St. Johns coach fired

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NEW YORK (AP) — Norm Roberts was fired Friday as the basketball coach of St. John's after six seasons — only two of them with a winning record.
Athletic director Chris Monasch announced the dismissal two days after the Red Storm lost to Memphis in the first round of the NIT to complete a 17-16 season. The Red Storm were 6-12 in the Big East this season — 13th in the 16-team conference.

"Coach Roberts took over a very challenging situation and has advanced our program in many respects," Monasch said in a statement. "We appreciate the class and integrity he exhibited in his six years at St. John's."

Roberts was a longtime assistant to Bill Self at Oral Roberts, Tulsa, Illinois and Kansas. He joined a St. John's team coming off a 6-21 season under Mike Jarvis and interim coach Kevin Clark (FSY).

This was the second coaching firing in the Big East in two days, following Bobby Gonzalez's ouster at Seton Hall on Wednesday.

Roberts was 81-101 at St. John's. Including four years at Division II Queens College, he has a 105-185 coaching record.

"My wife and I appreciate the great opportunity to have coached at St. John's. ... Having grown up in Queens, I never could have imagined being afforded the opportunity to coach at one of the most prestigious basketball programs in the country," Roberts said in a statement. " I do believe the program is in a much stronger position than when I arrived."

The Red Storm will return all five starters and 94% of the scoring from last season's team.

http://content.usatoday.net/dist/custom/gci/InsidePage.aspx?cId=cincinnati&sParam=37915318.story

 

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Steve Lavin and St. John’s AD Chris Monasch will meet Monday in what could be a prelude to the former UCLA coach becoming the next head coach at St. John’s.

“He will interview at some point Monday,” a source with knowledge said.

“Both sides are really excited.”

If the meeting goes well, Lavin could be named the successor to Norm Roberts, who was fired last week after six seasons.

“If there was a candidate that really came in and was incredibly impressive, I
think you can declare that you’ve found your new coach,” the source said.

http://www.zagsblog.com/

 

[ready2go]

HAHAHHAHA!

I believe a former member of the forum. Won't name names (TheFranchise) mentioned this man as a possible candidate. Now I'm not saying he is going to be the answer for anyone, but he obviously must still have the mojo if St. Johns is looking at him.

 

[adrock]

Yeah, St. John's is pretty awesome.

 

[BearcatAlum1]

Not interested in Lavin.

Lord of the d-bags.

 

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I hope this doesn't mean more Digger Phelps in studio...

Raftery is bad enough.

 

[ready2go]

"You can't help but wonder what happened to the once-prominent powerhouse. As it stands now. St. John's is still fifth in all-time wins (1,689) in college basketball history. The only problem is if they are to hold onto the spot, they will have to turn things around really fast."

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/56977-will-st-johns-ever-be-a-college-basketball-powerhouse-again

If we aren't carefull Adrock this could become us. You could make an argument St. Johns was one of the top programs in the country.

Oh and they must be pretty sweet! They beat us

 

[adrock]

If we aren't carefull Adrock this could become us. You could make an argument St. Johns was one of the top programs in the country.

Very valid point, and it is something I fear. Though your contention that Lavin is a good coach because a Big East bottom dweller that has hired 2 bad coaches in a row has now hired him is devoid of logic.

If he succeeds, the point will be made. But as of now I would not be using St. John's actions as a diagram for UC. In fact, based on their recent "success," I would think we would want to do the exact opposite of everything St. John's is doing.

 

[ready2go]

HAHAHHAHA!

I believe a former member of the forum. Won't name names (TheFranchise) mentioned this man as a possible candidate. Now I'm not saying he is going to be the answer for anyone, but he obviously must still have the mojo if St. Johns is looking at him.

As you can see above, I never said he would be a good coach. But for a Big East school to even look at him says a lot about what kind of coach he could be.

Not here to start the Lavin debate again. Just simply stating he must be worth something if a Big East school is giving him a shot.

 

[ralph1950]

As you can see above, I never said he would be a good coach. But for a Big East school to even look at him says a lot about what kind of coach he could be.

Not here to start the Lavin debate again. Just simply stating he must be worth something if a Big East school is giving him a shot.

Looks like a desparation move to me after getting turned down by the Georgia Tech guy.

How is DePaul doing in their search for a "name" coach?

 

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DePaul is a cautionary tale about how not to run down a great program. Passing the torch to Joey, and alienating Chicago HS programs probably not the right thing to do.
St Johns should do much better than DePaul, although I would think they could find someone better than Lavin, not to slight him (even though I think he's likely to have recruiting 'issue's up there).

 

[adrock]

Not here to start the Lavin debate again. Just simply stating he must be worth something if a Big East school is giving him a shot.

And I'm simply stating that Lavin being looked at by St. John's -- a school that is failing miserably in spite of having a great tradition and residing in the richest basketball recruiting area in the nation -- does not at all show that he's "worth something." In fact, if their coaching choices over the past decade or so are any indication, it shows the exact opposite.

 

[ready2go]

And I'm simply stating that Lavin being looked at by St. John's -- a school that is failing miserably in spite of having a great tradition and residing in the richest basketball recruiting area in the nation -- does not at all show that he's "worth something." In fact, if their coaching choices over the past decade or so are any indication, it shows the exact opposite.

We're about halfway down that road!

 

[adrock]

And I'm simply stating that Lavin being looked at by St. John's -- a school that is failing miserably in spite of having a great tradition and residing in the richest basketball recruiting area in the nation -- does not at all show that he's "worth something." In fact, if their coaching choices over the past decade or so are any indication, it shows the exact opposite.

We're about halfway down that road!

History may prove you to be correct, but enough with the misdirection. Do you concede that the fact that St. John's is looking at Lavin does not prove that he's a good coach (see: Mike Jarvis, Kevin Clark, and Norm Roberts)?

Sorry guys, I just can't pass up a good debate whether it's relevant to the OP or not.

 

[ready2go]

History may prove you to be correct, but enough with the misdirection. Do you concede that the fact that St. John's is looking at Lavin does not prove that he's a good coach (see: Mike Jarvis, Kevin Clark, and Norm Roberts)?

Sorry guys, I just can't pass up a good debate whether it's relevant to the OP or not.

We'll find out when he gets the job.

 

[adrock]

We'll find out when he gets the job.

I'm glad we agree. I could go for that drink now.

 

[ucgrad94]

History may prove you to be correct, but enough with the misdirection. Do you concede that the fact that St. John's is looking at Lavin does not prove that he's a good coach (see: Mike Jarvis, Kevin Clark, and Norm Roberts)?

Sorry guys, I just can't pass up a good debate whether it's relevant to the OP or not.

You may think that Lavin is a horrible coach or may think hes good, but either way, how can you say St. Johns only hires terrible coaches.

You try to make an argument saying bad coaches go to St. Johns, and you bring up Mike Jarvis?

He is one of only four Division I coaches to post 100 or more victories with three different teams.

In 5 years at St. Johns he led the Red Storm to 3 NCAA Tournament appearances including an Elite 8 appearance, and also an NIT championship in his last full year there. He had four 20+ win seasons.

He was fired 6 games into his final season, but not becaues of win/loss record.

"Mike Jarvis was fired by St. John's amid allegations that one of his players assaulted a female student, and another was banned from the team after a second marijuana-related arrest."

"It was the off-the-court problems involving his team that led to his downfall."

-New York Daily News

So don't go on about how St. Johns only brings in horrible coaches if your gonna say Mike Jarvis is an example.

 

[ready2go]

I'm glad we agree. I could go for that drink now.

You certaintly can't say it makes him a bad coach either!

Need a few days off of drinking

 

[adrock]

You may think that Lavin is a horrible coach or may think hes good, but either way, how can you say St. Johns only hires terrible coaches.

You try to make an argument saying bad coaches go to St. Johns, and you bring up Mike Jarvis?

He is one of only four Division I coaches to post 100 or more victories with three different teams.

In 5 years at St. Johns he led the Red Storm to 3 NCAA Tournament appearances including an Elite 8 appearance, and also an NIT championship in his last full year there. He had four 20+ win seasons.

He was fired 6 games into his final season, but not becaues of win/loss record.

"Mike Jarvis was fired by St. John's amid allegations that one of his players assaulted a female student, and another was banned from the team after a second marijuana-related arrest."

"It was the off-the-court problems involving his team that led to his downfall."

-New York Daily News

So don't go on about how St. Johns only brings in horrible coaches if your gonna say Mike Jarvis is an example.

Good call. I'll admit I was only aware of the circumstances of his firing and made a judgment based on that. I amend my statement of St. John's poor coaching choices to the last 2 hired (Kevin Clark and Norm Roberts) instead of the last 3. Point still stands.

 

[adrock]

You certaintly can't say it makes him a bad coach either!

That was not my intent. I was only hoping to show that no judgment can be made on him yet.

Need a few days off of drinking

What's wrong with you?