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Brown on lack of respect for AAC "I'm glad we won the (AAC) tournament because they probably would have left us out."

Lol a nice quote from Larry Brown.
 
cincrulz11 said:
Man, for goodness sakes, it isn't about the pace. The point thing is tied to efficiency NOT pace.


I can bring up efficiency stats.

We are 18-0 in our top 18 offensive efficiency games. 19-2 in all games where our efficiency was greater than 1 point per possession.


We are 7-2 against the top 100 when reaching that efficiency (kenpom numbers).



We are 14-6 in our top 20 highest pace games. We are 4-5 against top 100 teams in those games.
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Perhaps there is a correlation between efficiency and pace. Are you able to tell, of the 21 games >1 ppp, how many were in the top 20 highest pace games?
 
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indydoug said:
Perhaps there is a correlation between efficiency and pace. Are you able to tell, of the 21 games >1 ppp, how many were in the top 20 highest pace games?
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To start people need to understand we NEVER played with any sort of high tempo. The most possessions we ever got in a game was 66 (in regulation). That is still pretty slow ball.


From an efficiency standpoint it's all over the place with pace. 9 of the 21 games we had 57 or fewer possessions. 7 of them we had 63 or more possessions.


To expand some of on that, of our 10 most efficient games, 5 had 63 or more possessions, 4 had 55 or less possessions, and 1 had 61 possessions.

We play slow and we force others to play slow. That's just how it is. Even if we get out in transition some it's still going to be a slow game because people can't get shots up against us.
 
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cincrulz11 said:
To start people need to understand we NEVER played with any sort of high tempo. The most possessions we ever got in a game was 66 (in regulation). That is still pretty slow ball.


From an efficiency standpoint it's all over the place with pace. 9 of the 21 games we had 57 or fewer possessions. 7 of them we had 63 or more possessions.


To expand some of on that, of our 10 most efficient games, 5 had 63 or more possessions, 4 had 55 or less possessions, and 1 had 61 possessions.

We play slow and we force others to play slow. That's just how it is. Even if we get out in transition some it's still going to be a slow game because people can't get shots up against us.
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Thanks for looking that up. I think the data supports your conclusion that UC's problem is in fact lack of efficiency rather than slow pace. Interesting to note that Kenpom approximates possesions per game as NCAA doesn't use that as an official stat but I assume he's pretty close.
 
This is a tweet from Coach Cronin: At practice. Lots of people wearing blue??? Should I throw up THE L?!

There's another tweet saying there are UK fans heckling UC during practice.
 
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I havent gotten to read all the responses so forgive me if this sounds a little ignorant of some of the statistics that have been presented. I think you can look at pace in different ways. UC will never be a fast paced team. Their defense simply wont allow them that. It's their bread and butter and they wont get away from it which will limit their possessions. Making it all the more important to be efficient on offense because of the limited opportunities. However to Jacobs' point. The last 5 games of the season when the opportunity presented itself to get out on the break UC ran with it. This got them higher percentage shots because the defense could not get set. It got them layups and wide open jump shots. Those things will absolutely help with you efficiency. When they can get on the break they should. If you arent efficient in the half court try to run and get easier baskets.
 
JackBauer151 said:
I havent gotten to read all the responses so forgive me if this sounds a little ignorant of some of the statistics that have been presented. I think you can look at pace in different ways. UC will never be a fast paced team. Their defense simply wont allow them that. It's their bread and butter and they wont get away from it which will limit their possessions. Making it all the more important to be efficient on offense because of the limited opportunities. However to Jacobs' point. The last 5 games of the season when the opportunity presented itself to get out on the break UC ran with it. This got them higher percentage shots because the defense could not get set. It got them layups and wide open jump shots. Those things will absolutely help with you efficiency. When they can get on the break they should. If you arent efficient in the half court try to run and get easier baskets.
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Exactly. The game isn't going to be blazing fast because UC plays a tough grind it out defense that will slow the game down. BUT, when UC gets a turnover, missed shot, or even made shot they can and should push the pace to try to create easier looks which you would expect would lead to a higher efficiency. Yes, there may be additional turnovers but frankly they seem to turn the ball over more in the half court then they do in transition.
 
I'd be very interested to see how many possessions per game we would see if we went 5+ straight games of nothing but man defense. I agree it will be hard for teams to get good looks against us no matter the defense we play, but playing man could boost the amount of TO we force and limit the number of offensive rebounds we allow. Anyone know how our turnovers forced per game stacks up to other years? And on the offensive rebounding thing, I swear UConn had easily 3 or 4 different trips where they had the ball for close to 2 minutes bc they kept getting long rebounds.
 
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JackBauer151 said:
The last 5 games of the season when the opportunity presented itself to get out on the break UC ran with it. This got them higher percentage shots because the defense could not get set. It got them layups and wide open jump shots. Those things will absolutely help with you efficiency. When they can get on the break they should. If you arent efficient in the half court try to run and get easier baskets.
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I think everybody has been in full agreement that when the opportunity to get out in transition pops up, this team should take it every time. There is no doubt that teams that struggle in the half court SHOULD try to get as many easy buckets as possible.


Outside of UCF though, most teams make it a point not to allow that to happen to them. UCF couldn't do a thing about it and we lit them up.


I think if the coaching staff sees an easy target to run in transition on, they are going to take their shots. It doesn't seem like they are willing to do much more than that for this season though.
 
jacobkdoyle said:
Anyone know how our turnovers forced per game stacks up to other years?
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Just looked it up, seems to be all over the place, only went back to 2010.

2010 - 297
2011 - 55
2012 - 99
2013 - 153
2014 - 12
2015 - 102


Thats for rank in defensive turnover %.
 
jacobkdoyle said:
And on the offensive rebounding thing, I swear UConn had easily 3 or 4 different trips where they had the ball for close to 2 minutes bc they kept getting long rebounds.
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Giving up offensive rebounds this year has been a killer, but believe it or not we gave up an even higher % of them last year (and have been pretty bad in general the past 5 years).
 
cincrulz11 said:
People are going to find things to hate about things they hate. People still think we are a bunch of thugs from those 90's teams. It's like the first thing that popped up when I peaked over at the Purdue boards.


I say F all of them. If people want to hate us without truly knowing us, who cares.
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People don't care if your thugs or not when your winning. Those same thugs played on primetime tv every other weekend.
 

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