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Big East Presidents ask commissioner to resign....

Two reasons:

A) Want someone to negotiate big TV deal and didnt think John was cutting it

B) More teams have left or decided not to join
 
I think the BE split will happen soon now.

Its clear that this marriage between bball only schools and football schools is not working
 
User Name: said:
I think the BE split will happen soon now.

Its clear that this marriage between bball only schools and football schools is not working
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I'm not so sure one thing has to do with the other. This is about money and the BCS. The presidents of the universities aren't convinced Marinatto can land them the big money deal they covet. I think the real question to ask was if this was the current presidents pushing for this or the new presidents? Or maybe both?
 
Let me clarify my comment about the divide between football and basketball members. I get the rift there and how it has hurt the Big East. My only point was that I don't know if a new commissioner means a split between the two factions. It might but I don't think that is inevitable. In fact, I still think it is unlikely.
 
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I think that is exactly what it means.

Where would UC go? ACC is the only thing that make sense but I dont think they are looking and I doubt they would go west.
 
This is getting interesting because there aren't enough football schools in the eastern half of the US to make a good league and still have enough (good) basketball playing members. They need to figure the revenue stuff out because the Big East should stay together as a basketball conference. It is too much fun to watch from a fan's perspective.
 
Thegreatone said:
I think that is exactly what it means.

Where would UC go? ACC is the only thing that make sense but I dont think they are looking and I doubt they would go west.
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I think Williams is using the Missouri playbook from last year.

When the Big 12 was floundering, the Missouri President stepped up to help the conference out and keep it together. Then Missouri of course bailed to the SEC.

I think UC is trying to leverage a deal with the Big 12(Just My opinion based on ZERO evidence) but if that falls through then they still look like they are trying to keep the Big East intact. Pretty much a win win either way (Unless of course the Big East falls apart and UC is left out of the Big 12)
 
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I think Williams is using the Missouri playbook from last year.

When the Big 12 was floundering, the Missouri President stepped up to help the conference out and keep it together. Then Missouri of course bailed to the SEC.

I think UC is trying to leverage a deal with the Big 12(Just My opinion based on ZERO evidence) but if that falls through then they still look like they are trying to keep the Big East intact. Pretty much a win win either way (Unless of course the Big East falls apart and UC is left out of the Big 12)
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My opinion is the opposite, Williams firmly believes that the Big East is the best conference for UC. The New York exposure is great for UC.

The basketball schools will have a very hard time going anywhere. Each would have to pay the Big East $10 million to leave the Conference and they would be giving up MSG for the Big East basketball tournament. Also basketball only conferences do not generate the TV revenue that the current Big East will generate when the new Big East TV deal is signed. It is estimated each basketball school will get about $6 million each from the new TV deal, they will not get that if they leave the Big East to form a basketball only conference.
 
ralph1950 said:
My opinion is the opposite, Williams firmly believes that the Big East is the best conference for UC. The New York exposure is great for UC.

The basketball schools will have a very hard time going anywhere. Each would have to pay the Big East $10 million to leave the Conference and they would be giving up MSG for the Big East basketball tournament. Also basketball only conferences do not generate the TV revenue that the current Big East will generate when the new Big East TV deal is signed. It is estimated each basketball school will get about $6 million each from the new TV deal, they will not get that if they leave the Big East to form a basketball only conference.
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That's a great point. Financially, it would be stupid for the bball schools to leave.

I just don't understand how this league can co-exist when the bball schools have the voting power.

http://espn.go.com/blog/bigeast/post/_/id/32570/where-did-john-marinatto-go-wrong

"One of the biggest stumbling points has been how the television money would be divided among the basketball and football schools. Last year, at the spring meetings in Ponte Vedra Beach, Fla., one proposal suggested a 75/25 split -- 75 percent of the money going to football schools, and 25 percent going to basketball schools. One athletic director at a basketball school raised his hand and wondered why the numbers were not flipped, since hoops is the reason the Big East exists in the first place. "

How can this league continue to function with this kind of logic of AD's from basketball schools
 
"How can this league continue to function with this kind of logic of AD's from basketball schools"

The football schools have more votes than the basketball schools in the new Big East.
 
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Why do you say that? The Big 12 now has a 2.6 billion dollar deal with ESPN and Louisville is gone if/when they are invited.

That could be the catalyst for a lot of changes
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The Big 12 just renegotiated their deal, they are happy with 10 teams for now. The football schools need the basketball schools for the Big East name and brand, while the basketball schools needs the football schools for AQ status to the NCAA tournament. This overreaction to the firing of a guy everyone wanted fired is hilarious. Everyone is throwing stuff up against the wall hoping it sticks....
 
Eternal E said:
The Big 12 just renegotiated their deal, they are happy with 10 teams for now. The football schools need the basketball schools for the Big East name and brand, while the basketball schools needs the football schools for AQ status to the NCAA tournament. This overreaction to the firing of a guy everyone wanted fired is hilarious. Everyone is throwing stuff up against the wall hoping it sticks....
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In my opinion the basketball schools need the football schools a lot more than the football schools need the basketball schools. However, they both need one another. The Big East brand is too huge for either the football or basketball schools to walk away from financially.
 
Why do the football schools even need the basketball schools at this point??

They are delusional in meetings/requests and really offer nothing in terms of revenue compared to the football schools.

Seriously, why do UL/UC/Rutgers/UConn and the rest need Depaul/Seton Hall/St Johns/GTown/Nova/Marquette etc?

The revenue is in football not bball. Conference re-alignment is all about football
 

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