't efficient. UC and UNCG were both hurt last year by their 30+ usage guys having ORtgs below 100 and true shooting % below 50. That led to offenses ranked 157 or worse despite top 100 defenses. Sharing the load could work out better. And we've got some shooters to spread the floor in crunch time.

Yes, I’ll happily spread the points around to make everyone happy but low usage guys

 

[Loser Mentality]

An alpha can be detrimental if they aren't efficient. UC and UNCG were both hurt last year by their 30+ usage guys having ORtgs below 100 and true shooting % below 50. That led to offenses ranked 157 or worse despite top 100 defenses. Sharing the load could work out better. And we've got some shooters to spread the floor in crunch time.

Surprisingly we did not have an Alpha last year. Keith was no alpha, and was never groomed to be one. Nor was anyone else. So with that being said, the current returning UC players need build their offensive confidence, get good shots up, and improve their dribbling to create that balance. Deferring to Seniors that aren't Alphas handicaps their own games. Shots were available last season, Davenport sniffed that out, but not others. Hopefully with new competition within, I hope the returnees grow.

 

[skyblade]

https://twitter.com/GoodmanHoops/status/1395162748175138822

Per Jeff Goodman

From NCAA regarding players who transfer multiple times:

“In order to compete immediately after a second transfer, a student must meet either the current education-impacting disability guideline or an updated guideline that addresses a “real & imminent health and safety” threat.

Seems like Koval getting a waiver isn't a sure thing.

 

[sedziobs]

Seems like Koval getting a waiver isn't a sure thing.

Yeah, even before reading that I wasn't convinced he would get one. The new rules make it seem like waivers are going to be rare. That also makes it more likely DDJ stays. If Koval has to sit, I think Lakhin would basically take his role on my depth chart, playing like a stretch 4 on offense and a 5 on defense alongside Ody.

PG: DeJulius 20 / Saunders 20
SG: MAW 20 / McGinnis 10 / Mason 10
SF: Newman 25 / Davenport 10 / Mason 5
PF: Davenport 15 / Ody 15 / Hensley 10
C: Ado 25 / Lakhin 10 / Ody 5

 

[MDW79]

I would hope Koval is a sure thing or it makes even less sense to me than it did before.

Why would you offer a scholarship to that guy only a week or two after getting the job if you don't even know if he's going to be eligible this year? We could have used a full year to find a better player to give that spot in '22.

I was under the impression he was desperate for bodies and that's how we ended with half of UNCG's team. But he must have REALLY wanted Hayden Koval to be a part of this program if it ends being a question of if he can even play this year.

 

[Bearcat_Z]

If Koval has to sit a year or is not eligible at all, he won’t suit-up for UC.