westsidecat
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You think UC will hand him that much? UC can't afford that.
I would be HIGHLY surprised if UC would do something like that.
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You think UC will hand him that much? UC can't afford that.
I would be HIGHLY surprised if UC would do something like that.
JasonS
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These things all come down to donors. If donors want him out, they will put up the money. Look at Texas. If not, UC probably won't do a thing until his contract runs out or the buyout decreases.
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Thank God we didn't always have leadership in place at UC that thought this way. Had we I might not have ever gotten to enjoy those great years under Dantonio, Kelly and Jones.
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We aren't going against 4 and 5 star recruits...we are getting our doors blown off by fellow non-P5 programs. Not sure what you don't get about that.
UC can definitely afford to pay $1mil to make Tubbs go away. I don't think they even think twice if the B12 is still in play.
It is just a tax issue on what the athletic departments decide to spend in a given year. It is definitely in any AD departments benefit to show a deficit for tax purposes. That is why alot of the schools facilities are insane. You have to "launder"the money somehow...
I think the B12 situation will determine if we try to go after a big name coach.
Bearcatboy
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We don't ever get blown out when we are trying, we start turning the ball over and the team gives up, you can see it plain as day on sidelines.
Patrick Bateman
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Wait, the team poster says, "Fight to the finish." Very fitting this year
Bearcatboy
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I think it's more quitting on the coaches plan when things start to go wrong
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ND going down again today. Could BK be asked back??
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I still have a hard time buying there being anything to the talk about Kelly being fired. He is so much more competent than any of these other coaches on the hot seat. Even if he did leave ND, he would certainly get another good P5 offer.
I have heard from a ND booster that they don't like Kelly because of his tirades and attitude is embarrassing. I wouldn't be shocked if they fired him. I would take him back in a second....just like Louisville and Petrino.
Of course LOL. But why would he want to come back. He could easily get a better offer. He just coach in the national title game a few years ago.
MDW79
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Not that it would ever happen, but I personally would never want Brian Kelly back here. No way.
What he did to those kids that season was wrong. You can argue that that's nature of the business, and that's fine. But those kids played their hearts out for him, were a FG away from playing the National Title game, and he deserted them. Sitting at 11-0 and #3 in the country, in a city that could not have been any more appreciative or supportive, and you just pick up and leave? And take half your staff with you? You can't even let some of them stay to coach the bowl game? Not to mention that he informed the team night of the their awards banquet.
He abandoned those kids and this town. And that's not right, no matter what portion of the blame your assign to him. They way it was handled by him was terrible. I wish I could remember some of the quotes he had given leading up to the days and weeks of his departure. It wasn't a very graceful or tactful exit. I took the entire situation as gigantic middle finger to UC and the schools fans.
F#$@ Brian Kelly. I hope Notre Dame loses out and he ends up somewhere terrible.
What he did to those kids that season was wrong. You can argue that that's nature of the business, and that's fine. But those kids played their hearts out for him, were a FG away from playing the National Title game, and he deserted them. Sitting at 11-0 and #3 in the country, in a city that could not have been any more appreciative or supportive, and you just pick up and leave? And take half your staff with you? You can't even let some of them stay to coach the bowl game? Not to mention that he informed the team night of the their awards banquet.
He abandoned those kids and this town. And that's not right, no matter what portion of the blame your assign to him. They way it was handled by him was terrible. I wish I could remember some of the quotes he had given leading up to the days and weeks of his departure. It wasn't a very graceful or tactful exit. I took the entire situation as gigantic middle finger to UC and the schools fans.
F#$@ Brian Kelly. I hope Notre Dame loses out and he ends up somewhere terrible.
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Wow you reminded me of that week. How could I have forgotten. We were in total disarray, I do remember being surprised he wouldn't have the attachment to the team to see it thru. I have no prob with your stance, and will rethink mine.
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Young and hungry coach is the way to go. Look at Houston and Tom Hermann. I'm getting tired of Tubberville. This team is embarrassing.
Bearcat_NTS
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Petrino backstabbed Louisville and left for the Falcons. If they can welcome him back, we can too...
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I'll take Charlie Strong in a heartbeat.
I'd likely be fine with others as well, but I like the way Charlie runs a program. I think he's getting a raw deal at UT.
I'd be fine with an up-and-comer also.
I'm pretty much done with TT.
I'd likely be fine with others as well, but I like the way Charlie runs a program. I think he's getting a raw deal at UT.
I'd be fine with an up-and-comer also.
I'm pretty much done with TT.
MDW79
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I mean we could, sure. And I don't doubt that a number of fans would be thrilled with the move. But for me personally, I don't want to win that bad. Which is somewhat crazy for me to say because I think I'm pretty demanding of coaches. I value winning, and winning big, more than most fans. But I'd rather roll the dice with literally anyone else, and I mean anyone at all, than Brian Kelly. I'd rather do worse with another option than better with him. But to each their own though.
I just think some may forget just how ugly that all that was. One big difference in Petrino's departure was that it was announced after the bowl game. Jan 7th to be exact. He didn't ditch a 11-0, #3 ranked team, a school, and a town, right before the biggest game in the program's history.
It's not just that he left, it's how he left. His players were the last to found out. Rumors had been flying for weeks, and heated up days and days prior to his telling them. It had been reported as a done deal the morning of the night he decided to break the news to his kids. They were left in limbo.
He told just before their awards banquet. Classy move there. I remember reading that Mardy Gilyard just grabbed his MVP trophy and left. Guys were crying with reporters in their face, on what should have been a night to celebrate all of their hard work. That's just wrong.
I find almost impossible to believe he couldn't have coached that bowl game if he wanted to. If he really wanted to, and if Notre Dame really wanted him, that would been allowed to happen. But it didn't, despite it being the right thing to do. And not only did he immediately pack up and leave town he took half the staff with him. It's not uncommon for assistants to be allowed to stay back. That didn't happen either. We lost not only our head coach, but a number of other assistants. Here we are, in the biggest game of these kids lives, biggest game ever for this fanbase, and were at half staff. Wtf?
There's a lot of quotes on that from kids on that team about how they were mislead and lied to. Tony Pike, if you listen to 700, certainly sounds like a smart enough guy. I'm sure he knows the game is business. Yet I remember him really chastising Kelly for what he was telling the team throughout the ordeal. How much he loved the team, how much his family loves the city, blah, blah, blah. Yet he picked up immediately and gave them no notice and no help.
And the worst of it all, I kept thinking at some point, perhaps during his initial press conference at ND, that he would make a point to acknowledge those kids and this town. That maybe he would express sincere regret that he couldn't be a part of the rest of the season, that he greatly appreciated everybody, that he loved the city. Never happened. He gave on bs canned answer to Cincinnati and moved right on.
In the years since he's never gone out of his way to compliment this school or town. He's never applauded the improvements or thrown in support for us moving to a power conference. He's never said much of anything. We have gotten more praise from Urban Meyer than Brian Kelly. Think about that. The coach at O$U has more nice things to say about an in-state competitor than our old coach.
I'm sure he could do very well here if he came back. I would just view every win as tainted, and it would be hard to stomach to see him in red and black. We deserve so much better than being such a desperate destination that we're forced to bring back someone that treated us like dirt. It's the equivalent of going back to a woman that cheated on you a dozen of times just because you can't do any better. The word pathetic comes to mind.
If UC is desperate enough to take BK back, I think he needs to spend an afternoon on Fountain Square a la Dwight...
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