Kevin Johnson

[JumpinJack5]

Fair enough. I mean I'm not a huge Guyn fan by any stretch, I just figured he'd still be the starter and Cronin would work in guys like KJ and Morman, and if they found more success, they'd get more minutes.

You are probably right that Mick will start Guyn over Caupain because he loves his veterans. I just don't see Guyn being a more effective shooting guard than KJ or Morman. Could he take a few minutes there or fill in if need be, yes, but beyond that, I think he is very ineffective there.

 

[cincrulz11]

You are probably right that Mick will start Guyn over Caupain because he loves his veterans. I just don't see Guyn being a more effective shooting guard than KJ or Morman. Could he take a few minutes there or fill in if need be, yes, but beyond that, I think he is very ineffective there.

I think Mick just doesn't like to play freshman a ton of minutes. Think back to when SK was a freshman. He only played 20 minutes a game when he was clearly a player that deserved more. Wright, Dixon, and Parker were all on the roster for the next season, but as a sophomore SK led the team with 34.5 minutes per game.


I think it's completely possible Mick hands the keys over to Caupain and lets him go. He won't be able to ignore the talent.

 

[Bearcat_NTS]

You are probably right that Mick will start Guyn over Caupain because he loves his veterans. I just don't see Guyn being a more effective shooting guard than KJ or Morman. Could he take a few minutes there or fill in if need be, yes, but beyond that, I think he is very ineffective there.

Mick has mentioned that Guyn is going to have to play with Caupain next year. When he can make quick decision to catch and shoot or drive the ball without having to be the primary ball handler, he will be much better. Eventually Johnson will take over as the main two guard but Guyn will play a vital role on the team.

The main reason Guyn is playing the point is because Kilpatrick is locked in to 35+ minutes at the two spot. He will play primarily off the ball next year, and with confidence he can be a solid 32-35% three point shooter.

 

[IDC]

The 4 guards will be interchangeable. Thomas and Sanders will man the 3 spot like this year. Any combo of the 5 bigs could also be in the game at the same time.

 

[Robert]

Here's what we know about next year:

Guyn, Caupain, Johnson, Thomas, Sanders, and Lawrence will all be in the rotation being returning players with game experience.

Clark is the most highly-touted of the incoming freshmen, redshirt freshmen, and JUCO transfers. So it's reasonable to believe he will be a part of the rotation.

Unless we find a transfer like Graham who can come in and contribute right away at the 2-guard, Morman will see some floor time as we will only have 4 guards on the roster. I won't completely dismiss the possibility of Shaq playing spot minutes at the 2, but that won't happen often unless he becomes more comfortable handling the ball in non-iso situations.

Minutes at the 5 are up for grabs, and it's probably going to come down to who plays defense the best. DeBerry has great size and experience, Moore has upside and the more versatile/athletic skill set from what I can tell, and Strickland is a complete wildcard. If you held a gun to my head and asked me to rate how likely each is to play the most minutes at center, I would rate both DeBerry and Moore around 40% and Strickland at 20%. All 3 will get a fair shake, but at least one of them will be the odd man out.

I really don't think Mick has a preference in how many guys he has in his rotation, except that he obviously prefers as much depth as possible (who doesn't?) so he can press and keep his guys fresh. He has gone with anywhere from 8-10 guys (sometimes even 11 deep early in the season) for his rotation, and as of right now, we have 11 guys who will compete for a spot in the rotation.

Knowing what I know about these players and what I know about Mick Cronin, here are my predictions:

PG: Caupain 20, Guyn 20
SG: Johnson 22, Morman 11, Caupain 5, Thomas 2
SF: Thomas 24, Sanders 16
PF: Lawrence 20, Clark 18, Sanders 2
C: DeBerry 16, Moore 12, Strickland 7, Lawrence 5

Totals:

Thomas: 26
Caupain: 25
Lawrence: 25
Johnson: 22
Guyn: 20
Clark: 18
Sanders: 18
DeBerry: 16
Moore: 12
Morman: 11
Strickland: 7

And there is precedence for this type of minutes distribution -- check out the 2010-11 stats.

 

[Not Guilty]

Also, just because I don't ever see him being a 40% shooter doesn't mean I think he's a bad player by any means. I think he steps into either the starting line-up or first guard of the bench next year and becomes a 13-15 ppg scorer his junior and senior years, playing excellent perimeter defense and gradually developing as a better playmaker/passer. I think you'll see him handle the ball more later in his career, similar to SK. I don't see him becoming as dominant of a scorer as SK, if only because I don't believe he will need to be with the talent we are now recruiting.

It's too early to really say, but I see a much better stroke than what Dixon had. Maybe in high school he was forced to do so much that a lot of his 3's were off the the dribble, which is much more difficult than spot up, which I think is what you'll mainly see him shoot at UC as an off ball guard.

Or maybe he won't shoot the 3 well at all. It's really early in his career. But I'm reasonably optimistic about his shooting given his good FT results and smooth stroke.

 

[bearcat jeff]

The first one I wrote is exactly what he said the lineup would be Caupain, Guyn, Thomas, Lawrence, Deberry so how is that wrong. He is just trying to start a fight and you think at no point and time next year that there will be a lineup in the game of Caupain, Sanders, Thomas, Lawrence, Deberry that just nuts.

No I don't. Sanders does not have the quickness or athleticism to play the 2.

 

[bearcat jeff]

Here's what we know about next year:

Guyn, Caupain, Johnson, Thomas, Sanders, and Lawrence will all be in the rotation being returning players with game experience.

Clark is the most highly-touted of the incoming freshmen, redshirt freshmen, and JUCO transfers. So it's reasonable to believe he will be a part of the rotation.

Unless we find a transfer like Graham who can come in and contribute right away at the 2-guard, Morman will see some floor time as we will only have 4 guards on the roster. I won't completely dismiss the possibility of Shaq playing spot minutes at the 2, but that won't happen often unless he becomes more comfortable handling the ball in non-iso situations.

Minutes at the 5 are up for grabs, and it's probably going to come down to who plays defense the best. DeBerry has great size and experience, Moore has upside and the more versatile/athletic skill set from what I can tell, and Strickland is a complete wildcard. If you held a gun to my head and asked me to rate how likely each is to play the most minutes at center, I would rate both DeBerry and Moore around 40% and Strickland at 20%. All 3 will get a fair shake, but at least one of them will be the odd man out.

I really don't think Mick has a preference in how many guys he has in his rotation, except that he obviously prefers as much depth as possible (who doesn't?) so he can press and keep his guys fresh. He has gone with anywhere from 8-10 guys (sometimes even 11 deep early in the season) for his rotation, and as of right now, we have 11 guys who will compete for a spot in the rotation.

Knowing what I know about these players and what I know about Mick Cronin, here are my predictions:

PG: Caupain 20, Guyn 20
SG: Johnson 22, Morman 11, Caupain 5, Thomas 2
SF: Thomas 24, Sanders 16
PF: Lawrence 20, Clark 18, Sanders 2
C: DeBerry 16, Moore 12, Strickland 7, Lawrence 5

Totals:

Thomas: 26
Caupain: 25
Lawrence: 25
Johnson: 22
Guyn: 20
Clark: 18
Sanders: 18
DeBerry: 16
Moore: 12
Morman: 11
Strickland: 7

And there is precedence for this type of minutes distribution -- check out the 2010-11 stats.

Mormon will play close to 20 minutes a game.

 

[bearcat jeff]

My starting lineup is

Caupain
To be signed juco/transfer
Thomas
Lawrence
Deberry

I almost went this way as well but unless that juco is Graham or there's a transfer instantly available your starting 2 guard is already on the roster.

 

[Bearcatboy]

I almost went this way as well but unless that juco is Graham or there's a transfer instantly available your starting 2 guard is already on the roster.

I think if the sg spot goes to someone on the roster it will be Morman but you can tell Mick isn't happy with what's on the roster at the 2 that's why he's searching so hard I think he turns up a juco or transfer.

 

[Patrick Bateman]

I think if the sg spot goes to someone on the roster it will be Morman but you can tell Mick isn't happy with what's on the roster at the 2 that's why he's searching so hard I think he turns up a juco or transfer.

On the radio show Monday, somebody asked about holding the scholarships. Mick said that they have enough beef coming in next year and you can never have enough shooting. Sounds like he is aiming hard at a SG.

 

[bearcat jeff]

I have said for a while now UC will not sign another big till the 2015 class unless an immediate impact transfer falls their way. I absolutely wouldn't say "Mick isn't happy with what's on the roster at the 2" but rather that Mick understands what a knock down shooter does for your offense.

It opens the floor and allows your athleticism to be maximized and can break open a game. Problem is outside of Graham there isn't that guy in the juco ranks. UC will look to transfers imo after the coaching changes take place. They won't bring a guy in simply to add to the roster. I also wouldn't count out a 3 that can shoot. Remember Sanders graduates after next season. I would look for 1 scholly to go to a guy that can score from the 1,2 or 3. The other will be held for 2015, again unless you can fill your shooter need and add an immediate impact guy.

 

[Bearcatboy]

I have said for a while now UC will not sign another big till the 2015 class unless an immediate impact transfer falls their way. I absolutely wouldn't say "Mick isn't happy with what's on the roster at the 2" but rather that Mick understands what a knock down shooter does for your offense.

It opens the floor and allows your athleticism to be maximized and can break open a game. Problem is outside of Graham there isn't that guy in the juco ranks. UC will look to transfers imo after the coaching changes take place. They won't bring a guy in simply to add to the roster. I also wouldn't count out a 3 that can shoot. Remember Sanders graduates after next season. I would look for 1 scholly to go to a guy that can score from the 1,2 or 3. The other will be held for 2015, again unless you can fill your shooter need and add an immediate impact guy.

Ill agree to that

 

[bearcatz1]

IMO KJ will not start next year.

You still don't think so?? Sure is seeing the floor alot at the end of the season... very good defensively and looks good with the ball. Keep laughing

 

[bearcatz1]

Guyn
KJ
Clark
Thomas
Lawrence

 

[bearcatz1]

Here's what we know about next year:

Guyn, Caupain, Johnson, Thomas, Sanders, and Lawrence will all be in the rotation being returning players with game experience.

Clark is the most highly-touted of the incoming freshmen, redshirt freshmen, and JUCO transfers. So it's reasonable to believe he will be a part of the rotation.

Unless we find a transfer like Graham who can come in and contribute right away at the 2-guard, Morman will see some floor time as we will only have 4 guards on the roster. I won't completely dismiss the possibility of Shaq playing spot minutes at the 2, but that won't happen often unless he becomes more comfortable handling the ball in non-iso situations.

Minutes at the 5 are up for grabs, and it's probably going to come down to who plays defense the best. DeBerry has great size and experience, Moore has upside and the more versatile/athletic skill set from what I can tell, and Strickland is a complete wildcard. If you held a gun to my head and asked me to rate how likely each is to play the most minutes at center, I would rate both DeBerry and Moore around 40% and Strickland at 20%. All 3 will get a fair shake, but at least one of them will be the odd man out.

I really don't think Mick has a preference in how many guys he has in his rotation, except that he obviously prefers as much depth as possible (who doesn't?) so he can press and keep his guys fresh. He has gone with anywhere from 8-10 guys (sometimes even 11 deep early in the season) for his rotation, and as of right now, we have 11 guys who will compete for a spot in the rotation.

Knowing what I know about these players and what I know about Mick Cronin, here are my predictions:

PG: Caupain 20, Guyn 20
SG: Johnson 22, Morman 11, Caupain 5, Thomas 2
SF: Thomas 24, Sanders 16
PF: Lawrence 20, Clark 18, Sanders 2
C: DeBerry 16, Moore 12, Strickland 7, Lawrence 5

Totals:

Thomas: 26
Caupain: 25
Lawrence: 25
Johnson: 22
Guyn: 20
Clark: 18
Sanders: 18
DeBerry: 16
Moore: 12
Morman: 11
Strickland: 7

And there is precedence for this type of minutes distribution -- check out the 2010-11 stats.

I don't see Clark at the of I think they go small with Thomas taking a rubbles role and 1 big man

 

[bearcatz1]

I don't see Clark at the of I think they go small with Thomas taking a rubbles role and 1 big man

Pf

 

[bearcatz1]

I like our incoming freshmen but they won't start. I think 3-5 will easily be thomas, lawrence, deberry. The point will be between Gelawn and troy, Gelawn is a senior next year I think he steps up, troy will also improve a lot and both will play well. 2 guard will be between whoever doesn't start at point and kj, I also like morman playing a lot of different positions coming off the bench. I like sanders coming off the bench, but he is a senior those starters better work especially lawrence or mick will start sanders. Joining him off the bench is clark, morman, and one of the three guards. Strickland could grab some bench minutes hopefully he's been working this year. But enough with that this team this year could do something special, also life post sk and jj is depressing. But man I'm pumped for this march run!

Lord help us if sanders is in the starting 5

 

[bearcatz1]

I don't see Clark at the of I think they go small with Thomas taking a rubbles role and 1 big man

very good evaluation

 

[bearcat jeff]

All you have to do is watch the rotation this season and how the offense flows with Caupain and Johnson in together. TC and KJ will start. Morman will play and GG will come off the bench. Again, this is barring a JUCO like Graham or immediate transfer.