Bracketology 02/19/10

[Thegreatone]

UC is STILL listed in "the first 4 OUT" portion of bracketology.

Marquette is in the "last 4 in" portion.

The winnner will more than likely be in the tournament in the next edition. UC has a lot to do but glad to see we aren't too far away.

 

[TheFranchise]

UC is STILL listed in "the first 4 OUT" portion of bracketology.

Marquette is in the "last 4 in" portion.

The winnner will more than likely be in the tournament in the next edition. UC has a lot to do but glad to see we aren't too far away.

Does this all seem familiar to you? O wait, last year. We were in the tourny, lost at South Florida, and fell apart after that. Let's hope history doesn't repeat itself.

 

[Thegreatone]

Does this all seem familiar to you? O wait, last year. We were in the tourny, lost at South Florida, and fell apart after that. Let's hope history doesn't repeat itself.

I admit when I was watching the USF game I did think about last year.

 

[BearcatAlum1]

UC is STILL listed in "the first 4 OUT" portion of bracketology.

Marquette is in the "last 4 in" portion.

The winnner will more than likely be in the tournament in the next edition. UC has a lot to do but glad to see we aren't too far away.

We are not far away because of our out-of-conference schedule and results. While disappointing losses at X and UAB, we have some very good wins (Maryland and Vanderbilt).

Mick was on ESPNU "The Bracket" last night and Katz interviewed him regarding our NCAA chances. Here is a slight summary (best I can remember):

Katz: Why has UC separated itself in terms of schedule strength with other BigEast bubble teams?

Cronin: We tried to challenge ourselves in the out of conference. We played 3 top 20 teams in Maui, beating Maryland and Vanderbilt, and losing to Gonzaga in OT. We played "true" road games, which many BigEast teams don't do (....they typically play neutral court games) at Xavier in a double OT loss and at UAB, where we played horrible.

Cronin: The Committee said they take into consideration tough losses and close games, and want to see teams compete in the out of conference. I think we did that.

Katz: The Big East allows your team to play its way in because of the tough remaining schedule (he listed the 5 teams), as opposed to Murray State where you couldn't make up ground.

Cronin: It's the BigEast. Every game is a dog fight. It's tough to tell who will win on any given night. We need wins, period. The season is running out and we need to get wins. It starts with Marquette.

* I tried my best to remember how the short conversation went, but this is about as accurate as I can be without listening to it again. It came on at approximatley 12:15 last night, so forgive me if I'm slightly off. I talked to a few UC fans and we all agreed that Mick said the right things. He didn't make any excuses, which was nice.

"We need to win games."


I say, better late than never.

 

[Thegreatone]

We are not far away because of our out-of-conference schedule and results. While disappointing losses at X and UAB, we have some very good wins (Maryland and Vanderbilt).

Mick was on ESPNU "The Bracket" last night and Katz interviewed him regarding our NCAA chances. Here is a slight summary (best I can remember):

Katz: Why has UC separated itself in terms of schedule strength with other BigEast bubble teams?

Cronin: We tried to challenge ourselves in the out of conference. We played 3 top 20 teams in Maui, beating Maryland and Vanderbilt, and losing to Gonzaga in OT. We played "true" road games, which many BigEast teams don't do (....they typically play neutral court games) at Xavier in a double OT loss and at UAB, where we played horrible.

Cronin: The Committee said they take into consideration tough losses and close games, and want to see teams compete in the out of conference. I think we did that.

Katz: The Big East allows your team to play its way in because of the tough remaining schedule (he listed the 5 teams), as opposed to Murray State where you couldn't make up ground.

Cronin: It's the BigEast. Every game is a dog fight. It's tough to tell who will win on any given night. We need wins, period. The season is running out and we need to get wins. It starts with Marquette.

* I tried my best to remember how the short conversation went, but this is about as accurate as I can be without listening to it again. It came on at approximatley 12:15 last night, so forgive me if I'm slightly off. I talked to a few UC fans and we all agreed that Mick said the right things. He didn't make any excuses, which was nice.

"We need to win games."


I say, better late than never.

Win verse Marquette and Depaul and go from there.

17-10 would be decent.

If we win another I feel we are squarely on the bubble.

18-12 is bubble IMO. Making the Big East Tournament very important.

MUST BEAT MARQUETTE AND DEPAUL

 

[Kingsley Court]

It's interesting that Mick said the thing about close losses. Every thing I had heard to date was that they count a loss as a loss and a win as a win, doesn't matter the score.

 

[Thegreatone]

It's interesting that Mick said the thing about close losses. Every thing I had heard to date was that they count a loss as a loss and a win as a win, doesn't matter the score.

I thought that was interesting as well. I hope they take it into consideration. Losing in double OT at Xavier is nothing ot be ashamed of. Same as some other games.

We need to beat Marquette and Depaul and see where everyone else is.

 

[BearcatAlum1]

It's interesting that Mick said the thing about close losses. Every thing I had heard to date was that they count a loss as a loss and a win as a win, doesn't matter the score.

The Committee is no longer looking at the last 10-12 games of the season. I had heard this mentioned in other circles that close losses do matter.

We'll see.

It is all irrelevant if we don't beat Marquette and DePaul.

 

[BearcatAlum1]

It's interesting that Mick said the thing about close losses. Every thing I had heard to date was that they count a loss as a loss and a win as a win, doesn't matter the score.

Also keep in mind that I am not quoting him word for word. I openly acknowledged that I could be wrong.

He could have also said we had some close losses.

Just saying that I cannot quote him b/c I do not remember the identical quotes.

Sorry ladies. My mind is going in my old age.

 

[TheLivingLegend]

I truly dont think 18 wins will cut it. UC road record is killing us right now. I think 19 anyway possible will get us in.

 

[Thegreatone]

I truly dont think 18 wins will cut it. UC road record is killing us right now. I think 19 anyway possible will get us in.

Agreed. Although I dont think we would be a "lock" with 19...

Good news is our SOS should be top 10 by then.
We need our RPI around 36-40

it is low 50's right now.

 

[ready2go]

Agreed. Although I dont think we would be a "lock" with 19...
Good news is our SOS should be top 10 by then.
We need our RPI around 36-40

it is low 50's right now.

Definitely. 05-06 we saw that. Went 19-12 and missed out on the NCAA. Even beat Marquette, Vandy, WV, UofL, UD, LSU, and Syracuse that year.

Before everyone gets up in arms again, my brother and I are posting under the same IP address....so settle!!

 

[Thegreatone]

Definitely. 05-06 we saw that. Went 19-12 and missed out on the NCAA. Even beat Marquette, Vandy, WV, UofL, UD, LSU, and Syracuse that year.

Before everyone gets up in arms again, my brother and I are posting under the same IP address....so settle!!

19-13 would be interesting. I would be verrry nervous if that was the case. Just get to 20 guys so we can feel confident.

 

[ralph1950]

UC is STILL listed in "the first 4 OUT" portion of bracketology.

Marquette is in the "last 4 in" portion.

The winnner will more than likely be in the tournament in the next edition. UC has a lot to do but glad to see we aren't too far away.

The winner of Sunday's game being in the next edition does not mean anything. These brackets are put together as if today is Selection Sunday, and it is not. There will be 4 regular season games and the Big East Tourney to play after Sunday. And the last time I looked, Joe Lunardi is not on the Tournament Selection Committee.

 

[TheFranchise]

The winner of Sunday's game being in the next edition does not mean anything. These brackets are put together as if today is Selection Sunday, and it is not. There will be 4 regular season games and the Big East Tourney to play after Sunday. And the last time I looked, Joe Lunardi is not on the Tournament Selection Committee.

It goes both ways, Lunardi's brackets give teams a sense of where they are and if there body of work is enough to get in the Tourny. Although you are correct that the next edition doesn't mean anything unless we keep winning, Lunardi as been about 99% correct throughout the years. I like Lunardi's bracket because it at least gives teams and fans knowledge of where their teams fit, but obviously one win against marquette will not soley put us in, we need to win several more games.

 

[Thegreatone]

It goes both ways, Lunardi's brackets give teams a sense of where they are and if there body of work is enough to get in the Tourny. Although you are correct that the next edition doesn't mean anything unless we keep winning, Lunardi as been about 99% correct throughout the years. I like Lunardi's bracket because it at least gives teams and fans knowledge of where their teams fit, but obviously one win against marquette will not soley put us in, we need to win several more games.

It is nice for the fans to use as a measuring stick. It is fun.

 

[ohioubearcat]

The winner of Sunday's game being in the next edition does not mean anything. These brackets are put together as if today is Selection Sunday, and it is not. There will be 4 regular season games and the Big East Tourney to play after Sunday. And the last time I looked, Joe Lunardi is not on the Tournament Selection Committee.

Last time I checked Lunardi has missed one team in the past 2 years. This is a guy I would pay attention to with regards of UC's chances. Dont be foolish look at the statistics.