No,I do not know. He lost to East Carolina last year and lost to Hofstra a week ago
In micks last 4 seasons combined at UC.... we lost 1 game to a team ranked 100 or worse. Which was a road game at ecu, where Shawn Williams shot best game ever.
Mick won 3 out 4 of his early season tourney. The only loss coming to Rhode Island who was a top 35 team.
Mick lost to ECU... in what was supposed to be a complete rebuilding year. And yet took us back to the tourney.
Add in that Brannen inherited an entirely different situation then Cronin. Cronin inherited a bunch of losing players who lost their top 3 scorers. Brannen inherited a team who returned its top 3 scorers and was picked 3rd in his league, UCLA was picked 9th or something.
Cronin lost to East Carolina last year with the best player in the AAC on his roster, stop making excuses for him
2 losses in first 5 games - check
loss to horrible team - check
fight with xavier - wait and see
i say we go all out 2013 and run it to a sweet 16.
Ok... He lost to one sub top 100 team in a 4 year span.
Like Jarron Cumberland has been apart of 2 Sub 100 losses in his career, One is from Brannen and one is from Cronin.. thing is Cronin was his coach for 3 years, Brannen has been his coach for 5 games.
In the last 4 years Mick was: 67-1 Vs Teams ranked top 100 or worse
Thats good for 99% in his last 4 years.
Do you think after what we just saw in the illinois state game, where Jarron had to save his ass and the Bowling Green game, that Brannen is going to go with a 99% winning percentage against teams in the top 100 and worse?
For example: UCLA last season ranked literally almost identical to bowling green, and we kicked their ass. NKU was ranked 96, which is better than bowling green, and we kicked their ass. We beat UCONN 2x and they ranked identical to BGU.
just last season alone Mick had 14 top 100 wins. Brannen has 2 in his 4 year career.
Yes, the 99% winning percentage says Mick wins this game if he is coaching.
I mean seriously though.. Did UC really just hire a coach with 2 top 100 wins in his career? And we wonder why we look like we have no idea what were doing.. Its because we don't..
His 2 top 100 wins are against Oakland and ETSU.
Our offense is better than 4 teams in the league.
Ecu, Tulsa, temple & south Florida
Our defense is also 8th in the league.
What about his system won’t work. Passing and making shots? It’s not like we are playing in the acc and playing duke level teams every game. He will obviously need to get better players. But we knew that going in. I’m talking about the future. Not much he can do about the players on this years roster.My concern isn't that Brannen can't coach, it's that Brannen wants to coach a certain style that isn't going to work at a high-major level.
Vogt said in a post-game interview a couple weeks ago that everything is almost exactly the same as it was at NKU. Same system, same coaching style, same practices. So far, that isn't working.
With Cronin we won with size, athleticism and intensity on defense and the boards. Brannen made it clear that athletic high-energy bigs weren't a major concern of his early on (our athletic bigs - Nsoseme, Hardnett, Diarra, Brooks - either transferred, were forced out or are on the bench).
It's hard to see how we are going to win a lot of games going forward. Vogt was a huge liability on defense in the second half and was taken out of the game offensively because BGSU could match his size. This isn't the Horizon league, in the AAC almost every team can match Vogt's size. Vogt also provides almost no shot blocking presence. Sorolla is a worse version of Vogt.
So we aren't going to win against good teams with our size and athleticism and we don't have the shooters to match up with most teams. Our PG can't shoot, can't hit FTs and (along with most of the team) commits way too many TO's. The offense isn't much (if any) better then last years offense, but the defense and TO's are worse.
It's hard to see us winning a lot of games this year. The Cumberland's can carry the load at times, but with them both having injuries I don't know how hard we can ride them. Besides those two, there are no major threats on offense. Scott seems to have regressed, Williams hasn't improved much, Vogt only has success offensively against guys he has 25+ pounds and 4-5 inches on.
If it was me I cut Vogt and McNeal's minutes, give Diarra 20+ minutes and give Moore and Davenport more minutes. MAW and Harvey can sit until they learn to defend, rebound and not turn over the ball. McNeal can be a spark plug guy off the bench - similar to Broome last year, they have similar games, though Broome was a better shooter.
It wouldn't lead to pretty wins, but it would have a better chance of winning. I like results, I don't care how you get them.
I think we lose the fight with Xavier this time though LOL
Outside of Jarron, Im not sure who we have in a cage fight to match up against Tyrique jones, Paul Scruggs & Naji Marshall.
I still think Brannen was the best hire, but I have to agree he's not looking good at this point. Even in our wins we haven't played well. And the coaching debacle at the end of the game last night did not win him any fans.
I do wonder how long Brannen will get if we don't make the NCAA tournament this year. I think he should get 3 years, but with a miss of the NCAA tournament this year and next, that might be enough to get him fired in two.
I think we lose the fight with Xavier this time though LOL
Outside of Jarron, Im not sure who we have in a cage fight to match up against Tyrique jones, Paul Scruggs & Naji Marshall.
Dude you know Cronin would have won this game. Especially with Jarron Keith and trevon.
He would have won simply because he would have never let them drop 94 points on us.
You care about the tourney more than me. I didn’t find much joy in losing in the first weekend every year, just to say we went. You seem to really enjoy that. Which is fine but if we miss the tournament every once in a while I’m not going to freak out. Xavier missed it last year and they are ok.I just have a feeling that in 3 years time, we will all be wishing for mediocre Mick back because we’ve missed the tourney 3 straight years and will be spending all of our televised games on ESPN+
I hope to god that isn’t the case.
I just looked at the raw offensive and defensive numbers. They are bad bad bad.
Like mid major bad.
Our offense is ranked #210
Our defense is 94
I don't really want to hop on the emotional roller coaster here, but why do you keep saying this? Bowling Green is 97 in Kenpom. We're five games into the season. Who knows where they will end up. East Carolina was 264 last year. Lumping those two teams together right now is stupid.Jarron Cumberland has been apart of 2 Sub 100 losses in his career, One is from Brannen and one is from Cronin.
Better than I thought to be honest
I don't really want to hop on the emotional roller coaster here, but why do you keep saying this? Bowling Green is 97 in Kenpom. We're five games into the season. Who knows where they will end up. East Carolina was 264 last year. Lumping those two teams together right now is stupid.
The only thing that really matters is quadrants. I really doubt Bowling Green will be a Q4 loss.
I'm pretty disappointed that we didn't inbound to Jaevin at the end, but let's try to have a little bit of patience. We're not running a "mid-major" offense. Plenty of high-major and NBA teams run the same thing. We don't have to block shots to have an effective defense. The complaint against Cronin was always that he had a low ceiling despite his high floor. We have no idea what kind of ceiling to expect from Brannen, but we're sitting here arguing about how the floor has dropped after five games. Let's see what happens.
I don't really want to hop on the emotional roller coaster here, but why do you keep saying this? Bowling Green is 97 in Kenpom. We're five games into the season. Who knows where they will end up. East Carolina was 264 last year. Lumping those two teams together right now is stupid.
The only thing that really matters is quadrants. I really doubt Bowling Green will be a Q4 loss.
I'm pretty disappointed that we didn't inbound to Jaevin at the end, but let's try to have a little bit of patience. We're not running a "mid-major" offense. Plenty of high-major and NBA teams run the same thing. We don't have to block shots to have an effective defense. The complaint against Cronin was always that he had a low ceiling despite his high floor. We have no idea what kind of ceiling to expect from Brannen, but we're sitting here arguing about how the floor has dropped after five games. Let's see what happens.
