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TheRealMick said:
Go big or go home. Pay to get Slick Rick
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He's f-in' 68 years old. He has past his prime and I don't think they want to take the risk of all his baggage after this coaching staff. Plus, his buyout at Iona makes it cost prohibitive - I read it's $10M. Not a chance in hell that happens.
 
Bearcat_Z said:
He's f-in' 68 years old. He has past his prime and I don't think they want to take the risk of all his baggage after this coaching staff. Plus, his buyout at Iona makes it cost prohibitive - I read it's $10M. Not a chance in hell that happens.
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The president 80. Iona made ncaa. We in middle of scandal for not letting parents pack their kids lunch
 
cincrulz11 said:
Yes. Thats why this is such a bad spot to be in. Give me a name and resume better than Brannen's when we hired him that is coming here and getting players out of the portal.


The names out there are not good. Casey Alexander is the guy I wanted instead of Brannen and he's a guy I'd want now. Other guys are just other brannens.


I don't want a Huggins assistant. That style is going away. The game is going to transition into what the nba is doing (what alabama is doing now). The players are getting good enough already. Every single nba team made the change because they were forced to, college will be the same. 110 teams shot 35% from 3 as a team. Imagine what thats going to be in 5 years, 10 years, and so on.
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I agree with you that the list of coaches being thrown out there isn't impressive. Ppl like to downplay a NVE saying young guys wouldn't know who he is but who the hell is going to knw who Bryce drew or Archie Miller is? The Huggins tree thing is funny too me why avoid a hall of Fame coaches tree? That's pretty stupid. I would love to get a hot no name coach but the reality is the game is watered down due to this moving forward, reliant on 3 style/perspective and the coaching is watered down...There are multiple ways to score in basketball and I hope we dont make another trend hire.
 
The University should have a pretty good idea already about who to potentially target. After experiencing Brannen and being around the situation closely, any AD worth their salt had to have an idea about who they may want to bring in here. I don't want any coaching retreads from other programs. Would prefer a patino hire, hell would love for Huggs to come back would be a national story, perfect PR. Realistically I want a former player to come in here at this point and really get to work in a passionate kind of way, like we knw they would and see how things play out. Now would be the time than any. The people at the top making these decisions for the basketball program seem to be lacking some passion and rational esp these Ads that take a job and move on i.e. Mike Bohn head... Cunningham has his work cut out for him more so than Brannen did when he got here, that of which puts even more emphasis on how much of a bad hire Brannen actually was, the program is in an even more dire state with him leaving
 
No matter who we take it's going to be a gamble, that's why I didn't want Mick to leave. He was the safe, reliable options. We gambled and Brannen turned out to be a dud. We have to hit on this hire or the program is in horrible shape for the future.

The good thing is that the next hire will have lower initial expectations than Brannen did and maybe that will help. Brannen was expected to maintain a high level product (with one or two down years at most). The new coach will probably be given until year 4/5 to turn things around.

I want a coach with local ties, not one who sees this as a stepping stone. Somebody who is committed here to the long term, who is willing to take 0.5-1 million/year less to coach at UC rather than go to a high-major. Basically Mick Cronin until things went sour. Who at worst has 1/2 dream schools that he will leave here to go coach at and at best this is his dream school.
 
I haven't seen many names with local ties thrown out. I'm not all that sold on Kimani Young, if we are going the young up and comer route, I'd take:

Dennis Gates from Cleveland State. He has a couple seasons as head coach, succeeded with transfers and JuCo guys and is a bit more local. His style of coaching has been compared to Kelvin Sampson (which might not make him a fan favorite).

John Jakus: Baylor assistant, before that was at Gonzaga. Was once a Cincinnati HS basketball coach and has coached internally quite a bit - good for recruiting. Also Baylor and Gonzaga are a bit higher level basketball programs than UConn. I'd take him over Young.

Erik Martin: I'm not really convinced by former players. But if we are going for one, might as well take one from UC.

Darris Nichols: Florida assistant, played under and then graduate assistant coached under Huggins at WVU. Started as an assistant coach at NKU. Part of the Huggins tree, but not one from UC.

Any other up and comers with local ties?
 
I'm not really into Archie, I won't hate him but he wouldn't be in my top 3.

He took over a successful Dayton program and took it to the next level. Then he went to a Indian program in the dumps and left it in the dumps. Unfortunately, our program is more in the dumps than in good shape. He hasn't proven he can rebuild. Stats wise, he looks like a worse Mick Cronin. Defense first, but not a defense as good as Cronin's was. He is probably also going to expect more money than a less known guy.

There is no obvious John Brannen like pick this time around. Porter Moser would be, but he's not coming here.

Scott Naggy is the easy option, but apparently he's not hugely popular as Wright State (I guess blowing a 24 point tournament lead will do that). Maybe he's a guy who just needs a change of scenery.

After that, it's guys like Dennis Gates, Ryan Pedon, John Jakus, Erik Martin, Darris Nichols or Kimani Young, with little or no head coaching experience. Of those guys I'd take Gates (2 years HC experience and HC success) or Jakus (a lot of international HC experience and assistant at Baylor/Gonzaga).

We had success with giving an assistant coach a shot in football. I'm willing to go that route for basketball.
 
We aren't going to get a homeurn hire. It's not going to happen. They will have to take a chance on someone. And it's very possible we end up in the same or worse spot.

I'd lean Archie as the most realistic option.

This is my point. None of these resumes are better than John. That's the reality. Cunningham is destroying everything.
 
A guy with local ties does not mean he will want to stay at UC for less money than a higher profile program. Especially if the local ties are as flimsy as that he currently coaches in Cleveland or once coached HS basketball in Cincinnati. There's no way I'd pass on a guy with a better pedrigree for local ties like that.
 
skyblade said:
I'm not really into Archie, I won't hate him but he wouldn't be in my top 3.

He took over a successful Dayton program and took it to the next level. Then he went to a Indian program in the dumps and left it in the dumps. Unfortunately, our program is more in the dumps than in good shape. He hasn't proven he can rebuild. Stats wise, he looks like a worse Mick Cronin. Defense first, but not a defense as good as Cronin's was. He is probably also going to expect more money than a less known guy.

There is no obvious John Brannen like pick this time around. Porter Moser would be, but he's not coming here.

Scott Naggy is the easy option, but apparently he's not hugely popular as Wright State (I guess blowing a 24 point tournament lead will do that). Maybe he's a guy who just needs a change of scenery.

After that, it's guys like Dennis Gates, Ryan Pedon, John Jakus, Erik Martin, Darris Nichols or Kimani Young, with little or no head coaching experience. Of those guys I'd take Gates (2 years HC experience and HC success) or Jakus (a lot of international HC experience and assistant at Baylor/Gonzaga).

We had success with giving an assistant coach a shot in football. I'm willing to go that route for basketball.
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Yea, Archie Miller would be a meh hire, but better than John Brannen I feel but its still less than Cronin. The John Jakus, kimani young, Darris Nichols, Dennis Gates that just have me like who are they? As a recruit why come to these guys?. I gotta say I'm leaning at least more of a combination of Erik Martin and NVE. Just as much basketball knowledge as those guys previously mentioned and I'm pretty sure just as ppl savvy/player savvy. Also the aspect of not bolting when possible and actually caring and having pride about the program. I believe john Brannen wasn't even a Bearcats fan.. The more conservative, typical choice is otherwise.. besides really going for it like say a Patino and or making a run at someone else with more weight in the game/pedigree. It's hard to believe the finances aren't good enough to make something like that happen
 
JoeRunner89 said:
Yea, Archie Miller would be a meh hire, but better than John Brannen I feel but its still less than Cronin. The John Jakus, kimani young, Darris Nichols, Dennis Gates that just have me like who are they? As a recruit why come to these guys?. I gotta say I'm leaning at least more of a combination of Erik Martin and NVE. Just as much basketball knowledge as those guys previously mentioned and I'm pretty sure just as ppl savvy/player savvy. Also the aspect of not bolting when possible and actually caring and having pride about the program. I believe john Brannen wasn't even a Bearcats fan.. The more conservative, typical choice is otherwise.. besides really going for it like say a Patino and or making a run at someone else with more weight in the game/pedigree. It's hard to believe the finances aren't good enough to make something like that happen
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What!? I’m shocked you’re leaning toward nve lol
 
Bcatfollower said:
What!? I’m shocked you’re leaning toward nve lol
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Lol, I can feel it I dont know its something in the air with a move like that it just feels right top to bottom. I'm not intrested in handing a not so spectacular retread from outside the program the keys. Why not be loyal to one of our a couple of our guys that helped build this program
 
Given the actions of the former players trashing guys for transferring, I'm not that fond of former players right now. It's a bad look and probably disqualifies them consideration if Cunningham is trying to convince transfers to come back. The former players should have waited until they actually knew the facts (which we still don't).

Erik Martin wasn't a part of it, but his association with former players is probably enough to keep our guys in the portal away. NVE isn't coming here, Chad has said multiple times, adamantly, that Pinto has no interest in NVE or Pitino. Not going to happen.

The only person media wise who has done a great job so far is Justin Williams with his reporting. Covered both sides, stayed unbiased.
 

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