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Bcatfollower said:
Wes striking out in the portal. Guy is in over his head.
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Still weeks to go, it's not over yet.

We will get some players, but anyone who expects to add three starters has unrealistic expectations. Fans have dreamed the transfer portal into something it really isn't. There are a lot of players in it, but there are only so many good players. Even fewer players who Wes has a prior connection to (which helps a lot in recruiting transfers).

It would take at best a top 100 (and possibly closer to top 60) transfer to bring a major upgrade over players we have. Considering there were 100 teams above us in the transfer portal, it's a challenge to get one of those players, much less two or three.

Top guys want to play against top teams (which we can't offer in the AAC) and want to play in the NCAA tournament (which we can't guarantee).

Not to mention the rumors going around that guys also want to get paid (via NIL). Chad mentioned in a recent podcast that he heard there's a guy who wanted the coach to have a half-a-million offer in order for him to even talk to them.

Player development has been and will continue to be the key to success. Most (and possibly all) of our starters for next year are currently on the team. Wes has to turn their potential into on court success.
 
skyblade said:
Still weeks to go, it's not over yet.

We will get some players, but anyone who expects to add three starters has unrealistic expectations. Fans have dreamed the transfer portal into something it really isn't. There are a lot of players in it, but there are only so many good players. Even fewer players who Wes has a prior connection to (which helps a lot in recruiting transfers).

It would take at best a top 100 (and possibly closer to top 60) transfer to bring a major upgrade over players we have. Considering there were 100 teams above us in the transfer portal, it's a challenge to get one of those players, much less two or three.

Top guys want to play against top teams (which we can't offer in the AAC) and want to play in the NCAA tournament (which we can't guarantee).

Not to mention the rumors going around that guys also want to get paid (via NIL). Chad mentioned in a recent podcast that he heard there's a guy who wanted the coach to have a half-a-million offer in order for him to even talk to them.

Player development has been and will continue to be the key to success. Most (and possibly all) of our starters for next year are currently on the team. Wes has to turn their potential into on court success.
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True, and I suppose we don’t really know who the staff is serious about in the portal. But there are guys coming off to lessor programs that invalidate some of what you’re saying. Just appears Wes is not the dynamic personality people were sold on.
 
Bcatfollower said:
True, and I suppose we don’t really know who the staff is serious about in the portal. But there are guys coming off to lessor programs that invalidate some of what you’re saying. Just appears Wes is not the dynamic personality people were sold on.
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He put together the best freshman class in the last 5+ years. Skillings, Reed and Tolentino are each individually among our top 5 recruits in the last 5 years, so he's doing something right.
 
skyblade said:
He put together the best freshman class in the last 5+ years. Skillings, Reed and Tolentino are each individually among our top 5 recruits in the last 5 years, so he's doing something right.
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That’s not a great stat. I’d say pulling Harvey and Eason was better… just couldn’t retain them.
 
Bcatfollower said:
True, and I suppose we don’t really know who the staff is serious about in the portal. But there are guys coming off to lessor programs that invalidate some of what you’re saying. Just appears Wes is not the dynamic personality people were sold on.
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Who are you referring to? Cam Hayes went to LSU. Trevon Brazile went to Arkansas. Payton Sparks decided to return to Ball St. Are there players we were talking to who committed to lower conference schools?
 
Dashawn Davis PG to Miss St.
Xavier Pinson down to Miss St & Xavier and
with Davis to Miss St ….. ?
 
I believe it's Us vs Bama for both Rayvon/Collier. We seriously need lock up a legit pro potential big. That will make it easier on the wings/guards committing when it's a pro in frontcourt. Satterfield, Logan, Demarr, Sk, Stevenson all had pro bigs on team.
 
We might not see the higher potential transfers coming to UC until we're in the Big 12 and have a better broadcast package.

UC has great history, but their overall situation for a guy looking to play, win, and get noticed is not as ideal as other locations, even if Wes is a good coach that people like.

Yeah a program like Butler hasn't been as good these past few years, but they just hired Matta, they have every single game on a national network, and they play in a conference that regularly pulls five teams to the big dance.

UC will get there in time with the Big 12. If that were not the case, I'd say the new transfer rules would be hurting UC's long-term potential much more. And we likely would not even have Wes Miller in the job because he had a development formula that was helping him win games at a lower D-1 program and could have just waited for another high major school to eventually call.
 
We might strike out, but I think it's too soon to say right now. Ezikpe is still an option, as are Tchikou, Gaines, and Terry Roberts.

We're apparently in touch with Marcus Hammond from Niagara, a 6'3" guard who can score, takes care of the ball, and limits fouls.
 
Queens_NYC said:
We made the top 6 for Sean McNeil from WVU
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He looks like a 3 and D type who would be a better version of MAW. Very low turnover and foul rates, and low usage on offense. Has attempted more threes than twos in his career, but shoots it well at 37%. No dunk attempts, bad rebounder, and doesn't get to the free throw line.
 
Queens_NYC said:
We made the top 6 for Sean McNeil from WVU
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He grew up in Boone County, so he's maybe of thinking being closer to family. I don't recall watching WVU this past year, so I don't think I saw him.

If Huggins was willing to give him a shot, he probably has something decent to work with.
 
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