Mid Season Synergy Grades

[justinhub2003]

#'s only tell you so much. Hence the reason it showed Quadri being good and Diarri being really good. Quadri was not good at anything.

I don’t get what your saying ?

So your saying Chris Vogt is a good defender ?

I mean are you defending his defense or just arguing generalities in regards to statistics ?

I think you’ll be hard pressed to find many people who think he is a good defender.

 

[TheLongHaul]

I don’t get what your saying ?

So your saying Chris Vogt is a good defender ?

I mean are you defending his defense or just arguing generalities in regards to statistics ?

I think you’ll be hard pressed to find many people who think he is a good defender.

both - I'm saying he is a pretty good interior defender. He is not a good perimeter defender. The other point is you can't go strictly on numbers.

 

[cincyguy13]

Let’s set the record straight on Vogt so we don’t have to keep having this discussion. He’s 7 foot tall and can’t move well, if he could move well he wouldn’t be here. If you can’t move, going to be really hard to try to guard a perimeter player. Having said that being 7 foot makes it hard to score over you by just your size. No one has ever or will ever say he is a great defender.

 

[waterhead]

Since this is UC basketball, lets start with Defense first:

Jaevin Cumberland: Good (.79 ppp) 57%
Mika Adams-Woods: Below Average (.98 ppp) 16%


Offense:

Jaevin Cumberland: Very Good (.95 ppp) 72%
Mika Adams-Woods: Excellent (1.03 ppp) 88%

Jarron has been playing a lot of PG lately but now that it is official....who you playing on the wing more? Mika went a 7 game stretch when he was playing PG scoring around 10ppg. Since Jarron started taking over PG the last 6 he's averaging around 2-3ppg. Jaevin is at home as SG. Mika has kind of disappeared on offense.

 

[justinhub2003]

Jarron has been playing a lot of PG lately but now that it is official....who you playing on the wing more? Mika went a 7 game stretch when he was playing PG scoring around 10ppg. Since Jarron started taking over PG the last 6 he's averaging around 2-3ppg. Jaevin is at home as SG. Mika has kind of disappeared on offense.

Hopefully zach Harvey

 

[waterhead]

Hopefully zach Harvey

He can spell Williams if he keeps up good play

 

[cincrulz11]

Jarron has been playing a lot of PG lately but now that it is official....who you playing on the wing more? Mika went a 7 game stretch when he was playing PG scoring around 10ppg. Since Jarron started taking over PG the last 6 he's averaging around 2-3ppg. Jaevin is at home as SG. Mika has kind of disappeared on offense.

Cumberland
Cumberland
Williams
Scott
Vogt


probably not great to preventing guard penetration on defense, but we aren't really that great at it anyway.

 

[waterhead]

Cumberland
Cumberland
Williams
Scott
Vogt


probably not great to preventing guard penetration on defense, but we aren't really that great at it anyway.

I would like to see that happen as well for Jaevin's sake. If he is getting beat off the dribble we can always bring in MAW. It might do Jaevin some good to see a start.

 

[waterhead]

Cumberland
Cumberland
Williams
Scott
Vogt


probably not great to preventing guard penetration on defense, but we aren't really that great at it anyway.

Last 7 games with Jarron at point much of the games...MAW results

2.5 pts on 19 minutes per game

Jaevin

9 pts on 21 minutes

I know there is more to it than that...but just like Vogt...his offense is enough to keep him on the floor. I think it's time Jaevin gets a shot at starting and adjust his minutes up to 25 or so and MAW down to 15 or so.

 

[cincrulz11]

Last 7 games with Jarron at point much of the games...MAW results

2.5 pts on 19 minutes per game

Jaevin

9 pts on 21 minutes

I know there is more to it than that...but just like Vogt...his offense is enough to keep him on the floor. I think it's time Jaevin gets a shot at starting and adjust his minutes up to 25 or so and MAW down to 15 or so.

MAW kinda hit a freshman wall, which happens. He played well for us when we needed him and now the other guys gotta pick him up now that he's struggling.

 

[cincyalum2014]

Last 7 games with Jarron at point much of the games...MAW results

2.5 pts on 19 minutes per game

Jaevin

9 pts on 21 minutes

I know there is more to it than that...but just like Vogt...his offense is enough to keep him on the floor. I think it's time Jaevin gets a shot at starting and adjust his minutes up to 25 or so and MAW down to 15 or so.

I agree, with Jarron at the point that pushes MAW to the wing and he has struggled, my biggest thing with MAW is him fouling 40ft from the basket, if you get beat and you hack the guy so he doesn't get an easy lay up, fine... But if you are hand checking a guy when you don't ever strip the ball, that needs to stop. I think Jaevin should slide into that spot with MAW and Dou being the first guys off the bench.... On the flip side to that when Jaevin is cold he is useless, he turns the ball over and is less than ideal at defending.
Unfortunately we are just not a very deep team.

 

[cincrulz11]

I agree, with Jarron at the point that pushes MAW to the wing and he has struggled, my biggest thing with MAW is him fouling 40ft from the basket, if you get beat and you hack the guy so he doesn't get an easy lay up, fine... But if you are hand checking a guy when you don't ever strip the ball, that needs to stop. I think Jaevin should slide into that spot with MAW and Dou being the first guys off the bench.... On the flip side to that when Jaevin is cold he is useless, he turns the ball over and is less than ideal at defending.
Unfortunately we are just not a very deep team.

Maw and harvey both use their hands far too much on defense. They pick up a lot of fouls that way.


Jaevin just has to play more. He helps stretch the defense. He also has the lowest turnover rate on the team.

 

[waterhead]

I agree, with Jarron at the point that pushes MAW to the wing and he has struggled, my biggest thing with MAW is him fouling 40ft from the basket, if you get beat and you hack the guy so he doesn't get an easy lay up, fine... But if you are hand checking a guy when you don't ever strip the ball, that needs to stop. I think Jaevin should slide into that spot with MAW and Dou being the first guys off the bench.... On the flip side to that when Jaevin is cold he is useless, he turns the ball over and is less than ideal at defending.
Unfortunately we are just not a very deep team.

I agree with much of what you said. The turnover thing has already been addressed by someone else. But my other input would be you don't know when the hot stretch is coming...he could miss the first three 3's and then hit 3 in a row. You have to let him shoot. Of course if he is cold he's not helping much but that can be said for a lot of players. MAW picking up fouls and not scoring isn't helping much either. The defense has to account for where Jaevin is on the floor.

 

[waterhead]

MAW kinda hit a freshman wall, which happens. He played well for us when we needed him and now the other guys gotta pick him up now that he's struggling.

Yah. He is still very useful but just not seeing the starter minutes right now. We need extra ball handlers at times and he can still shoot pretty well when set. He's not creating some of his own 3's like Jaevin and I don't really want him to. 15 mpg is more than enough to keep him engaged. He can get 20 depending on foul trouble with other wings.