Bingo. Never seen a guy as athletic as Evans struggle to create space off the bounce as much as he does. Felt like he had a disproportionate number of jumpers off the dribble blocked for a player of his caliber.
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Robert
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I love Evans, but I get the frustration. Put Sean Kilpatrick's brain in Jacob Evans' body and you've got a future NBA All-Star. That said... he was incredibly efficient offensively and, at least in my opinion, was our best perimeter defender. I won't be shocked if Cumberland passes Evans as our leading scorer, but Evans will still be our best all-around player.
Bingo. Never seen a guy as athletic as Evans struggle to create space off the bounce as much as he does. Felt like he had a disproportionate number of jumpers off the dribble blocked for a player of his caliber.
I think he's got the ability now but just needs a little help to get there. He hesitates way too much. If he could just limit his dribbling to one or two moves and then go he would be a much improved player. He just needs to attack the lane after one or two moves. Nothing fancy. The offensive guy has the advantage. SK and Cumberland will dribble once or twice and just put the head down and go to the lane. With Evans jumping ability he's got all sorts of options once he gets in the lane. Take it to the rack, pull up J, kick out pass if it's not there. It really isn't rocket science but it looks like that sometimes when he is dribbling around the perimeter. He's got a little bit of Shaq Thomas in him. Coach needs to step up and give him some guidance IMO.
I hope Evans is at 15+. I hope Cumberland and Broome are over 13. And Clark and Washington between 10-13.
If Washington can find a way to stay on the court it will be hard to beat him in scoring. At .52 points per minute last year...if he's on the court for 30 minutes that equates to 15.5 ppg. Even if he can stay on the court for 27.5 mpg he can be over 14 ppg.
However, with more options on the perimeter this year, he may not see as many opportunities. Then again with a faster pace it may offset and he could see more easy alley oop or fast break type points.
It's hard to say who is going to lead us in scoring but I can't wait to see if we have a "money guy" show up this year. We need a clutch player or two to be an elite team. Guys who can not only create and get a shot off but make a good percentage of them when the clock is winding down. Or get fouled and knock the FT's down.
Fortunately I think we are adding two guys to the starting lineup that can perhaps both provide some clutch moments. We have probably only had one "clutch" guy in the Cronin era...SK. Caupain was forced into that role and he did admirably given it was a forced situation. He had only one move and that was a straight line bull rush to the rim. Hopefully we will have many different options this year than just that one play call.
Fortunately I think we are adding two guys to the starting lineup that can perhaps both provide some clutch moments. We have probably only had one "clutch" guy in the Cronin era...SK. Caupain was forced into that role and he did admirably given it was a forced situation. He had only one move and that was a straight line bull rush to the rim. Hopefully we will have many different options this year than just that one play call.
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I don't think we need a "clutch" guy. I think it will come down to match ups. Toward the end of the year, they started just giving the ball to the mismatch and it worked for the most part. I think we see a lot more of that with more options. Whatever it is, I ready for the seasonIt's hard to say who is going to lead us in scoring but I can't wait to see if we have a "money guy" show up this year. We need a clutch player or two to be an elite team. Guys who can not only create and get a shot off but make a good percentage of them when the clock is winding down. Or get fouled and knock the FT's down.
Fortunately I think we are adding two guys to the starting lineup that can perhaps both provide some clutch moments. We have probably only had one "clutch" guy in the Cronin era...SK. Caupain was forced into that role and he did admirably given it was a forced situation. He had only one move and that was a straight line bull rush to the rim. Hopefully we will have many different options this year than just that one play call.
I don't think we need a "clutch" guy. I think it will come down to match ups. Toward the end of the year, they started just giving the ball to the mismatch and it worked for the most part. I think we see a lot more of that with more options. Whatever it is, I ready for the season
I can agree having 5 guys on the court who can all score is going to present matchup problems for any defense and we should exploit that. I think this will help with Cronin's game planning more than anything but can certainly help in crucial situations too.
I still feel like it's hard to underestimate what it's like to have the ability to put the ball in one guy's hands (or two) and they can make something happen no matter the matchup. I think we will be adding two players to the starting lineup who can at the very least manufacture a decent shot in crunch time. If they can convert a good % of those...we are going to be very hard to beat.
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If Washington can find a way to stay on the court it will be hard to beat him in scoring. At .52 points per minute last year...if he's on the court for 30 minutes that equates to 15.5 ppg. Even if he can stay on the court for 27.5 mpg he can be over 14 ppg.
However, with more options on the perimeter this year, he may not see as many opportunities. Then again with a faster pace it may offset and he could see more easy alley oop or fast break type points.
I want to see Washington use his right hand this year. If he can just have an average off-hand, he could play in the NBA
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Bingo. Never seen a guy as athletic as Evans struggle to create space off the bounce as much as he does. Felt like he had a disproportionate number of jumpers off the dribble blocked for a player of his caliber.
I feel like he has a good pull-up jumper overall. Just some growing pains at times. He's been asked to do a lot in 2 years. At times I feel like he doesn't take enough jumpers honestly, and he tries too hard to get all the way to the hoop. His best bet for shots within 5 feet might be offensive rebounds, transition, and cutting without the ball. He needs to be one of the best shotmakers in America this year. Cold-blooded, hitting shots from everywhere. A completely unleashed Evans is terrifying to think about. He's gotta have that upperclassman mindset now. He has more legit experience than most players he'll go up against, and he's more talented. No reason he shouldn't score 17 a game and make a run at AAC POY.
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I love Evans, but I get the frustration. Put Sean Kilpatrick's brain in Jacob Evans' body and you've got a future NBA All-Star. That said... he was incredibly efficient offensively and, at least in my opinion, was our best perimeter defender. I won't be shocked if Cumberland passes Evans as our leading scorer, but Evans will still be our best all-around player.
I disagree with this and think it's unfair. SK was the age Evans is now by the time he played his first game. Evans knows the game. He's smart and is a very tough, instinctual competitor.
I disagree with this and think it's unfair. SK was the age Evans is now by the time he played his first game. Evans knows the game. He's smart and is a very tough, instinctual competitor.
I have to agree with you here. I think Jacobs Evans has a plenty high basketball IQ. He's just now coming into his role. Again SK was not surrounded by near the talent Evans was in their respective sophomore years. And evans was the leading scorer without being the primary ball handler. He does struggle to create his own shot sometimes, but o don't think it's too much of a concern. His definitely smart and super athletic, this'll be our last season with him.
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I disagree with this and think it's unfair. SK was the age Evans is now by the time he played his first game. Evans knows the game. He's smart and is a very tough, instinctual competitor.
It wasn't meant to say that Jacob Evans isn't a bright kid. It was more to say that he lacks killer instinct. But yes, it is important to remember that SK was 24 as a senior.
It wasn't meant to say that Jacob Evans isn't a bright kid. It was more to say that he lacks killer instinct. But yes, it is important to remember that SK was 24 as a senior.
I know his shot is much different than Cumberland but if he could get a little better at the step back J or pump fake it will open up his game tremendously. He's trying to use his dribble to get past his defender too much. Cumberland has great timing instincts and Evans could learn from watching him. Evans is a smart kid. There is no shame in picking up skills by watching and mimicking other players strong points.
Cumberland is a flat footed shooter which makes it easier on him to use the pump fake but Jacob can get better at it. I think it's up to the coach to notice and have them work on things like that. The players aren't always aware and the coach should be the person who can let them know of their deficiencies.
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Bingo. Never seen a guy as athletic as Evans struggle to create space off the bounce as much as he does. Felt like he had a disproportionate number of jumpers off the dribble blocked for a player of his caliber.
completely agree. I think defenders knew he was just going to dribble side to side and pull up. He never really attacked at a player or tried to force contact.
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Because I’m absolute college basketball junkie, I went and subscribed to Synergy. And on the iPad you can load every possession by every player in college basketball.
I wanted to watch every poisession from jarron this season. The clips started newest to oldest and it showed how much jarron tried to attack Lonzo Ball. I love that about him. He will find the best player and try to put it on them.
Jarron is going to be special. I can just see it by how different he played in the 2nd half
I wanted to watch every poisession from jarron this season. The clips started newest to oldest and it showed how much jarron tried to attack Lonzo Ball. I love that about him. He will find the best player and try to put it on them.
Jarron is going to be special. I can just see it by how different he played in the 2nd half
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The top 25 college basketball players with something to prove this season
Here are the under-the-radar players who will have breakout seasons in 2017-18
https://www.cbssports.com/college-b...-players-with-something-to-prove-this-season/
Jarron Cumberland, Cincinnati: Bulky man with a long-range game, the kind of player that Mick Cronin was long looking for. Cincinnati is no longer just a defensive force. Thanks to Cumberland (a 65-percent shooter from 2-point rang), the Bearcats are coming off their most efficient offensive year in the Cronin era.
Here are the under-the-radar players who will have breakout seasons in 2017-18
https://www.cbssports.com/college-b...-players-with-something-to-prove-this-season/
Jarron Cumberland, Cincinnati: Bulky man with a long-range game, the kind of player that Mick Cronin was long looking for. Cincinnati is no longer just a defensive force. Thanks to Cumberland (a 65-percent shooter from 2-point rang), the Bearcats are coming off their most efficient offensive year in the Cronin era.
The top 25 college basketball players with something to prove this season
Here are the under-the-radar players who will have breakout seasons in 2017-18
https://www.cbssports.com/college-b...-players-with-something-to-prove-this-season/
Jarron Cumberland, Cincinnati: Bulky man with a long-range game, the kind of player that Mick Cronin was long looking for. Cincinnati is no longer just a defensive force. Thanks to Cumberland (a 65-percent shooter from 2-point rang), the Bearcats are coming off their most efficient offensive year in the Cronin era.
That's 2 years in a row (Evans) where a Cats player has showed up on a national break-out list. Indicative of better talent in the program. Go cats!
That's 2 years in a row (Evans) where a Cats player has showed up on a national break-out list. Indicative of better talent in the program. Go cats!
Hopefully Cumberland has more of a breakout year then Evans did last year.
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Hopefully Cumberland has more of a breakout year then Evans did last year.
WHAT??????????
Are you saying Jacob Evans some how disappointed in his sophomore campaign???
How?
His already good offensive rating went from 112 to 124
3pt% from 33 to 42%
2pt% from 42 to 52%
His true shooting % was up 10 points
Jacob Evans has the epitome of a breakout season by any measure
WHAT??????????
Are you saying Jacob Evans some how disappointed in his sophomore campaign???
How?
His already good offensive rating went from 112 to 124
3pt% from 33 to 42%
2pt% from 42 to 52%
His true shooting % was up 10 points
Jacob Evans has the epitome of a breakout season by any measure
I'm not saying he disappointed, just when I think of a top 25 breakout season in all of college basketball I want more then 13.5ppg when playing a number of games against junky teams. I thought Evans played well at times but he was far from dominant a lot of times. I think he could be, just didn't have the mentality to be dominant last year.