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[jacobkdoyle]

I know exactly what I'm talking about. What you highlighted in my comment is 1,000% true. If not, what exactly would you attribute to the program being where it is? Tuberville has been awful but the talent is not there either. Recruits don't want to play at a school where the coach will leave for a bigger job, they want stability. Being a stepping stone school has hurt recruiting, period.

Tuberville was not a stepping-stone hire. He was a stability hire...as you mentioned we wanted in an earlier post. So how can you blame being a stepping-stone job for where we are now when it wasn't that kind of coach who destroyed the program?

 

[JackBauer151]

By the way, who exactly would you like to replace Tuberville with? I get the sense your similar to this kind of guy: "The Reds should trade Homer Bailey for Mike Trout". It has always been funny to me the light in which some UC football fans see this program. Even IF another guy like Herman comes along and is interested in an AAC school, we aren't a top 5 program in the conference nor do we have the monetary resources programs like Memphis and Houston have.

WE JUST DUMPED 87 MILLION DOLLARS INTO THE FOOTBALL PROGRAM! OUR HEAD COACH IS THE SECOND HIGHEST PAID COACH IN THE CONFERENCE. We dont have the money to compete with Alabama but we do have money to compete with Memphis and Houston. I want Jeff Brohm. I think he is a perfect fit. From the sound of it, you have no idea who the hell he is. You are completely wrong in every single point you have made on this topic. Dont get the Homer Bailey comment. I am the one living in reality. You are talking about Kerry Coombs. Seems to me you are the kind of guy that says "Chris Sabo should be the Reds next manager because he hustled when he played."

 

[jacobkdoyle]

Get a P5 coordinator or young HC who is trending ^. Simple as that. I'm done talking about this today.

 

[the_one_32]

Tuberville was not a stepping-stone hire. He was a stability hire...as you mentioned we wanted in an earlier post. So how can you blame being a stepping-stone job for where we are now when it wasn't that kind of coach who destroyed the program?

Jesus you all are over analyzing this. I'm not blaming coaches for leaving for bigger and better things and more money. I'm not even blaming the program for hiring those kinds of guys. What I'm saying is the reason this program has fallen so far is what I highlighted earlier about recruiting. True, it doesn't help that Tuberville would rather recruit kids the ACC, SEC and Big 12 programs pass over and doesn't bother to recruit locally. But when you walk into someone's home and try to recruit there son, they want to make sure they are sending there son to a damn good coach who will be there for 4 years.

 

[the_one_32]

WE JUST DUMPED 87 MILLION DOLLARS INTO THE FOOTBALL PROGRAM! OUR HEAD COACH IS THE SECOND HIGHEST PAID COACH IN THE CONFERENCE. We dont have the money to compete with Alabama but we do have money to compete with Memphis and Houston. I want Jeff Brohm. I think he is a perfect fit. From the sound of it, you have no idea who the hell he is. You are completely wrong in every single point you have made on this topic. Dont get the Homer Bailey comment. I am the one living in reality. You are talking about Kerry Coombs. Seems to me you are the kind of guy that says "Chris Sabo should be the Reds next manager because he hustled when he played."

You want a guy who is 8-3 and 6-1 in CUSA to make a lateral move? Because that's what it would be for him. Also never said I wanted Coombs as the HC, my post was simply he expressed interest.

 

[Bearcat_NTS]

You want a guy who is 8-3 and 6-1 in CUSA to make a lateral move? Because that's what it would be for him. Also never said I wanted Coombs as the HC, my post was simply he expressed interest.

Willie Taggart left WKU for South Florida just a few years ago (USF was already in the American). Cincinnati paid Tubberclown $2.2 million a year, Brohm makes 800k and the highest paid C-USA coach makes 900k. Stick to recruiting predictions...wait you suck at those too.

 

[the_one_32]

Willie Taggart left WKU for South Florida just a few years ago (USF was already in the American). Cincinnati paid Tubberclown $2.2 million a year, Brohm makes 800k and the highest paid C-USA coach makes 900k. Stick to recruiting predictions...wait you suck at those too.

Lol this guy. I remember when I had my first beer. Trolls are adorable

 

[JackBauer151]

You want a guy who is 8-3 and 6-1 in CUSA to make a lateral move? Because that's what it would be for him. Also never said I wanted Coombs as the HC, my post was simply he expressed interest.

Ok this will be my last post on the issue. It would not be a lateral move. We have better resources, we would pay him more money, we have a better TV contract, we have sent our head coaches to ND, UT, and MSU, is in a big city that will support a winner, he can recruit better players, and has an actual shot at a new years bowl. There are about 20 other reasons it is not a lateral move but Im not wasting my energy on this further. Young up and coming coach is exactly what UC needs, whether it is a P5 coordinator or a young head coach at a smaller school trending up. UC is a tremendous opportunity for any of those looking to climb the ladder. If you cant understand that then us having the argument is pointless anyways.

As for Coombs. My initial joke about me expressing interest in Apple when Steve Jobs dies was meant to make a point. A lot of people will express interest in the job. ITS A DAMN good job. One of the best outside the P5. You can win here and pad your resume. The point I was making is that Coombs has shown one area of expertise at this level. Recruiting. He did is for Brian Kelly and Urban Meyer. He never has done it for himself as a head coach and his coaching has been suspect at best. He will at the very least be in the 3rd tier of candidates. I guarantee UC will not have to dig that deep to find a quality coach that fits the attributes I talked about above. Brohm, Satterfield, Fleck, Brown, and Candle all will get calls before Coombs. Another Buckeye will get a call before Coombs.... Luke Fickell. Ed Orgeron and Charlie Strong might be available (Not my choices) but all would receive a call before Kerry. The point is if we end up with Kerry as the head coach we were rebuffed by more than a dozen coaches and we are in BIG BIG trouble. On this issue i guess i will agree to disagree. Have a good one and BEAT RHODE ISLAND!!!!

 

[XgradforUC]

Not that any of this conversation on the last 3 pages has anything to do with the tittle of this thread, but......

I think that just about every recruit (and their parents) understand that coach's are subject to changing sometime during the career of ANY player at ANY school. This is one reason that recruits visit the SCHOOLS and not just meet with the coaches. Only at the very highest level of schools, where the coaches are an institution unto themselves, do recruits on a regular basis go to a school expecting to play for a certain coach their whole career. Even there, most are wise enough to know that their relationship with their POSITION coach is probably going to be at least as important as their relationship with their head coach, if not even more important.....and those coaches change all the time. In addition most are wise enough, and have seen enough of the world, to realize that the NFL is also a possible future option for people like Saben, Meyers, and Harbaugh.

But we aren't really talking about players choosing between UC and those schools anyway, are we? Not if we are realistic. When it comes to recruiting for football, we are really talking about recruits choosing between UC and 2nd level P5 schools at best, and most commonly choosing between UC and other non-P5 schools. I doubt very seriously if any of the recruits at these schools don't understand that the head coach is likely NOT going to be at their school for the next 4-5 years. If the coach does well they will most likely move up and if they do badly they will most likely be fired....that's just the way it is, and all the coaches and players understand this. Fans should too. If they want to be honest with themselves, that is.

The point I'm trying to make is that "stability" in the coaching staff is not something that happens anywhere except a few very select schools and probably is not something that 99% of the recruits countrywide either expect or need.

 

[Budman]

I can not believe that Gunner did not get the start on senior night. I hope when the season is completed Gunner calls Tommy out and shares some details of the treatment he received during the course of this season. I am truly embarrassed for Tommy and his behavior!

 

[UCBearcats]

You want a guy who is 8-3 and 6-1 in CUSA to make a lateral move? Because that's what it would be for him. Also never said I wanted Coombs as the HC, my post was simply he expressed interest.

You should be ashamed of yourself for having such a low opinion of a team you claim to be a fan of.