Fifth Third Arena Renovation

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Wow this whole facility is going to beautiful, this is going to be an awesome state of the art areana, just wish they could somehow they could fast track construction because I hate being off campus but one year at US bank will be worth it.

After this is complete I never wanna hear the facility argument again because after completion ill put all our facilities up against anybodys. They may not be the biggest but they sure are some of the nicest and a beautiful campus on top of that

If we somehow got in the big 12 with these new facilities (fifth third, nippert, varsity village, everything around campus) we would be an extremely attractive spot for recruiting
 
Is this really going to be as good as they say - no facility in the country will be better... I have heard this before, later to find out otherwise. It just seems unlikely. Better than UNC, KY, Louisville? Etc.
 
ZCat said:
Is this really going to be as good as they say - no facility in the country will be better... I have heard this before, later to find out otherwise. It just seems unlikely. Better than UNC, KY, Louisville? Etc.
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I mean, what do you expect them to say? It will be modernized and comparable to other arena's? No. Take it with a grain of salt. I know they say it will be one of the nicest "on campus" arena's. So comparing it to UL, UK etc is not fair bc its technically not on campus.
 
These years of excuses about our arena holding us back is just bunk. I'd venture to say that our arena never stopped a single recruit from signing here. And, if we had an elite coach who could build this into an elite program again, it wouldn't stop fans from filling it up. Where it does impact us is when we have a mediocre coach, who can't recruit, who can't make us a fixture in the top 25, then and only then do people weigh the poor fan experience against watching a fringe program. If we had a top program, we'd fill that lousy arena up like we did in the 90s and have one of the best home court advantages in the nation like we did then.

Everyone was worried about Mick going to UNLV and he predictably swooped back in here at the last moment citing his love for this program and it being his dream job, and we've fallen right back in to the exact same pattern....no recruits signed in the spring. I'm sure we will announce a another significant 3-star recruit signing any day now. I'm having trouble sleeping every night in anticipation of our next big signing. There has to be another Cheikh Mbodj out there just waiting for an offer from Mick and a chance to suck blood from 8,000 pairs of eyeballs twice a week.

I do love the look of the new arena and welcome any improvements to the program, but when I do the math, if we paid $3 Million a year for a great coach, it would take 23 years to reach the $69 Million cash outlay that this renovation is going to cost and we'd have a much better chance of moving our program to elite status. Instead, we're going to dump $69 Million into this arena in one year, but keep the same mediocre coach. Recruits would rather play a brand of basketball that is exciting and will get them to the next level much more so than playing a brutally monotonous brand of basketball in pretty surroundings.
 
L-T said:
These years of excuses about our arena holding us back is just bunk. I'd venture to say that our arena never stopped a single recruit from signing here. And, if we had an elite coach who could build this into an elite program again, it wouldn't stop fans from filling it up. Where it does impact us is when we have a mediocre coach, who can't recruit, who can't make us a fixture in the top 25, then and only then do people weigh the poor fan experience against watching a fringe program. If we had a top program, we'd fill that lousy arena up like we did in the 90s and have one of the best home court advantages in the nation like we did then.

Everyone was worried about Mick going to UNLV and he predictably swooped back in here at the last moment citing his love for this program and it being his dream job, and we've fallen right back in to the exact same pattern....no recruits signed in the spring. I'm sure we will announce a another significant 3-star recruit signing any day now. I'm having trouble sleeping every night in anticipation of our next big signing. There has to be another Cheikh Mbodj out there just waiting for an offer from Mick and a chance to suck blood from 8,000 pairs of eyeballs twice a week.

I do love the look of the new arena and welcome any improvements to the program, but when I do the math, if we paid $3 Million a year for a great coach, it would take 23 years to reach the $69 Million cash outlay that this renovation is going to cost and we'd have a much better chance of moving our program to elite status. Instead, we're going to dump $69 Million into this arena in one year, but keep the same mediocre coach. Recruits would rather play a brand of basketball that is exciting and will get them to the next level much more so than playing a brutally monotonous brand of basketball in pretty surroundings.
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All this coming from a guy that claims to have nothing against Mick. Hilarious.

Honestly, I agree (to an extent) with some of what you've said, but it baffles me how you think this program is just light years behind where it was in the '90s. Either you are delusional as to what those '90s teams accomplished, or you're ignoring the positives we've achieved in the last 6 years. I'm guessing some of both.
 
#BearcatNation said:
All this coming from a guy that claims to have nothing against Mick. Hilarious.

Honestly, I agree (to an extent) with some of what you've said, but it baffles me how you think this program is just light years behind where it was in the '90s. Either you are delusional as to what those '90s teams accomplished, or you're ignoring the positives we've achieved in the last 6 years. I'm guessing some of both.
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When did I ever say I have nothing against him? I'm well known for having a lot against him, chief of which is poor recruiting and mediocre results.
 
L-T said:
When did I ever say I have nothing against him? I'm well known for having a lot against him, chief of which is poor recruiting and mediocre results.
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Not going to sit here and do a bunch of research, but I remember you often stating "I'm not sure why you all think I'm out to get him etc. etc."
 
#BearcatNation said:
Not going to sit here and do a bunch of research, but I remember you often stating "I'm not sure why you all think I'm out to get him etc. etc."
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It must have been a period where I spent too much time on this forum drinking this koolaid and less out in the real word talking with the fans. It had to be temporary insanity. If I ever say that again, slap me and bring me back to reality. But anyway, I'm looking forward to these nice pretty surroundings making Mick a much better coach. After all, look what the new football digs did to Tubby, and his recruiting.
 
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L-T said:
It must have been a period where I spent too much time on this forum drinking this koolaid and less out in the real word talking with the fans. It had to be temporary insanity. If I ever say that again, slap me and bring me back to reality. But anyway, I'm looking forward to these nice pretty surroundings making Mick a much better coach. After all, look what the new football digs did to Tubby, and his recruiting.
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We clearly live in different worlds. 80% of fans I talk to like and support Mick. The 20% that don't are stubborn, old, grumpy sweater-vests that think Huggs won 3 titles when he was here. Also, nearly all of the national outlets and analysts think UC would be insane to move on from Cronin.

But sure, we're all crazy.
 
#BearcatNation said:
We clearly live in different worlds. 80% of fans I talk to like and support Mick. The 20% that don't are stubborn, old, grumpy sweater-vests that think Huggs won 3 titles when he was here. Also, nearly all of the national outlets and analysts think UC would be insane to move on from Cronin.

But sure, we're all crazy.
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much like arguing with religious folks, you are fighting a battle that cannot be won.
 
L-T said:
It must have been a period where I spent too much time on this forum drinking this koolaid and less out in the real word talking with the fans. It had to be temporary insanity. If I ever say that again, slap me and bring me back to reality. But anyway, I'm looking forward to these nice pretty surroundings making Mick a much better coach. After all, look what the new football digs did to Tubby, and his recruiting.
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:D you gotta admit it is pretty entertaining hahaha. You do make me laugh sometimes L-T thank you!
 
#BearcatNation said:
We clearly live in different worlds. 80% of fans I talk to like and support Mick. The 20% that don't are stubborn, old, grumpy sweater-vests that think Huggs won 3 titles when he was here.
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I don't fit none of those. Any more great theory? Maybe a few are just plain fed up with poor results after 11 years of your great coach who has done nothing.

Maybe your 80% are just blind fools who don't understand what good basketball and a good basketball program are suppose to look like.
 
westsidecat said:
I don't fit none of those. Any more great theory? Maybe a few are just plain fed up with poor results after 11 years of your great coach who has done nothing.

Maybe your 80% are just blind fools who don't understand what good basketball and a good basketball program are suppose to look like.
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It is funny how people tell themselves that things are the same as back then...as if lottery picks, conference titles, conference tournament titles, and top 5 NCAA seeds are meaningless when it comes to having a great program.
 

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