Anyone got the +- breakdown?
Ody +15
MAW +10
JD -1
Lakhin -2
Skillings -2
DDJ -3
Nolley -7
Reed -7
Hensley -18
https://gobearcats.com/documents/2022/12/10/2186737.PDF
I have a running tab going for the year. Ody was leading before the game. Hensley was actually 2nd and Skillings 3rd. VIK is the best of the starters at 4th. These other 3 guys offer something the starting lineup lacks. Mainly D and rebounding. JD is 5th somehow
I have a running tab going for the year. Ody was leading before the game. Hensley was actually 2nd and Skillings 3rd. VIK is the best of the starters at 4th. These other 3 guys offer something the starting lineup lacks. Mainly D and rebounding. JD is 5th somehow
The worst part of Miller's coaching is not benching Davenport when he does stupid shit. How many times does he need to jack up a three with zero support on the floor if he misses?
There is scoring and then there's offense. This team needs offense. Get the offense together or nothing is going to happen with these bad news bears.
I read that Kenyon Martin tore into them at halftime for not playing like a team and he's exactly right. And Miller was quoted that it was the only halftime in 12 years he's talked so little about Xs and Os. That's pretty sad when your team plays so out of sorts.
Sean Miller is talking to his team all season about how they don't play with enough toughness and passion, they don't fight enough.
I'm glad Davenport sat and Ody got in there to balance out the front court so Vik wasn't double teamed so easily.
And I don't understand why a guy like Reed has to freelance so much to try to score instead of running something to help him get to the basket. Same with Nolley. These dudes are the athletes that should be driving with an opening on picks, not trying to beat their man one on one.
I knew this season was going to be rough, but it's just painful. And this is after they came back to tie. But there was so much wasted effort early on that there's little doubt why they lost.
I think Wes has those plays in the book. The thing is he lets his guys do their own thing a lot and doesn't micromanage. In theory it's a good thing, it lets them take advantage of opportunities the playbook can't account for and to play fast. But the reality is we don't have the players for it. We don't have enough good decision makers.
I said it before, if you want to run that sort of scheme, great. I'm all for it. But bench the guys who don't run it right. You can't let Davenport chuck up bad shot after bad shot and keep giving him freedom. You can't let Nolley mentally check out from the game and keep giving him freedom. The announcer at one point singled Nolley out for not moving for an entire offensive possession. We are seeing why Nolley came to UC and not a bigger school, he's got the talent, but he's a selfish player.
You can't let those two be the leaders and examples to the other guys. Wes preaches one thing and then gives Davenport/Nolley 60 minutes combined per game to do the opposite. Sit them down and tell them you either get with the program or sit on the bench. I'd rather play the players who try to do the right thing, even if it means we take some losses while they are learning.
The worst part of Miller's coaching is not benching Davenport when he does stupid shit. How many times does he need to jack up a three with zero support on the floor if he misses?
There is scoring and then there's offense. This team needs offense. Get the offense together or nothing is going to happen with these bad news bears.
I read that Kenyon Martin tore into them at halftime for not playing like a team and he's exactly right. And Miller was quoted that it was the only halftime in 12 years he's talked so little about Xs and Os. That's pretty sad when your team plays so out of sorts.
Sean Miller is talking to his team all season about how they don't play with enough toughness and passion, they don't fight enough.
I'm glad Davenport sat and Ody got in there to balance out the front court so Vik wasn't double teamed so easily.
And I don't understand why a guy like Reed has to freelance so much to try to score instead of running something to help him get to the basket. Same with Nolley. These dudes are the athletes that should be driving with an opening on picks, not trying to beat their man one on one.
I knew this season was going to be rough, but it's just painful. And this is after they came back to tie. But there was so much wasted effort early on that there's little doubt why they lost.
I agree on continuing to reduce JD's minutes. I'm not sure on Nolley. Does he take some plays off? Yes. I am okay with him taking some poessessions off on offense rather than on D. He played 36 minutes. I think he is a willing passer on offense and his usage rate is lower than DDJ and Vik (as well as Skillings and Kalu). Give me 100% on D and you can take a few plays off on offense. If he stands out on the perimeter he is taking his man out of the play.
He's not exactly giving his all anywhere else either. His effort levels tend to mirror those of Davenport when it comes to defense and rebounding.
He's our third worst player in Adjusted Team Defense Efficiency on EvanMiya (in front of only Davenport and Kalu). His rebound percentage is only slightly better than Davenport's (8.1% to 8.0%), compare that to 8.7% for Newman last year when we regularly played two big men. Or 16.7% for Skillings and 15.6% for Reed. He's also second worst of our starters in EvanMiya +/- (in front of only DDJ).
He's one of only two starters who averages more TO's than assist (Lakhin being the other) and has the second highest TO% among our starters (MAW is higher, but also has a way higher assist%).
There are flashes of greatness from him. When the threes are falling and now and then off the drive. But I also see a lot of lack of effort. He doesn't care for rebounding, doesn't play that good of defense and when the ball isn't coming his way he checks out on offense. He seems like he wants to be "the guy" and is less concerned with doing whatever it takes for the team to win.
Nolley has good instincts though, which Davenport does not. We could make him "the guy" because we don't really have any other playmakers. MAW is a decent floor general and DDJ can score, but Nolley could be a creator like he was in Memphis. And he doesn't have to rebound a ton if he's playing the 3 alongside two bigs, especially if we have a good rebounding 2 like Skillings.
I get why people like Nolley, he's got the potential. But he's also in year 4, at some point you have to conclude that the potential isn't going to be reached. Can he play point forward? Davenport and Nolley both have the exact same number of assists (18) but Davenport has only 5 TO's to Nolley's 19. Though you could argue that JD has more TO's if you count his bad shot selection.
A point-forward with an assist-turnover ratio under 1 is not good.
Either way I don't think you can keep playing them both at the same time. To me, they are essentially the same player, JD takes more bad shots and Nolley gives the ball away more often. We need an athlete on the court to complement whomever of Nolley/Davenport is on the court. That means Ody, Skillings, Hensley or Reed starting and Davenport primarily playing as Nolley's backup (maybe a 25/15 minutes split).
Yeah, I agree that Nolley and Davenport shouldn't play much together. My point forward idea is based on his Memphis numbers and just watching his offensive insticts. We play him exclusively on the wing, so his assist numbers here don't mean much. I'm not counting on potential improvement, I'm looking to realize a skill he has already displayed.
I'm not following this. Not getting to the rim is exactly why I think he's better as a point forward than a wing. You expect your wings to get to the rim. You want your point man, whether it's a guard or a forward, to create offense. Our guards don't get to the rim as it is.He doesn't get to the rim much - he has only 12 attempts at the rim this season and most of them were against low quality competition (only two total in our 4 losses). I said when we got him, it's hard to be a point-forward when you aren't actually a threat to get to and score at the rim.