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WAITE HOYT 2 said:
I don't think us speeding up the game and changing what we do best is what we need to be doing. We are not a fast break push the ball type of offense. You can't turn this team into something we are not. We didn't lose the ECU game because we slowed the game down. Jacob it really doesn't work against bad teams will change our style and push the ball. Then against good teams will slow it down. Teams need to adjust to us.
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Mick used to win games in the Big East with less talent bc we slowed things down and limited the number of possessions. That's what kept us in the games. But those were the beginning years for him and now sometimes against bad teams we need to just go out and play for 40 minutes and out-talent weaker teams. Why play chess when you can play checkers? I know Mick feels that way now too, bc he was saying on the radio show how he couldn't stand the slow walking it up the floor. If you asked ECU's coach if he wants the game to be more or less possessions against us, he'd say less 10 times out of 10. That style might not be exactly who we think we are right now, but it is who we need to be if we're going to avoid letdowns. I trust our defense to stay solid enough more times than not, if it means the game goes at a little faster pace for our offense.
 
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BTW UConn won the national title scoring 56, 55, and 53 points in the Elite8, Final 4 and Title games respectively. Not saying it is the best formula to win it all but efficiency (points per possession) is more important that points per game.
 
Bearcat_NTS said:
BTW UConn won the national title scoring 56, 55, and 53 points in the Elite8, Final 4 and Title games respectively. Not saying it is the best formula to win it all but efficiency (points per possession) is more important that points per game.
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I'm just talking about our style vs the bottom feeders.
 
jacobkdoyle said:
Mick used to win games in the Big East with less talent bc we slowed things down and limited the number of possessions. That's what kept us in the games. But those were the beginning years for him and now sometimes against bad teams we need to just go out and play for 40 minutes and out-talent weaker teams. Why play chess when you can play checkers? I know Mick feels that way now too, bc he was saying on the radio show how he couldn't stand the slow walking it up the floor. If you asked ECU's coach if he wants the game to be more or less possessions against us, he'd say less 10 times out of 10. That style might not be exactly who we think we are right now, but it is who we need to be if we're going to avoid letdowns. I trust our defense to stay solid enough more times than not, if it means the game goes at a little faster pace for our offense.
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I'm with you on this and I don't buy that you can't change your style a little when necessary. Duke stepped out of a 30 year comfort zone to play some zone defense against UL this year. Good teams can change gears and overwhelm inferior opponents with talent. Bad teams grind the game down and hope to keep things close and eke out wins through attrition. Congrats to Tulane for doing just that.

Scoring 50 points because you're playing a possession game in the NCAA tournament at an extremely high level and excellent defenses is different than the 50-49 death march we witnessed today and at ECU. This team looks lost on offense, doesn't show any kind of aggression outside of Mormon, no consistency, and turns the ball over at an alarming rate. That's not the kind of low-scoring basketball that translates into a remotely watchable product, much less wins.
 
Doogle said:
I'm with you on this and I don't buy that you can't change your style a little when necessary. Duke stepped out of a 30 year comfort zone to play some zone defense against UL this year. Good teams can change gears and overwhelm inferior opponents with talent. Bad teams grind the game down and hope to keep things close and eke out wins through attrition. Congrats to Tulane for doing just that.

Scoring 50 points because you're playing a possession game in the NCAA tournament at an extremely high level and excellent defenses is different than the 50-49 death march we witnessed today and at ECU. This team looks lost on offense, doesn't show any kind of aggression outside of Mormon, no consistency, and turns the ball over at an alarming rate. That's not the kind of low-scoring basketball that translates into a remotely watchable product, much less wins.
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we were out rebounded terribly today. We shot 38 percent from the foul line. Our style didn't beat us.
 
I don't think the style beat us, but it doesn't do us any favors. The limited possession game only works when you run a tight, efficient, regimented offense like Virginia. Ours is sloppy and slow and allows bad teams to hang around.
 
Doogle said:
I don't think the style beat us, but it doesn't do us any favors. The limited possession game only works when you run a tight, efficient, regimented offense like Virginia. Ours is sloppy and slow and allows bad teams to hang around.
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Hit the nail on the head. I am perfectly fine with being a low possession team but we don't have the personal to be a Virginia, Northern Iowa, or the mid-2000 Wisconsin teams on offense. We HAVE to push the tempo and try to score in the open court and secondary breaks. With a big man like Ellis who can run the floor as well as any big men we've had, and guys on the wing like Thomas it makes no sense to play this grind it out style. Maybe they get so tired on defense that it takes them 6-8 seconds to recover on offense? Will having a PG like Jenifer next year really help? I though getting Cashmere Wright would help that but he had lower leg injuries, I though Caupain would help that but he doesn't play with urgency. It has to change though to have ay success in the NCAA tournament. When you play a low possession game with an inefficient, turnover prone offense there is literally no margin for error even against Tulane. Louisville always seems to blow out lesser opponents, while we struggle in possession games.
 
ECU @ Tulsa tonight. Might not matter for us in the end, but I'm still hoping Tulsa loses for seeding purposes.
 
Little scuffle broke out in the UConn/Memphis game. Boatright got grabbed by the Memphis bench I guess...I just saw the replay so not sure how it happened but it looked pretty heated. They thought Boatright got punched but I didn't see that on the replay. Anyone see it live?
 
jacobkdoyle said:
Little scuffle broke out in the UConn/Memphis game. Boatright got grabbed by the Memphis bench I guess...I just saw the replay so not sure how it happened but it looked pretty heated. They thought Boatright got punched but I didn't see that on the replay. Anyone see it live?
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Just caught the end of the game. In a losing effort, Daniel Hamilton of UConn had 25 points, 13 rebounds and 7 assists. Wow! Just a freshman too.
 
Bearcat_NTS said:
Just caught the end of the game. In a losing effort, Daniel Hamilton of UConn had 25 points, 13 rebounds and 7 assists. Wow! Just a freshman too.
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That kid is a stud. Wow 7 blocks for Nichols...was this his first game back?
 
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jacobkdoyle said:
I think these teams had an incident last year too...everyone is starting to feel the pressure now that February is winding down.
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Memphis probably felt some disrespect after losing to UConn 3 times last year including getting blown out by 20+ on their home floor in the conference tournament. Although, Nichols and Goodwin are really the only guys returning from last year.
 
Had Bearcats pegged (so far)

Interesting....UConn obviously overrated, Tulsa underrated...bottom 5 are right albeit in different order



2014-15 AMERICAN ATHLETIC CONFERENCE
PRESEASON COACHES' POLL
Rank Team (First-Place Votes)
1. UConn (6)
2. SMU (5)
3. Memphis
4. Cincinnati
5. Tulsa
6. Temple
7. Houston
8. USF
9. UCF
10. East Carolina
11. Tulane
 

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