That was a big rant over a fairly innocuous comment. I have been on this board since Mick was first hired and followed all the permutations. I own the fact that I was probably one of the most disgruntled Hugggins fans at the beginning of his tenure. Frankly I think I have modulated my tone fairly well. We shall see what see as time rolls on. I have been a fan since Gail Catlett and am put off by your condescension.Get over your obsession with Logan Johnson and bashing of Justin Jenifer. Jenifer plays well in Cronins system and when its Logans turn I think we all assume he will too. As it stands now Logan is an athletic spark to the defense and nothing else. He gets completely lost in our system on defense leaving his man (aka open shots), makes lazy, telegraphed passes and cant shoot. Playing against directional schools in November would not have changed this. Jenifer isnt an all-American and he had a bad day today but he plays hard and shoots well and doesnt turn the ball over. In two years as a starter he led the team to a 56-10 record. Also if Logan Johnson chooses to transfer like you naively keep saying then I say good riddance because he isn't the type of player we need or want on this team if he were to do that. Truth is there is no merit to your statements. Johnson was interviewed recently and it was pretty clear he was happy here and understood his role and how he had to wait and learn to play.
This board over the years has lost plenty of good, rational posters over this boards obsession from time to time to Mick bash and player bash. Whereas a fan board should be open to all opinions and honest critiques of players and coaches, there also is a lost notion that fans of a team dont want to come onto a safe space to discuss a team they love and have to read negative after negative reviews of the team they love so dear. Put me squarely in that circle. I love this team and have been on this board since its inception in 2010. But I dont come here to listen to people bash players and the coach and that is why so many people leave the site year after year. I understand being frustrated at losing. We got embarrassed on our own floor today. We probably wont make it out of the first weekend of the tourney yet again. There is a clear hole in this team that wont be corrected in the next two weeks, it just wont. Do we need to constantly harp on the negative or can we appreciate what is going right? Rant over
That was a big rant over a fairly innocuous comment. I have been on this board since Mick was first hired and followed all the permutations. I own the fact that I was probably one of the most disgruntled Hugggins fans at the beginning of his tenure. Frankly I think I have modulated my tone fairly well. We shall see what see as time rolls on. I have been a fan since Gail Catlett and am put off by your condescension.
Surprised nobody has mentioned Mick gave up on the game with 5:17 left and only down 11.
Can't believe a coach would ever do that, especially with the conference title on the line and on sr day. Then he basically admitted he did it in the postgame and nobody has any issue with that?
That sure as hell isn't the attitude we want coming from our coach and program.
I look back to my hot takes after OSU...and if you'd have said UC would be 25-6 with a shot at a co-title, I would have doubled down on that.
Look, we lost to an overall better team. We had a shot at least. We didn't play well (thats what ate at me), but 25-6 is nothing to scoff at. Houston played really well and we bit. We let them pull us away from our game. It's not like we couldn't play with them and beat them. One team has to dictate, unfortunately it wasn't us.
Season isn't over and there are some chances at more wins and who knows. Maybe an AAC championship. We don't know how the NCAA tourney will play out.
We all figured this would be an up/down year. Its been more up than down. We have exceeded my expectations so far.
All of these guys (Brooks/Scott/Williams) will be back after having been through the grind as contributors. JC will work on his game and fine tune it based off of what he has seen these last couple weeks.
I fully expect to be tough as nails next season...but this one isn't over yet.
This season ended up being a terrific surprise. The team hit a nice stride in the middle of the season. I think it showed our lack of talent compared to other top teams and lack of offensive options later in the season as they got a lot better and our team stayed about the same or regressed a bit.
That said it was a great year (regular season). Make the conference tourney final and it will be a successful conference tourney. Win 1 game in the NCAA and it will be a good tournament.
Surprised nobody has mentioned Mick gave up on the game with 5:17 left and only down 11.
Can't believe a coach would ever do that, especially with the conference title on the line and on sr day. Then he basically admitted he did it in the postgame and nobody has any issue with that?
That sure as hell isn't the attitude we want coming from our coach and program.
It was a long day for all of us, obviously no one is happy about the loss, but the sun rose this morning and the season is not over. I will not argue about Mick's march record because that speaks for itself. But if you honestly believe that Cincinnati can do so much better than Mick Cronin you are extremely ignorant. There aren't any coaches exactly lining up for this job. Everyone needs to pull there head out of the Huggins era ( which was filled with school sanctions and multiple let downs in march) because we are never going back to that. Essentially Mick is being penalized because he got this team to overachieve when everyone thought they would suck when they lost Gary and Jacob. But when we started to overachieve a lot of people irrationally adjusted their expectations. This team could very easily have 10 losses. Some of you need to be realistic about Cincinnati Basketball.
Again, my rant wasnt over your comment. It was a two fold comment. My rant was over the constant negativity of this board. Tbh, I dont care how long you've been a fan or anybody just as nobody cares how long I've been a fan. We're all fans and we come on this board to talk about our favorite team. We go out in the real world and hear our team being bashed, we come here to get away from that. So when we come here and have to read about our team being bashed then what's the point? That was the point of my rant. You can dislike my condescension all you want, I'm tired of every single thing you say talking about how Logan Johnson should be playing over Justin Jenifer and Mick Cronin is an idiot for not seeing it. You are 100 percent completely wrong about it. Now most of the time I let this stuff slide and dont comment or just disappear for a few days or whatever if the board gets so bad. But sometimes this shit really rubs me the wrong way and I comment. Your opinion of Logan/Jenifer/Mick does that, so I've called you out numerous times for your comments on it as have others. Last year the whole year we had to listen to the entire board bitch and moan about Cane not starting over Jenifer. It gets old. But its whatever. If this board wants to let you constantly post how you predict Logan Johnson will transfer because of the incompetency of Mick (who has a top 5 winning percentage in the past 5 years) then they can choose to entertain your thoughts. Me I'm going to call you out on it.
I don't believe Mick gave up, I think Cumberland did and that is why he got yanked. He was not playing D or hustling at this point, and I think it was time for Mick to set him straight and get him in line prior to this grind to come. I was happy that he did this, you have to keep the tone set for your team and even if your best player falls out of line, you have to reprimand.
Cpaw
It was a long day for all of us, obviously no one is happy about the loss, but the sun rose this morning and the season is not over. I will not argue about Mick's march record because that speaks for itself. But if you honestly believe that Cincinnati can do so much better than Mick Cronin you are extremely ignorant. There aren't any coaches exactly lining up for this job. Everyone needs to pull there head out of the Huggins era ( which was filled with school sanctions and multiple let downs in march) because we are never going back to that. Essentially Mick is being penalized because he got this team to overachieve when everyone thought they would suck when they lost Gary and Jacob. But when we started to overachieve a lot of people irrationally adjusted their expectations. This team could very easily have 10 losses. Some of you need to be realistic about Cincinnati Basketball.
Post game mick said he took him out cause we weren't winning, it had been a long season for CUmberland and he needed rest, and he was managing against injury.
Whether or not it was the right thing to do is up for debate. But Mick gave up on that game. Perhaps the right long term move (injury to Cumberland in a game that would have been a long shot would have been devastating) or perhaps it was the wrong move, sending that message to your team. Regardless, it's what he did.
Can we please stop with this nonsense. Because you do not want a rational discussion about it...I mean starting off by calling people ignorant is pretty stupid.
Realistic about Cincinnati basketball? I wonder what are your expectations. Mine are (not in order of importance) to 1) Recruit in the top 3 teams of the league every year 2) Send players to the NBA 3) Not have NCAA sanctions 4) Compete for conference title almost every year 5) Make the NCAA tournament every year 6) Make the sweet 16 every 4 years 7) Make the Final Four every 10-12 years. I'll admit this is a bit of a stretch goal but it has to be a goal.
That's what I want from my Cincinnati Bearcat basketball.
How exactly do I not want a rational discussion? This is an open forum correct? I am open to discuss anything. I openly stated that Mick's march record speaks for itself and there is no need to argue that? But where did I say I didn't want a "rational discussion" about anything else I said? As for the ignorant comment being "stupid", calling for Mick's job because he lost to a superior Houston team is extremely stupid. Wanting Mick fired for blowing the Nevada loss or his disappointment in march, fine. People are obviously entitled to there opinion. If we were on the bubble right now and got in as a 10 seed and won a game in march everyone would have been satisfied considering what we lost last year. The mindset for fans was entirely different before the season. As for your goals, we are hitting every goal except the last two. We have won like 85 games in the last 3 years and have been in contention for the conference championship, made the tournament 9 years in a row, sent a handful of guys to the NBA, no sanctions. So most of your goals you stated are being met (aside from sweet 16 every 4 years and final four every 10-12 years). So you are getting what you want for the most part out of Cincinnati Basketball based on what you said.
Yah, I heard that also. My thought was Mick was not going to out Cumberland to the media, but probably did so in the locker room. Some things are better not to let out. This is my opinion on the matter, could be completely wrong but just throwing it out there.
Cpaw
We are hitting a bunch of those goals with 2 big misses. What are your goals, now that we aren’t calling people ignorant let’s have a discussion.
Can we please stop with this nonsense. Because you do not want a rational discussion about it...I mean starting off by calling people ignorant is pretty stupid.
Realistic about Cincinnati basketball? I wonder what are your expectations. Mine are (not in order of importance) to 1) Recruit in the top 3 teams of the league every year 2) Send players to the NBA 3) Not have NCAA sanctions 4) Compete for conference title almost every year 5) Make the NCAA tournament every year 6) Make the sweet 16 every 4 years 7) Make the Final Four every 10-12 years. I'll admit this is a bit of a stretch goal but it has to be a goal.
That's what I want from my Cincinnati Bearcat basketball.