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Who will have the most Points+Rebounds+Assists+Steals+Blocks?

  • Gary Clark

    Votes: 15 71.4%

  • Jacob Evans III

    Votes: 3 14.3%

  • Kyle Washington

    Votes: 1 4.8%

  • Cane Broome

    Votes: 2 9.5%

  • Jarron Cumberland

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Total voters
    21
waterhead said:
Right...but we are also still #10 in Kenpom overall with that horrendous schedule. Because KP takes into account margin of victory. In general we are taking care of that end. If we beat this team by 30-40...we aren't moving...and we probably will beat them by that much.

Conference will improve our SOS. It will be little by little. Our non con SOS is not going to get any better.
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Only quibble with margin of victory is that starters don't play that much. With serious effort, our starters could have beat Arkansas Pine Bluff 100- 38
 
Jon Rycek said:
Just you I think. Nothing like supporting developing underclassmen
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Oh I love that they get to play. But it’s ugly basketball especially when we’re not pushing the pace.

I usually only miss a game or two a year, and I play basketball every thurs. ha I physically need this exercise more then I need to watch UC dominate Cleveland state in a stale enviorment. If this were at fifth third I’d probably go.
 
justinhub2003 said:
Oh I love that they get to play. But it’s ugly basketball especially when we’re not pushing the pace.

I usually only miss a game or two a year, and I play basketball every thurs. ha I physically need this exercise more then I need to watch UC dominate Cleveland state in a stale enviorment. If this were at fifth third I’d probably go.
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Not a bad game to miss. 2 games in 3 days, Christmas and conference play around the corner. The team will have to bring their own energy.
 
cincrulz11 said:
yep, cane came in, we pushed it from an 8 point lead to 28 point lead in 4 minutes. then we took the rest of the night off.
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Yah...I don't recall exactly who was all in during those 4 minutes but I think Cane was in there. I don't expect to keep up a ratio of 20 points per 4 minutes during the rest of the game (that is about 200 points for a game)...but I would expect we can keep up a pace at half of that against one of the worst teams...and we didn't...and we were closer to 1/4th of that for the rest of the game.

Relatively speaking we stunk for 3/4ths of the game. With a spurt of 20 points in 4 minutes you would expect to be well over 100 against that team. We turned it over, took some quick/bad shots, and we didn't put the ball in the hole. We didn't have an offensive philosophy and didn't play team ball. We just let the players run and do what they wanted. Coach was not standing on the sidelines preaching...he was sitting and letting it play out.

There are only some good things that can happen when coach is letting things go. I heard he was sick...but it really tells you what can happen when he's not out there being active in a game.
 
juckerrules said:
Only quibble with margin of victory is that starters don't play that much. With serious effort, our starters could have beat Arkansas Pine Bluff 100- 38
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Probably true. I am more dissapointed with how the bench played than anything. It looked like street ball for at least a half of the game.
 
cincrulz11 said:
yeah cane came in at 14:40 or so with a 10-2 lead. and left at 9:20 or so with a 32-4 lead.
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Yea I literally just watched this segment. Cane was making plays all over the court. But that run also had a lot of help from Tre Scott, nysier brooks, Trevor Moore and Keith Williams. They all contributed huge in that run. Which was great to see.

If Scott could learn to score he could be Gary Clark lite in that he fills up the stat sheet.

I thought brooks looked good too in the first half.

If Evans stays, we can still win a ton of games with Broome, Cumberland, Evans, Scott and brooks starting. Just need the wings to all get around 15 a game or more and get double digits from Keith off the bench.
 
justinhub2003 said:
Yea I literally just watched this segment. Cane was making plays all over the court. But that run also had a lot of help from Tre Scott, nysier brooks, Trevor Moore and Keith Williams. They all contributed huge in that run. Which was great to see.

If Scott could learn to score he could be Gary Clark lite in that he fills up the stat sheet.

I thought brooks looked good too in the first half.

If Evans stays, we can still win a ton of games with Broome, Cumberland, Evans, Scott and brooks starting. Just need the wings to all get around 15 a game or more and get double digits from Keith off the bench.
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He has had 7 fouls in his last 21 minutes in 2 games. That's almost 14 fouls per 40 minutes. No blocks, 0 steals, and 2 rebounds. If you are going to take minutes from Kyle these are the areas in which you can do it.
 
waterhead said:
He has had 7 fouls in his last 21 minutes in 2 games. That's almost 14 fouls per 40 minutes. No blocks, 0 steals, and 2 rebounds. If you are going to take minutes from Kyle these are the areas in which you can do it.
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Yea needs to work on just walling up.
 
waterhead said:
He has had 7 fouls in his last 21 minutes in 2 games. That's almost 14 fouls per 40 minutes. No blocks, 0 steals, and 2 rebounds. If you are going to take minutes from Kyle these are the areas in which you can do it.
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Coach isn't thrilled with the offensive rebounding from Brooks or Washington. I'll be interested to see if they're a little more aggressive tonight.
 
jacobkdoyle said:
Coach isn't thrilled with the offensive rebounding from Brooks or Washington. I'll be interested to see if they're a little more aggressive tonight.
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Brooks needs to start coming out like his career depends on it! He's not a scorer...the only thing he can help with right now is D, rebounds, blocks, etc. Kyle can score 10 more ppg...you can't just make up for that without doing the other things EXTREMELY well.

He needs to watch Gary and try to duplicate his effort. Eliel doesn't seem to have a problem with giving 110%. Eliel is more of a problem right now to Brooks than Kyle is...IMO! Brooks needs to watch out for Nsoseme.
 
waterhead said:
Brooks needs to start coming out like his career depends on it! He's not a scorer...the only thing he can help with right now is D, rebounds, blocks, etc. Kyle can score 10 more ppg...you can't just make up for that without doing the other things EXTREMELY well.

He needs to watch Gary and try to duplicate his effort. Eliel doesn't seem to have a problem with giving 110%. Eliel is more of a problem right now to Brooks than Kyle is...IMO! Brooks needs to watch out for Nsoseme.
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Yeah maybe going to Nsoseme before Brooks tonight could be a wake up call.
 
jacobkdoyle said:
Yeah maybe going to Nsoseme before Brooks tonight could be a wake up call.
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Nsoseme is the next Justin Jackson... plays with so much heart and gives it 110% all the time. I think he will start contributing at a high rate next year. Raw right now but you can't teach heart. I also don't think he gets intimidated which is a big deal IMO.
 
cincyfan21 said:
Nsoseme is the next Justin Jackson... plays with so much heart and gives it 110% all the time. I think he will start contributing at a high rate next year. Raw right now but you can't teach heart. I also don't think he gets intimidated which is a big deal IMO.
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If he gets those FTs figured out...look out! I think he could probably kick the ball in better from the line...lol.
 

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