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I mean that's decent we still lost, to USF... Who else was going to get those mins he better be doing something. Not to take anything away from him he did alright but we lost and as far as all that speed we've had it before with guards like Satterfield, and Downey hes not exciting me like they did but hopefully he can raise bar as of right now I'm not feeling his impact out there
I think your expectations are a little off for what every reason. These aren’t 5star guys. These are 4 year guys in their 5th college game. They aren’t going to be finished products right now. Even Tre Scott didn’t really do anything till his 3rd year. Justin Jackson, 4th year. Once again, they played 5 games
 
Saunders
Dejulius
Williams
Davenport
Eason

These 5 should be getting the majority of minutes.
Sprinkle in MAW and Harvey.

Ivanauskas-Vogt have issues on Defense but very capable Offensive players. Would not have both in at the same time. Because of the lack of defense between the 2 I would be hesitant to play either one more than 15 minutes a game.

Madsen twins look to be getting Redshirted.
 
Diarra just became a Father last month.
That could be a reason for the opt out.
Need to help take care of and raise a child.
Not saying this is the reason for the Opt out
but anybody who is a Dad would understand.
 
Saunders
Dejulius
Williams
Davenport
Eason

These 5 should be getting the majority of minutes.
Sprinkle in MAW and Harvey.

Ivanauskas-Vogt have issues on Defense but very capable Offensive players. Would not have both in at the same time. Because of the lack of defense between the 2 I would be hesitant to play either one more than 15 minutes a game.

Madsen twins look to be getting Redshirted.

Yeah, I’d assume the madsen are good to redshirt. I think it makes the most sense for everyone involved. This year is a mess anyway. They get another year to grow and it will split up the scholarships. I don’t see any downside to it.
 
Yeah, I’d assume the madsen are good to redshirt. I think it makes the most sense for everyone involved. This year is a mess anyway. They get another year to grow and it will split up the scholarships. I don’t see any downside to it.

This entire year doesn't count for eligibility... So not sure redshirting makes any sense.
 
I think your expectations are a little off for what every reason. These aren’t 5star guys. These are 4 year guys in their 5th college game. They aren’t going to be finished products right now. Even Tre Scott didn’t really do anything till his 3rd year. Justin Jackson, 4th year. Once again, they played 5 games

Well I'm not talking about any stars, just go get some talent we're not looking too hot right now. We need players this yr the madsens should be playing this yr are you kidding me. We cant afford to hold another scholarship a yr longer. Those guys you mentioned were in a rotation behind more quality players and I would gladly take them now at that point of thier career they would be getting plenty of clock on this team
 
Well I'm not talking about any stars, just go get some talent we're not looking too hot right now. We need players this yr the madsens should be playing this yr are you kidding me. We cant afford to hold another scholarship a yr longer. Those guys you mentioned were in a rotation behind more quality players and I would gladly take them now at that point of thier career they would be getting plenty of clock on this team
Justin Jackson and Tre Scott redshirted. Not sure if Justin did but whatever. They didn’t even play their first year. But you knew how good they were? You know they were better than these players? Ok
 
Well I'm not talking about any stars, just go get some talent we're not looking too hot right now. We need players this yr the madsens should be playing this yr are you kidding me. We cant afford to hold another scholarship a yr longer. Those guys you mentioned were in a rotation behind more quality players and I would gladly take them now at that point of thier career they would be getting plenty of clock on this team
Just to be clear. You are saying that after 5 games, and 0 games for the madsens, you can already tell everything about them? This is your argument? If this is correct, I can’t argue with that. That’s the dumbest thing I’ve ever heard
 
Just to be clear. You are saying that after 5 games, and 0 games for the madsens, you can already tell everything about them? This is your argument? If this is correct, I can’t argue with that. That’s the dumbest thing I’ve ever heard

I lurk here a lot and it's not worth even responding to this guy. Everything he says is borderline incoherent. Dude doesn't even make apples to oranges comparisons, it's apples to cows.
 
Diarra just became a Father last month.
That could be a reason for the opt out.
Need to help take care of and raise a child.
Not saying this is the reason for the Opt out
but anybody who is a Dad would understand.


#DadGang

I understand. I think it’s both him being a dad and seeing no reason in risking his daughters health traveling around the country for only 7 min a game.

All that prep, all that time away, all that hard work, all the potential exposure, all for 7 minutes a game.

It’s not even worth the risk.

I’d do the same.
 
Saunders
Dejulius
Williams
Davenport
Eason

These 5 should be getting the majority of minutes.
Sprinkle in MAW and Harvey.

Ivanauskas-Vogt have issues on Defense but very capable Offensive players. Would not have both in at the same time. Because of the lack of defense between the 2 I would be hesitant to play either one more than 15 minutes a game.

Madsen twins look to be getting Redshirted.

Mostly agree, but I don't see any way to keep Vogt off the floor, or at least it needs to be based on matchups. Brannen needs to find a way to work with him on D not to expose him too much. His size is needed. Unfortunately they are so thin he needs to be careful not to foul which makes his D even worse.

Rap just looks terrible. Can't imagine he is really that bad.
 
I lurk here a lot and it's not worth even responding to this guy. Everything he says is borderline incoherent. Dude doesn't even make apples to oranges comparisons, it's apples to cows.

Haha what excuse me dude what are you talking about
 
Just to be clear. You are saying that after 5 games, and 0 games for the madsens, you can already tell everything about them? This is your argument? If this is correct, I can’t argue with that. That’s the dumbest thing I’ve ever heard

After watching basketball for so long and knowing what talent and winning formula looks like I would say yea
 
After watching basketball for so long and knowing what talent and winning formula looks like I would say yea

Ok, so it is the dumbest thing I’ve ever heard. Thanks for the clarification.
Also, we’ve all played and watched basketball our whole life. We are one a basketball message board. Usually don’t find people that don’t know basketball on a college basketball message board. But you’re right, you can probably see things no one else can. Sometimes even before you see players play. That’s hard to do
 
Ok, so it is the dumbest thing I’ve ever heard. Thanks for the clarification.
Also, we’ve all played and watched basketball our whole life. We are one a basketball message board. Usually don’t find people that don’t know basketball on a college basketball message board. But you’re right, you can probably see things no one else can. Sometimes even before you see players play. That’s hard to do

Dude pls alright, your not taking any air out of my sails, I never spoke on what anyone else knew, what they've done or what they could see. This is my perspective and interpretation, you dont agree with it ok. You want to get in your feelings and act like everything is the dumbest thing you've ever heard or read ok. I don't see how or why I'm so wrong with giving someone or something the eye test, and coming up with an evaluation I guess recruiting or scouting is stupid too right? Sheesh.
 
Ok, so it is the dumbest thing I’ve ever heard. Thanks for the clarification.
Also, we’ve all played and watched basketball our whole life. We are one a basketball message board. Usually don’t find people that don’t know basketball on a college basketball message board. But you’re right, you can probably see things no one else can. Sometimes even before you see players play. That’s hard to do

And considering the eye test and circumstances of not getting on the floor this yr and the fact Brannen hasn't brought an impactful player in here besides Eason and Jaron Cumberlands cousin.. I'm going on a limb early and saying the Madsens or whatever their names are probably wont be that good, certainly won't be any help this yr. Same thing I did with Chris Vogt, McNeil, etc
 
Dude pls alright, your not taking any air out of my sails, I never spoke on what anyone else knew, what they've done or what they could see. This is my perspective and interpretation, you dont agree with it ok. You want to get in your feelings and act like everything is the dumbest thing you've ever heard or read ok. I don't see how or why I'm so wrong with giving someone or something the eye test, and coming up with an evaluation I guess recruiting or scouting is stupid too right? Sheesh.

No feeling hurt. It’s stupid because you haven’t seen them play at all. I don’t think that’s debatable. You don’t see the issue with calling people bust before they play a game? How many freshmen in our program came in and were awesome? We aren’t getting 5 star dudes. Tre Scott was a completely different play from game 5, to his senior year.
 
General reply here:
I agree with all- this team lacks talent in numbers
and certainly hasn’t exactly jelled.
However, maybe a modicum (my cousin Vinny)
of patience is in order given circumstances of
2020.
I remember a JC transfer or two in Higgs days
that were way less than stellar before Christmas
but improved dramatically after. Now I’m not
comparing teams or eras, just sayin.
I also thought Nickie V sucked after his 1st
Exhibition game cause all he did was shoot, many
of which were terrible shots. We know how that
turned out. Again, not comparing....
 
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