Reds/MLB

[jacobkdoyle]

I think Shields, Tyson Ross and Andrew Cashner are all better than Leake

Cashner? Eh.

Are the Indians gonna trade Carrasco?

 

[coachpipe]

Are you sure about that?

yes

Ken Rosenthal of Fox Sports reported that it was the Mets who backed out of the deal, citing concerns about Gomez’ hip. In June, Gomez missed time due to a hip injury.

http://risingapple.com/2015/07/29/mets-trade-zack-wheeler-wilmer-flores-for-carlos-gomez/

 

[jacobkdoyle]

yes

Ken Rosenthal of Fox Sports reported that it was the Mets who backed out of the deal, citing concerns about Gomez’ hip. In June, Gomez missed time due to a hip injury.

http://risingapple.com/2015/07/29/mets-trade-zack-wheeler-wilmer-flores-for-carlos-gomez/

Interesting. I saw on Twitter today that the Mets might go for Cespedes now.

 

[Bulldog01]

I think Shields, Tyson Ross and Andrew Cashner are all better than Leake

I'll take leake. He also can hit and run

 

[Patrick Bateman]

Mets backed out because they didn't like Gomez bad hip.

Both sides have their own stories, Melvin can't comment on anything health wise due to HIPPAA regulations but it was stated that there was a health concern with Wheeler. The other story is that Boras leaked the trade before it was a done deal and he is saving face by saying that Gomez is not hurt. He has only missed one game since June.

 

[Bcats]

Who else is available? Leake, Price, Haren from the Marlins?

Price
Haren
Leake
Cashner
Shields
Ross
Gallardo
Simon
Plus 3 or 4 we don't even know about

 

[jacobkdoyle]

Price
Haren
Leake
Cashner
Shields
Ross
Gallardo
Simon
Plus 3 or 4 we don't even know about

I've read Iwakuma, Fiers and Carrasco maybe too.

 

[Bcats]

I've read Iwakuma, Fiers and Carrasco maybe too.

Samarajia

 

[jacobkdoyle]

@JeffPassan
Return for David Price was exact same as that for Johnny Cueto: three left-handed pitching prospects. One scout likes Cincy's trio better.

 

[Bulldog01]

@JeffPassan
Return for David Price was exact same as that for Johnny Cueto: three left-handed pitching prospects. One scout likes Cincy's trio better.

They got #15 prospect

 

[jacobkdoyle]

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2015/07/stark-crasnick-on-mariners-cubs-ross-padres-chapman.html

•Stark also tweets that the Reds are still discussing Aroldis Chapman with teams, but the price remains very high. At this time, the Yankees, Diamondbacks, Giants and Astros are all in the mix for Chapman, who is earning $8.05MM in 2015 and is controlled via the arbitration process for the 2016 season.

 

[jacobkdoyle]

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2015/07/reds-would-be-willing-to-swap-bruce-for-wheeler.html

Stack the pitching staff!

 

[Patrick Bateman]

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2015/07/reds-would-be-willing-to-swap-bruce-for-wheeler.html

Stack the pitching staff!

Bruce is cheap. They better get another piece other than an injured pitcher with a high walk rate.

If Bruce is traded, that is a signal that the reds are in full rebuilding mode. Might as well try to trade Frazier as well.

Walt needs to wake up, Houston gave up top three prospects for quote injured Carlos Gomez.

 

[jacobkdoyle]

Wow what a game for Phillips! Sell high!!!

 

[jacobkdoyle]

@JeffPassan
Only way the Mets trade Zack Wheeler today is in a Jay Bruce deal, which is still alive and well. Won't deal him for a rental corner OF.

 

[jacobkdoyle]

Thoughts on the Leake trade?

Seems to me that the Reds are doing a good job of rebuilding the pitching staff.

 

[bearcat8290]

I would have kept Mike Leake. He's a great athlete. He's goes out there every 5th day and for the most part gives the Reds quality innings. He's an excellent bunter, runs well and fields his position as good as anyone. Not to mention a great hitting pitcher and a very competitive attitude. I think on the free agent market, the Reds would get out bid. Leake was bent on trying that market. The Reds may have lost him at that point. My point is that I would have tried to sign him prior to free agency. 70-80 million for five years would be acceptable.

 

[Patrick Bateman]

I would have kept Mike Leake. He's a great athlete. He's goes out there every 5th day and for the most part gives the Reds quality innings. He's an excellent bunter, runs well and fields his position as good as anyone. Not to mention a great hitting pitcher and a very competitive attitude. I think on the free agent market, the Reds would get out bid. Leake was bent on trying that market. The Reds may have lost him at that point. My point is that I would have tried to sign him prior to free agency. 70-80 million for five years would be acceptable.

Leake is in a walk year so WJ may have given a QO that he may have taken but he would have been expensive to pay for a league average pitcher if he was extended an offer. He is replaceable with the guys that were traded for and the guys in the minors.

 

[Patrick Bateman]

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/aroldi...er--according-to-police-report-023629095.html

 

[WAITE HOYT 2]

Pitchers and catchers reported today. Will be interesting to see all the young pitchers competing for spots in the rotation