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I hate to see Jermaine lose time. However, I think he'll be back for the Louisville game. I've said all year Strickland would have been huge if he had been available for UC. Even if all he did was rebound and play defense.
 
I hate to see Jermaine lose time. However, I think he'll be back for the Louisville game. I've said all year Strickland would have been huge if he had been available for UC. Even if all he did was rebound and play defense.

I don't think UC fans realize how small this team is without Lawrence. There were times tonight where the line up was Rubles, Sanders, Thomas, Kilpatrick and Caupain. That is a front line of 6' 7'' and 6' 5''.
 
I don't think UC fans realize how small this team is without Lawrence. There were times tonight where the line up was Rubles, Sanders, Thomas, Kilpatrick and Caupain. That is a front line of 6' 7'' and 6' 5''.

We really missed Lawrence tonight. I can only hope he gets 100% healthy soon because we need him.
 
No disrespect, but IMO Lawrence babies himself. He sat out all but 3 games of last year because of a bad hand. I do not expect him to play another game this season as turf toe is very painful and the only cure is lots of rest.
 
No disrespect, but IMO Lawrence babies himself. He sat out all but 3 games of last year because of a bad hand. I do not expect him to play another game this season as turf toe is very painful and the only cure is lots of rest.

I remember him saying one of the reasons he chose UC was to make him tougher.
 
No disrespect, but IMO Lawrence babies himself. He sat out all but 3 games of last year because of a bad hand. I do not expect him to play another game this season as turf toe is very painful and the only cure is lots of rest.
hey Ralph unless you have the medical records to back up your comments you are once again making a rear end out of yourself.
 
Whether he is soft or not, I don't think UC would let him sit out longer than he needs to. They'll push him along cautiously and rehab him safely, but they will get him ready as soon as medically possible in my opinion. In other words, I don't think they'll let Lawrence determine his rehab even though I doubt that would be an issue.
 
No disrespect, but IMO Lawrence babies himself. He sat out all but 3 games of last year because of a bad hand. I do not expect him to play another game this season as turf toe is very painful and the only cure is lots of rest.

By the way, a broken wrist is a major issue for a basketball player. Wrists are very important.

As for turf toe, it is a ligament issue and there are many different grades. There have been football players miss an entire season because their turf toe was really bad. Turf toe is not just about pain tolerance. There is a possibility for it to be re-injured or made worse by playing through it.

From WebMD:
"The basic treatment for treating turf toe, initiailly, is a combination of rest, ice, compression, and elevation (remember the acronym R.I.C.E).This basic treatment approach is to give the injury ample time to heal, which means the foot will need to be rested and the joint protected from further injury. The doctor may recommend an over-the-counter oral medication such as ibuprofen to control pain and reduce inflammation. To rest the toe, the doctor may tape or strap it to the toe next to it to relieve the stress on it. Another way to protect the joint is to immobilize the foot in a cast or special walking boot that keeps it from moving. The doctor may also ask you to use crutches so that no weight is placed on the injured joint. In severe cases, an orthopaedic surgeon may suggest a surgical intervention.

It typically takes two to three weeks for the pain to subside. After the immobilization of the joint ends, some patients require physical therapy in order to re-establish range of motion, strength, and conditioning of the injured toe."

So based on this, he still probably has a week or two until the pain subsides (end of January). Then, he will probably have to rehab the injury to gain strength back. That could take several weeks as well. They are not going to rush him back from this and turf toe is obviously not something you can just play through if your pain tolerance is high enough.
 
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By the way, a broken wrist is a major issue for a basketball player. Wrists are very important.

As for turf toe, it is a ligament issue and there are many different grades. There have been football players miss an entire season because their turf toe was really bad. Turf toe is not just about pain tolerance. There is a possibility for it to be re-injured or made worse by playing through it.

From WebMD:
"The basic treatment for treating turf toe, initiailly, is a combination of rest, ice, compression, and elevation (remember the acronym R.I.C.E).This basic treatment approach is to give the injury ample time to heal, which means the foot will need to be rested and the joint protected from further injury. The doctor may recommend an over-the-counter oral medication such as ibuprofen to control pain and reduce inflammation. To rest the toe, the doctor may tape or strap it to the toe next to it to relieve the stress on it. Another way to protect the joint is to immobilize the foot in a cast or special walking boot that keeps it from moving. The doctor may also ask you to use crutches so that no weight is placed on the injured joint. In severe cases, an orthopaedic surgeon may suggest a surgical intervention.

It typically takes two to three weeks for the pain to subside. After the immobilization of the joint ends, some patients require physical therapy in order to re-establish range of motion, strength, and conditioning of the injured toe."

So based on this, he still probably has a week or two until the pain subsides (end of January). Then, he will probably have to rehab the injury to gain strength back. That could take several weeks as well. They are not going to rush him back from this and turf toe is obviously not something you can just play through if your pain tolerance is high enough.

Thanks for dropping that knowledge on us. I am not a big fan of the discussion right now which is insinuating that JL has had injury issues for a couple of years that this is what we should expect. Give the kid the benefit of the doubt and let's see how it plays out.

When you dunk as hard as JL did in the NM game you should expect at minimum a VERY sore wrist:) In the same light turf toe isn't going to happen if you are loafing. I don't want a loafer on this team and after watching him this year so far I would not put him in the loafer category whatsoever.
 
Thanks for dropping that knowledge on us. I am not a big fan of the discussion right now which is insinuating that JL has had injury issues for a couple of years that this is what we should expect. Give the kid the benefit of the doubt and let's see how it plays out.

When you dunk as hard as JL did in the NM game you should expect at minimum a VERY sore wrist:) In the same light turf toe isn't going to happen if you are loafing. I don't want a loafer on this team and after watching him this year so far I would not put him in the loafer category whatsoever.
On one of Cronin's interviews, or his show, he specifically said he will not bring him back too soon because JL has a career ahead of him , and Cronin didn't want to jeopardize it. There is no reason to risk permanent or prolonged injury just to get a few W's. He'll play when he plays.
Go Cats!
 
Just my opinion, but if we don't see Lawrence back by February (so it would be about a month since the injury), then I don't think he'll be back this year. I don't know how effective he will be if he returns with like 3 or 4 games left so I doubt Mick would risk him reinjuring it. Turf toe is the type of injury that can plague him his whole career...
 
Just my opinion, but if we don't see Lawrence back by February (so it would be about a month since the injury), then I don't think he'll be back this year. I don't know how effective he will be if he returns with like 3 or 4 games left.

Think you said it earlier, Louisville game or bust for Lawrence, and even that is pretty late (2/22?). Edit: I think you meant the 1/30 U of L game at the Yum! Center, correct?
 
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Think you said it earlier, Louisville game or bust for Lawrence, and even that is pretty late (2/22?). Edit: I think you meant the 1/30 U of L game at the Yum! Center, correct?

Yeah, I said I think that is the first game that UC will "need" him badly. I would love to see him back by then but not holding my breath.
 
Yeah, I said I think that is the first game that UC will "need" him badly. I would love to see him back by then but not holding my breath.

Problem with turf toe, from what I have found out by talking to a few people who have had it, is that it is pretty easy to aggravate. Definitely don't want to test it, but then again, I think we need Lawrence, it will be a tough call.
 
Just curious, isn't this the same injury Kyrie Irving had a couple of years ago. Im pretty sure he was out about 20+ games, most of the season.

Kyrie Irving was in a hard cast... Jermaine is not, correct?

I did a quick Google search but all I could find on the Kyrie Irving injury is that it was a "severe ligament injury."
 
You can't really comare player's turf toe injuries to each others. It only effects some for a week or two, but some can miss an entire season and still not fully recover. The degree in how different they can be makes it impossible for us to really sit here and guess when he'll be back.
 
No disrespect, but IMO Lawrence babies himself. He sat out all but 3 games of last year because of a bad hand. I do not expect him to play another game this season as turf toe is very painful and the only cure is lots of rest.

Ralph because he is a member of the current team and not a recruit I didn't delete this. It was opinion based on a poorly assessed past history.

A wrist injury affects every phase of every basketball skill. A top 25 recruit with a wrist injury "might" want to let it heal knowing he's heading into his first year in college and not run the risk of worsening the injury.

It is poor taste to attack the character of an 18 yr. old kid especially one who has an injury that sidelines some of the best athletes in the world for extended periods of time.

Mick said Jermaine had a career and he wouldn't allow him to come back till he and the medical staff could prove to him JL was pain free. We should all be so concerned about the young man.
 
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