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What will be the outcome of the Houston game?

  • UC wins by 9+

    Votes: 9 25.0%
  • UC wins by 5-8

    Votes: 13 36.1%
  • UC wins by 1-4

    Votes: 9 25.0%
  • Houston wins

    Votes: 5 13.9%

  • Total voters
    36
The way we win is by constantly applying pressure until we break you. That can't only exist on the defensive side of the ball. And if it isn't how we approach offense, the defense will suffer as a result as well. It shouldn't be surprising that we didn't shoot well last night. We went against a set defense on every possession.
 
Two of your concerns here are bench time and pace. There is an obvious answer for both currently on the bench. I remember hearing coach say nobody could stay in front of Cane...not even our guys. But not even 10+ minutes without a basket was enough to give it an honest try. Smh

So he fouled a 3 point shooter. Fine. Take him out, scold him, send him back in.

Anything was better than playing 4 on 5 and whatever we were calling an offense.

Cane can beat a guy off the dribble but can't score over bigs once they collapse on him. Houston last night just sat inside the arc and grabbed and pushed everything. Cane would've been completely ineffective as everyone else was. And when a team is allowed to grab and hold every player on every possession you're not going to do anything. The reason we went ten minutes without a FG is we couldn't even get shots off. We went to the line nearly every possession. We shot 32 free throws, most had to be in the second half. The refs swallowed their whistles in the first half after we got our big lead and allowed Houston to suffocate us. Houston was fine in the second half to just hack us and let us shoot FT's. The ten minutes without a FG is misleading because we were still scoring. Even grabbed the lead during that stretch.

Bottom line this team is soft and any opponent allowed to play bully ball is going to give us fits if we can't hit open jump shots. We beat them at home because the refs weren't allowing them to play like that and it opened up our team to play more freely.
 
I have no ide why Williams’ name is even being brought up. What has he done at any point in the season to deserve any playing time.

We win with our depth. He's a sign that we're committed to what has won us games. Him not seeing the floor tells me we're tightening things up and holding on for dear life bc it's a rockfight.
 
I have no ide why Williams’ name is even being brought up. What has he done at any point in the season to deserve any playing time.

I kind of agree, but a couple people mentioned his name and questioned why he didn't get in. I like his upside and think he'll be a good player here but this year he just simply isn't ready yet. He's completely lost defensively. That UCF game, Gary was telling him every possession where to go and who to guard and he was kind of just rolling his eyes completely lost. Reminds me of Shaq his first year or two here in that aspect.
 
We win with our depth. He's a sign that we're committed to what has won us games. Him not seeing the floor tells me we're tightening things up and holding on for dear life bc it's a rockfight.

He hasn’t been a part of the rotation, no reason to do it now.


Plus you have Moore , you dont need another guy for that position.
 
There should never be a game where Keith Williams doesn't play.

He turns it over, doesn't assist, takes I'll advised shots, doesn't hustle like Moore, gets lost on D.

I think he's going to learn next year but this year I don't like it at all.
 
He hasn’t been a part of the rotation, no reason to do it now.


Plus you have Moore , you dont need another guy for that position.

Williams has looked better lately. And if it's 2 minutes in the first half and that's it, I'm fine with that. It's more about getting guys involved in the game so you can have flexibility approaching the 2nd half. Moore, Broome, and Williams didn't even break a sweat last night. That's not good for us. At least 2 of them need to. Maybe Williams gets a couple buckets in his stint in the 1st half and you can go back to him. Idk. We just aren't built to play 28 bench minutes. It has to be more. And you have to get guys some run in the 1st half to keep them available.
 
Anyone remember the specific play midway through the second half where Jenifer was dribbling the ball 25 feet away from the hoop and the announcer was dogging him saying his eyes are on the ball and not on his teammates downcourt? It was the perfect example of what Houston was doing. The defender was pushing him with one arm in the back and reaching in multiple times with his other arm. After about five seconds the refs finally blew the whistle. But realistically how could Jenifer had put his eyes off the ball when two hands are on him? You're not allowed putting hands on a ball handler, yet there he was with two hands on him for a long time before he got the whistle. Houston defenders didn't have their hands up on defense at all the entire game. It was straight old Big East ball. This team isn't tough enough to deal with that. I just hope we don't see anything remotely close to this type of defense come March being allowed. It's bush league bully ball.
 
I swear, UC fans after a big loss makes me want to quit the internet.


I'm more upset with the shitty hot takes than I am about losing to #23 in Kenpom Houston at home.

if Houston were in the Big East, they'd be in 4th place above Seton Hall, Providence and Butler and just one spot below Creighton. But because perception means so much to people, losing to houston was like losing to Mississippi valley state or something.

its insanity.

we can't have it both ways. We can't have a league that is improved and still run through like its the MEAC. If you want a respectable league then you want a league when you can lose on the road to multiple opponents.

We just punched Houston's ticket. And it sets up a great game for Temple to beat them and made get themselves in the field.

It really is ridiculous, lost to eh third team in our conference, 23rd in kenpom, undefeated at home. We have 3 losses this year, most people predicted 5+. How are we gonna lose 5 games if we aren't even allowed to lose 3. 16 game winning streak and people were finally starting to give up on all he negativity, kiss that goodbye. Back to a season in turmoil, smh.
 
It really is ridiculous, lost to eh third team in our conference, 23rd in kenpom, undefeated at home. We have 3 losses this year, most people predicted 5+. How are we gonna lose 5 games if we aren't even allowed to lose 3. 16 game winning streak and people were finally starting to give up on all he negativity, kiss that goodbye. Back to a season in turmoil, smh.

Based on what I have read (maybe 50% of this thread), this seems extreme.

Honest question, and I'm just spitballing so don't jump all over me:

Would you rather lose a couple games we shouldn't (say like at UConn or vs Tulsa or something), but win some of the biggest games (vs Florida and at Houston)?

Or win every game we should, and lose the biggest games?

And I'm not saying it has to be that either/or. Just curious what people would say and why.
 
Anyone remember the specific play midway through the second half where Jenifer was dribbling the ball 25 feet away from the hoop and the announcer was dogging him saying his eyes are on the ball and not on his teammates downcourt? It was the perfect example of what Houston was doing. The defender was pushing him with one arm in the back and reaching in multiple times with his other arm. After about five seconds the refs finally blew the whistle. But realistically how could Jenifer had put his eyes off the ball when two hands are on him? You're not allowed putting hands on a ball handler, yet there he was with two hands on him for a long time before he got the whistle. Houston defenders didn't have their hands up on defense at all the entire game. It was straight old Big East ball. This team isn't tough enough to deal with that. I just hope we don't see anything remotely close to this type of defense come March being allowed. It's bush league bully ball.

Kelvin Sampson ain't no dummy.
 
I don't know how you can say that. Coach went to it down the stretch in a tough road conference game when Moore had very little previous run in the game. If he's comfortable enough to still do it there, I don't get how that doesn't tell you something.

Full court pg ball pressure to slow teams tempo down, you can’t have Evans full court ball pressure if he’s going to play 38 mins, that’s why having jj and cane split time normally is what makes our pg play above average, fresh legs on full court ball pressure
 
Kelvin Sampson ain't no dummy.

Not at all. Honestly it's the defense we used to play in the old Big East. The rules were supposed to be changed to disallow this type of play though. My only point in bringing it up is to try and give an understanding for why our offense was so out of sorts last night and why no player coming in would've changed it. I think some people just think we wanted to not move the ball or do anything on offense. Gary and Evans both were trying to be aggressive and Washington always is. Houston played us perfectly to stifle us and were allowed to
 
Full court pg ball pressure to slow teams tempo down, you can’t have Evans full court ball pressure if he’s going to play 38 mins, that’s why having jj and cane split time normally is what makes our pg play above average, fresh legs on full court ball pressure

I completely agree with you.

But we do things differently in big games.
 
I completely agree with you.

But we do things differently in big games.

Agree I just don’t think it will be the norm from here on out, I don’t doubt the fact at all we see that line up again, I just don’t see it happening every game
 
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